Honda 3Q profit doubles

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Honda Fit Hybrid --> Honda Cash Cow.
 
I don't know how Honda makes money. If the rest of their seats are anything like the driver's seat in my mom's Accord then they're miserable places to sit. It's actually painful. The lumbar support, all the way down, feels like the Undertaker is breaking my back over his knee. It's officially the worst chair I've sat in in my life.

Also, the dashboard design of her 2013 model is god awful. And then engine, that K24, has no torque down low and the VTEC is just completely the wrong personality for a mundane family sedan. My 1991 RX7 has a more family-friendly powerband. And the automatic transmission? Don't even get me started on the automatic. In terms of smoothness, I'd rather have a GM 3-speed from the 60s. Every time the Honda shifts my head goes flying forward because it stops accelerating, unlike pretty much every other automatic I've ever driven. And half the time if I slightly roll through a stop sign and I get back on the power, it doesn't even start accelerating til I'm halfway through the intersection like it can't make sense of what I'm telling it.

It's just a miserable car, it really is. The only family-sedan related target that it actually hits is that it's got room for people and stuff.

Now, I've been in a couple CRVs and Odysseys from the last 5 or so years and they're not half bad. An older CRV in particular was mighty clever, but that was the last of the B20-powered CRVs so it was still related to the 90s and 2000s Hondas which were all rather nice and packaged throughtfully. The Odyssey wasn't too bad but it didn't strike me as a genius design like older Hondas always do. The fact that these two cars weren't half bad makes me wonder how they ruined the Accord so thoroughly in 2013.
 
Honda is still on the sharp end when it comes to interior packaging. The Fit is getting old, but nothing else in its class is quite as clever when it comes to that fold-down rear seat.

If you're talking about shift-shock, then that's the older five-speed auto? Strangely, it works/worked perfectly fine with the V6, though the ratios were way too long, and in the CR-V it's just about perfect.

The new Accord has a nicer interior than before, and the 6-speed packaged with the V6 is a fine transmission. Haven't tried the CVT, yet.


The big issue, really, is the quality of the seats on some models. The CR-V (front seats only, rear bench on the previous model sucked hijjus) and Fit are okay, and the new Civic is fine in the ones I've driven, but the FD Civic had some of the worst lumbar support on the planet (and by worst, I mean anvil in the small of your back bad) and the stowaway seats in the Odyssey are supremely uncomfortable to sleep in if you have to recline them due to the fold-flat pivot.

Still.. aside from issues with the automatic on some cars, Hondas represent good engineering, and buyers love that. Synthetic oil change intervals on mineral oil? Engines that (with exceptions) last forever? Yes, please. ;)
 
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