Help BMW Bring Diesel Power to the USA!

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In case you didn't know, Car and Driver teamed up with BMW to campaign a few BMW 330d models at this year's Thunderhill 25-hour endurance race. Although I have yet to hear of the results, I would expect C/D to have a strong showing, given the outpouring of support by BMW for doing so.

...Anyway...

Would you like to see BMW bring diesel power to the United States? The good news is that BMW is listening, and they have teamed up with C/D yet again to run some numbers and listen to the public. They [BMW] have set-up a survey that you can take, listed here, to help them make a better selection.

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Me? I'm all for it!

Although I'm uncertain if I would ever be able to afford a BMW diesel car within the next 10 years (we're talking off the lot here), bringing more companies to the diesel table will help improve the situation here in America. IMO, diesel power is the way to go when it comes to increasing fuel efficiency without sacrificing all of the "fun" a car can be... Case in point, the 330d.

If BMW does it, that means that Ford may do it, and that could mean that everyone else will eventually get into it. Diesel power should be the future, and with BMW on-board, I can guarantee that the changes will happen quickly as compared to just having VAG, DCX, and GM on-board.
 
I agree. In fact, I'm taking a speech class this semester, and soon I'll be doing a persuasive speech assignment -- my topic? "Why Diesel Cars Are Better Than Hybrids."

Now that we're finally getting low-sulfur Diesel fuel, there's no reason why Diesel cars shouldn't take off. Sure, they aren't as nice to the air as hybrids are, but they get even better mileage, can fit sporty applications as easily as "ordinary" or work-related applications, and specialize in one thing that many americans desire with illogical zeal -- torque.

I've heard nothing but good things about BMW Diesel cars, so I hope they decide to join the others in popularizing Rudolf's babies on this side of the pond.
 
I love number 4.

"4. What is your perception of diesel fuel availability in the U.S.?
O - Yes
O - No"
 
Having been exposed to "new" diesels for the past two years or so, and test-driving (both short and long distance) and flogging a whole bunch of them... most of you already know my answer... hell, yes!

I'm hoping that market expansion will help bring down global costs per unit for new diesels, especially if the Big 2.5 are encouraged to spend on diesel development.

Because that's the only problem. CRDi turbodiesels cost more than equivalent gasoline plants... and while it doesn't take long to recoup that initial investment (maybe two or three years at current prices), it's limiting market penetration for CRDi turbodiesels outside of their key markets (namely Europe and Japan).
 
Yes! That is one more step forward towards "Awesome Town!"

If BMW does it, you know everyone will be jumping in. Its only a matter of time before we get this Hybrid crap off the road, convince people that it is really quite stupid, and drive cars the way they are meant to be driven.
 
I don't see myself buying a diesel, BMW or otherwise, unless I plan on towing or hauling a lot of stuff.

Nothing against diesels in general, and competition/variation is always good, I just don't think I would like owning one.
 
It will defiently arrive once they have made use of the bluetec technology courtesy of mercedes. Diesels are phenomenal. You can hardly even tell if a diesel engined car these days if its a audi/mb/bmw. Our fords and vauxhalls arent quite as yet so refined but they are getting there.
 
It'll be neat...I noticed, though, that instead of General Motors, (with their big pickups) they only had "Cadillac." Are they aware of the giant-torque Pickup diesels out there?
 
Actualy... it sounds like a good idea to me. however, traditional gasoline engines must hang around in some capacity. i think you would be hard pressed to sell people a diesel powered performance car like a corvette or a ferrari. i cant see myself getting too worked up over an F430 with a 4000 rpm redline. but for everyday cars that only exist for A to B, diesel power is perfect. lots of power down in the lower rev range where most engines spend their lives anyway. i can just see it now, cars marketed by torque instead of horsepower. only two kinds of gas, Diesel and 98 octane. yeah, i think it would be cool to see diesel and gasoline engines do a flip flop, with diesels going in everything except the most performance minded of machines.
 
It will defiently arrive once they have made use of the bluetec technology courtesy of mercedes.

BMW backed out of the BlueTec deal with Mercedes, so it has been left pretty much just to the DCX companies and VAG. Too bad, but BMW thought they could do better independent of the others. Good idea I guess, as it spurs innovation...

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I don't see myself buying a diesel, BMW or otherwise, unless I plan on towing or hauling a lot of stuff.

I think there are a lot of people in the same situation. My father for some reason is pretty anti-diesel, so he thinks that I'm crazy when I go on and on about how much better they are in some cases. If gas prices get high again, I'd bet that diesel power comes into the forefront once more. The problem is, not many people are very well educated about diesel power (and I won't say that I am), as many people still remember the early Rabbit diesels of the 1980s (thats not a good thing).

Jim
It'll be neat...I noticed, though, that instead of General Motors, (with their big pickups) they only had "Cadillac." Are they aware of the giant-torque Pickup diesels out there?

GM is getting into the diesel program too and is developing a new engine to go along with the current Duramax lineup. Most of them are pretty much going to be modified versions of those found in the current line of Opel/Vauxhal cars from Europe, but there is a new V6 and V8 in the works that I believe was designed in America... Not just for the trucks, but for the new sedans and crossovers as well.

inferno
i think you would be hard pressed to sell people a diesel powered performance car like a corvette or a ferrari.

...I've got Audi on the line. They want to sell us an R8 with a V12 TDI engine...

inferno
yeah, i think it would be cool to see diesel and gasoline engines do a flip flop, with diesels going in everything except the most performance minded of machines.

I don't know if things will flip-flop that quickly here in America, but I can see more of the new models being sold with diesel power in the near future. Gas prices are going to decide a lot of things, and so will the pricing of the cars. If the automakers can sell us Malibus, Accords, or 3-series models that offer similar performance, better fuel economy, at a negligible price increase, they should have winners...
 
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