Help with new car bhp

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I've noticed that on a couple (I'm sure it's happened more than once) of the new cars I've bought the bhp seems a bit less than the stated bhp in the car details.

For example, last time this happened was when I'd purchased a new Enzo from the dealership to complete the Ferrari seasonal. I'm not sure I'm 100% accurate with the figures but they illustrate the point - the Enzo says it has 680bhp, yet when I buy it and check it seems that mine has 672bhp - a few less bhp than stated. And this is before I have done any mods at all, just bought the car and had a look at the specs in my garage.

I'm not sure what the exact bhp is but my example should give you an idea of what I'm on about. Is there an reason for this? Does it only happen with premium cars - as I'm aware some you get from the UCD need new oil etc. It's a small point in the scheme of things but it annoys me enough to make me look for an answer. Sorry if this has been posted before but I don't have the time at the minute to look through. Any help would be most welcome.

And hi to all the people on the forum :)
 
Try and oil change.
 
Oil change on a brand new car? I'm sure I've tried this and it says that it's not available or something - ie doesn't need it.

Could be wrong though, I'll have a look later as I'm not near ps3 at the minute.
 
It's a brand new engine, you need to break it in by driving it. I think you need about 200 miles on it to get full horsepower.
 
Mudd
It's a brand new engine, you need to break it in by driving it. I think you need about 200 miles on it to get full horsepower.
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So that's what it is then - you need to put a few miles on the clock first. Does the bhp increase all at once, or does it increase by 1/2/3 bhp at a time as the miles go up?
 
Bear Ziffa
I've noticed that on a couple (I'm sure it's happened more than once) of the new cars I've bought the bhp seems a bit less than the stated bhp in the car details.
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That's why I put together the car list you can find stuck to the top of this forum, which contains actual, garage power, torque and weight stats.

Advertised power isn't always the same as garage power. In fact it's quite often different - not always lower either.
 
Bear Ziffa
So that's what it is then - you need to put a few miles on the clock first. Does the bhp increase all at once, or does it increase by 1/2/3 bhp at a time as the miles go up?
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It will go up 1 at a time depending on how many miles you put on it in one race. Remember that miles do not accumulate during online 'free run mode' or if tire wear is set to off. Any actual racing will break it in. If i remember correct, the last time I payed attention to the milage it took about 215 miles for full power. And don't forget to change the oil at that point . There is also the differences that Famine mentioned, but I think you are just seeing the break-in HP difference.
 
Thanks for the replies people. I'll have a look at the list that was mentioned, sounds handy.
 
Bear Ziffa
Oil change on a brand new car? I'm sure I've tried this and it says that it's not available or something - ie doesn't need it.

Could be wrong though, I'll have a look later as I'm not near ps3 at the minute.
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Wrong.

When you do by a car from the NCD GT Auto will give you the option to do it and if you do it you will gain about 10-15 horsepower from it even if the car has no miles on it. 👍
 
Crazed_Coupe
Wrong.

When you do by a car from the NCD GT Auto will give you the option to do it and if you do it you will gain about 10-15 horsepower from it even if the car has no miles on it. 👍
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OK maybe I am wrong, calm down dear.

It's not about me being wrong or right - read the thread - I'm asking for help and opinions. I never claimed to be RIGHT !!

But I'll take your word for it as I can't check at the min. I was under the impression that a brand new premium car didn't need the oil changing - seeing as it's brand new and all. But eh, realism can be overrated I suppose.
 
Bear Ziffa
OK maybe I am wrong, calm down dear.

It's not about me being wrong or right - read the thread - I'm asking for help and opinions. I never claimed to be RIGHT !!

But I'll take your word for it as I can't check at the min. I was under the impression that a brand new premium car didn't need the oil changing - seeing as it's brand new and all. But eh, realism can be overrated I suppose.
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:lol:

I think you're the one who needs to calm down, I was just trying to help you out. 👎
 
The answer was to the point, although it was quite bluntly delivered. Let's keep it all friendly.
He is absolutely correct though. A new car will still benefit from an immediate oil change. In addition, the bloke who posted earlier about needing to run an engine in before you get full performance out of it. To give you an idea of how much this can be worth. A standard FGT has 863hp when it's fresh out of its crate. An oil change bumps it up to 907. Fully run in, I've seen 930+. That is a huge power boost in a car like that. The enhancements obviously won't be as significant on cheaper cars though.
Peace and love to all.
Except when we meet on the track.
 
big_davey_b
The answer was to the point, although it was quite bluntly delivered. Let's keep it all friendly.
He is absolutely correct though. A new car will still benefit from an immediate oil change. In addition, the bloke who posted earlier about needing to run an engine in before you get full performance out of it. To give you an idea of how much this can be worth. A standard FGT has 863hp when it's fresh out of its crate. An oil change bumps it up to 907. Fully run in, I've seen 930+. That is a huge power boost in a car like that. The enhancements obviously won't be as significant on cheaper cars though.
Peace and love to all.
Except when we meet on the track.
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So it can be worth up to 30hp running a car in? Does every car need the same amount of mileage to run them in? Thats more bhp extra than I imagined - never thought about running the car in so much. And does the running in thing apply to every car?
Thanks if you can help.
 
Bear Ziffa
So it can be worth up to 30hp running a car in? Does every car need the same amount of mileage to run them in? Thats more bhp extra than I imagined - never thought about running the car in so much. And does the running in thing apply to every car?
Thanks if you can help.
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It can be even more than 30HP. I think NASCAR's gain around 50HP.

It applies to every 0 mile car. I think some cars take longer than others to fully break-in though.
 
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