hidden dangers of online play

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i think online play for the ps2 will be pretty cool. the first games to support online play will be Navy Socom (looks cool), final fantasy XI (these games take to long, i dont play em much), and others. the potential advantages of online play are great. besides online racing for GT4, you could download new tracks, cars, etc. Or for a game like Madden NFL, you could download updated rosters.

however, no one is really paying attention to the potential dangers of online play. the initial cost of online play wont be too bad. i have no problem shelling out 50 bucks for a new game, and probably 50 bucks for the hard drive & network stuff. the problem is, all of these games will require you to pay a monthly subscription. and im pretty sure you are not paying a subscription directly to sony to play all your games. rather, you will be paying multiple monthly fees for each game you have.

in addition, they probably wont just let u download every new track, car, and update. you will probably have to pay for each of these new cars and tracks (gt4) or updated rosters & stadiums (madden), etc.

am i the only one who thinks they are gonna be hitting us where it hurts (wallet). yes, games will be more interactive, but the price will be exponentially greater.
 
I think a huge issue is that of how much control they give to PS2 owners over downloaded files and networking issues. If possible, you can bet I'll be running a free GTPlanet server for online play, and (if possible), we'll have an upload area where members can buy one car or track, and then upload it to the site. Then, I'll offer the cars and tracks here for free. But, it all depends on how the PS2's software is set up. The Linux PS2 kit could change all of that, though...
 
No matter what, downloads of Tracks, Cars and whatnot will be free somewhere. Kazaa, Morphoues and some websites will probably have most d/l's for games for free.
 
yah, u are right. u could definately find cars and tracks for free somewhere. the online racing part of it might be a little tricky. as long as there are places that host games for free, i would be happy.

i started this thread after i read a little about one of the first online play games. Squaresoft, the company that makes final fantasy xi is planning on having a monthly subscription. no subscription=no play.
 
I dunno about the u.s. and how phone lines operate there but in the uk sony are working and more or less testing there online conections with phone companies such as bt and telewest and when the ability to go online comes you should be able to pay for broadband under a monthly fee same way as the computer allowing free internet access this is especialy easy for people woh already have bt or telewest phone lines already you can just ring up your company and ask for broadband and pay the monthly fee
 
ive heard that not only will you need to pay a monthly fee for broadband access, but you will have to pay monthly fees for each game u want to play.

the price in ps2 games has just dropped 10 bucks, and the system dropped by 100 bucks. i think they plan on getting the ps2 and games into as many homes as possible (for little profit) and then charging for online play (and make their profit there).
 
Hell no Saleen. The only cost is the $40 for the network adapter, I dont know where you heard all that BS from...
 
Originally posted by MistaX
Hell no Saleen. The only cost is the $40 for the network adapter, I dont know where you heard all that BS from...
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ill try to find an exact link, for everyone, but im pretty sure i read it on gamespot.com or ps2.ign.com

squaresoft has something called "playonline.com". i heard they sunk millions into developing it for online play, and they plan on getting their money back (and profit) through subscriptions.

anyways, ill dig up that article.
 
ok..here is a quote from the article.

The development of Final Fantasy XI and the PlayOnline network service that power's Square's upcoming PlayStation 2 online RPG cost between 2 and 3 billion yen ($16-24 million), Square president Yoichi Wada confirmed today in an interview with the Mainichi Shimbun. It will take four to five years to determine the success or failure of the venture, he said, since the business plan behind the game relies on long-term profits from monthly fees.

see?, told ya. here is a link to the whole article.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/359/359081p1.html
 
One game. Just like Everquest and Motor City Online.

Woo? Big Deal FFXI is gonna be pay-monthly
 
They aint gonna make all games like that.
 
I've sworn that if it is online only and the monthly fee exceeds 15-20$, I'm not going for it.
 
Source: http://ps2.ign.com/articles/366/366021p1.html

6. How much will all this cost?


There will be no fee to access PS2 online gaming in general. Games like SOCOM, Madden, NFL2K3, and many others will be free, save for the cost of your Internet access. That will naturally vary according to what kind of deal you can strike with your service provider. Some games may charge a monthly fee, particularly online RPGs like Final Fantasy XI and Everquest, but no exact figures have been confirmed.

good. just like we all thought. all u have to pay for is the network adaptor and your broadband connection. there will be a few games that u have to pay a monthly fee for, but i dont like any of em anyways.

the hard drive is in the making, which shows promise for lots of car and track downloads for GT4. also, roster updates for Madden. you can follow the trend with other games u like.
 
Jordan will alwasy be there for everyone with GT Series Media!

Three cheers 4 Jordan!
 
Think of it this way 💡 If they do rip us off, few people will bother..They'll get a fair income on a Minority paying high expenses, right?

But they'll get an even higher income if the Cost is Low as more people will sign up for longer :thumbsup:

Hopefully the way Sony and Others involved will be thinking is: Low Cost = High International Demand :earth: = Big Profits :2cents:

What you think? :D
 
i would pay money to use the broadband service but wouldnt pay to download new cars, rosters, tracks, patches etc. i believe u should be entitled to free upgrades and not additional fees inc the price of the game
 
apparently, it will be no cost (except for the modem and game) for playing online. there will only be a small minority of games that charge monthly fees. first ones are supposed to be FFXI and everquest, both of which i have no desire to play.
 
Sony will make money off selling the hardware so there's no need to charge any more :2cents:

Naturally we'll still have to pay broadband charges to the ISP..:computer:
 
im gonna have broadband at college. it will be such a let down to come home to 56k. and i dont think i will have the money to spring for it at home.
 
A little birdie told me that the "game net" will be just like the internet. If it is cool, you will have to pay for it, and most of the free stuff will be choked with ads. However, the Houston Chronicle occasionaly runs small articles about various games and platforms. I think that the paper is where I saw a chart that compared the new platforms (wretch-box , game(cell shaded)cube , and PlayStation 2), on the playstation 2 the source listed 'buy the card for $40 (american) and play for free.' I think that means, buy the hardware, pay off your phone company, pay off your ISP, and then search for pay-to-play sites through a sony server.
This is the only time you will hear me say this: GOD BLESS THE HACKERS. once it is online, and you can plug a hard drive in, and program it through the LINUX; the hackers of the world will have realtime battles running better, faster, cleaner than the companies who build the machines. CASE in point: Over the thanksgiving (2001) weekend, a group of college students hacked the X-Box. X-Box was built with information security, and intellectual property rights, and copyright security in mind, remember; These students created their own network. They linked their Wretch-Boxes together and played against each other. Recall that at Thanksgiving, most Americans were still on a waiting list for the Wretch-Box .
To make my essay shorter, I should have typed: 'the hardware manufacturers will provide the infrastructure for the software developers to create pay sites that the hackers will outdo.'
now this is only theory; but copy this post, burn it on CD and read it in 5 years...
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nah. i think they will make their money off the initial hardware purchase (network adaptor, and Hard drive in the future). they will also make their money on the purchase of the game. i doubt there will be monthly charges to play online (except for your ISP).

there will be a few games that charge monthly fees, such as FFXI and everquest (both of which i have to desire to play).

you may see ads, but i dont expect to see monthly fees become the norm. no one would pay for that, which means no one would buy the hardware, and no one would buy the game itself.
 
On this subject I dont know if you guys are getting the right message. What they mean to buy tracks, cars, parts etc. is that you buy these things with the credits from GT4 if they happen to do this. SO i hope this clears some things up if you dont all ready now this. And i think that this is right, if not, plz someone prove me wrong. :D :D :D
 
Originally posted by gt3stuntman01
On this subject I dont know if you guys are getting the right message. What they mean to buy tracks, cars, parts etc. is that you buy these things with the credits from GT4 if they happen to do this. SO i hope this clears some things up if you dont all ready now this. And i think that this is right, if not, plz someone prove me wrong. :D :D :D
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yup, ive wrote that pleanty of times in this and other threads.
 
what we are talking about is monthly fees they charge to play the game. FF XI and everquest will charge monthly fees to play. i dont believe other games will, but some disagree.
 
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