Honda Preludes

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I am only 13 years old but have a great fascination for cars. Mostly because i'm influenced by my brothers. But anyway, I always had this fascination for Honda Preludes. I always thought of getting one as my first car. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about them or even has one. If so, do you like them?And if you can, could you write a little review about them? Thanks alot.:D
 
Preludes look good. That's about it, they're underpowered and overweight. There's not many after-market parts for the Prelude and it would be hard to get more power out of the Prelude's 2.2L VTEC without a major investment.
 
Which generation are you looking at? Any 'lude made before 1992 I wouldn't suggest, mainly because they are overly complex, and as a result they are quite pricey to fix should things get wrong. That is true mostly for the 3rd generation (88-91), because the 1st and 2nd gen cars are way too old to be considered today, so that's why I won't bother with them. These 3rd gen cars had 4 wheel steering. Basically, the rear wheels could turn 1.5 degrees in the direction the front wheels did under normal driving, but once the steering turned 245 degrees or more, the rear wheels would turn up to 5.3 degrees in the opposite direction. But it was really complicated, and didn't work most of the time.

The Preludes you want to look for are the ones made after 1992, and up to 2001, basically the 4th and 5th gen ones. I myself have a 5th gen, although it's technically not mine anymore (but that's a long story). The 4th gen (1992-1996) came with a few engine choices (a 2.2l, 135hp SOHC engine, which was the base model, a 2.3l, 160hp DOHC engine which was available in the Si and VTEC (yes, that's what the model was called) versions, and the bad boy, the 2.2l H22A, rated at 195 hp, which was in the SR-V.) The 5th gen had only one engine, the 195hp H22A, which got bumped to 200 in 1999. Stay away from automatics, which were rated at 190 hp, but actually made closer to 165 hp. Don't let the Tiptronic like buttons impress you, it's not all that cool.

The Type-SH had the Active Torque Transfer System (ATTS) which is supposed to neutralize understeer in corners, by sending power to the outside wheel. A bit like a limited slip diff, but more complex, and weightier. It was supposed to make the car handle better, but it didn't. The base model Prelude was faster around the corners, and in a straight line, which made the pricey SH a bit of a dud. It's rarer, obviously.

The interior was the weak point on the 4th gen. To say it was horrid would be a compliment. It was odd and uncomfortable. Nothing to say on the 5th gen's interior, it wasn't bland, but it wasn't stellar either. The styling really is the best part on the 5th gen. Simply, I think it's the best looking coupe to ever come out of Japan. A tad biased, but still. :lol:

Think of it this way, the Prelude was Honda's development mule. Honda developped most of its technologies on it... double wishbone suspensions, twin cam engines, 4 wheel steering, ATTS, etc. In fact, the only system they didn't develop on the 'Lude was VTEC... and that came from the NSX.

You're young, you've got a few years before you can buy your first car. I'm sure the early 4th gen cars will be a bit more affordable by then.


Edit: Wow, 5th post in this thread, and it's the first one with actual content. :rolleyes:
 
Well, excuse me Punk. Not everyone worships Honda. 'VTEC' is noting more than an acronym to me, that's my opinion.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
Well, excuse me Punk. Not everyone worships Honda. 'VTEC' is noting more than an acronym to me, that's my opinion.

Have you driven one? Probably not. Your whole post is filled with B.S.

They're not overweight, in fact the top of the range 5th gen. model didn't tip 3100lbs, 3042lbs to be exact, the base model weighing in at 2954lbs. In comparison, a Mustang GT weighs in at 3600lbs, a Pontiac GTO is at 3800lbs, and the Neon SRT-4 weighs over 3200lbs. Overweight? I think not. It looks bigger than it really is.

They're not underpowered, either. It was sold alongside cars like the Nissan 240SX (165hp), the Dodge Avenger (155 hp), the Eagle Talon/Mitsu Eclipse (which were rated at around 205hp, and they were turbocharged), the Celica, the MX6, etc...

Not many aftermarket parts? It's no Civic, but that doesn't mean parts are hard to come by. And I'm not talking about ricer crap, either. You can get just about everything, from coilovers to turbochargers/superchargers. A lot of work? Well of course. You don't have to swap in a totally different engine to make some power, unlike a certain rwd coupe that's getting popular these days.

But hey, I was expecting a bunch of random, meaningless crap from uninformed teenagers, since GTPlanet is filled with that. There are about 20 people here that are actually old enough to own a car...
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Overweight? I think not. It looks bigger than it really is.

They're not underpowered, either. It was sold alongside cars like the Nissan 240SX (165hp), the Dodge Avenger (155 hp), the Eagle Talon/Mitsu Eclipse (which were rated at around 205hp, and they were turbocharged), the Celica, the MX6, etc...


2998lbs is the average between the base model and the Type SH. It's a lot lighter than the Mustang, GTO, SRT-4, etc., but as you say - it's not meant to compete with them.

So have a look - your competitor list includes the 1995-1998 Nissan 240SX (2753lbs; 245lbs lighter), the 1995-2000 Dodge Avenger (2879lbs; 119lbs lighter), the 1995-1998 Eagle Talon (2789lbs; 209lbs lighter), the 1995-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse coupe(2767lbs; 231lbs lighter), the 1994-1999 Toyota Celica coupe (2395lbs; 603lbs lighter), and the 1993-1997 Mazda MX-6 (2625lbs; 373lbs lighter). In fact, by your list of competitors, it was the heaviest car (or should I say boat) in its class.

Don't worry though, I still love it, despite its major obesity problem.
 
Originally posted by M5Power


2998lbs is the average between the base model and the Type SH. It's a lot lighter than the Mustang, GTO, SRT-4, etc., but as you say - it's not meant to compete with them.

So have a look - your competitor list includes the 1995-1998 Nissan 240SX (2753lbs; 245lbs lighter), the 1995-2000 Dodge Avenger (2879lbs; 119lbs lighter), the 1995-1998 Eagle Talon (2789lbs; 209lbs lighter), the 1995-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse coupe(2767lbs; 231lbs lighter), the 1994-1999 Toyota Celica coupe (2395lbs; 603lbs lighter), and the 1993-1997 Mazda MX-6 (2625lbs; 373lbs lighter). In fact, by your list of competitors, it was the heaviest car (or should I say boat) in its class.

Don't worry though, I still love it, despite its major obesity problem. [/B]

Keep in mind the Celica and the Eclipse were designed to go against cars the size of an Integra, not the Prelude. I included them because I couldn't think of any car aside a Mustang, a Camaro or an Avenger that was about the size of a Prelude. Other long shots could be the 3 series coupe, the Acura CL and the Lexus SC300, although I think the latter was much bigger. Might be fat by your standards, but I don't think it's all that bad.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Have you driven one? Probably not. Your whole post is filled with B.S.

No I haven't and what I've seen from this thread, I don't want to.

They're not overweight, in fact the top of the range 5th gen. model didn't tip 3100lbs, 3042lbs to be exact, the base model weighing in at 2954lbs. In comparison, a Mustang GT weighs in at 3600lbs, a Pontiac GTO is at 3800lbs, and the Neon SRT-4 weighs over 3200lbs. Overweight? I think not. It looks bigger than it really is.

For the record, I have driven a Mustang GT. If SpeedKrazy wants a Prelude, he'll most likely won't be racing against 4 ton GTOs, but faster, more nimble cars.

They're not underpowered, either. It was sold alongside cars like the Nissan 240SX (165hp), the Dodge Avenger (155 hp), the Eagle Talon/Mitsu Eclipse (which were rated at around 205hp, and they were turbocharged), the Celica, the MX6, etc...

For the record, I have driven a turbocharged Talon. If the Prelude is any where near the Talon's performance, it's in big trouble.

I might not be a Honda junkie and know everything about Hondas, but I do know from personal experience. There are better cars out there in the same class than the Prelude.
 
I don't have any experience with the Preludes, but I think you should probably at least consider a Civic Si hatch of some kind, or maybe a CRX Si. They're fun, and probably easier to afford than a Prelude. If you're like me the biggest consideration when buying your first car will be price :)

edit: I should note that I also don't think 3100lbs is all that heavy, although I've always thought of the Prelude as being a big GT type of coupe.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
There are better cars out there in the same class than the Prelude.

I never said it was the best car in it's class. Don't put words I never said in my posts. I said it was one of the best, but not the best. In fact, you were the one who said it was total crap, without even knowing what it was like to drive, much less knowing what were its specs.
 
A good friend of mine still has his 5th gen Prelude. Great car and I really liked driving it. Good steering, shifter, brakes .. really neutral for a FWD'ver. Could use more power, but then it might spoil how balanced the car is. I think the look has finally grown on me and that electric blue color they have is awesome on it.

It'd be a great first car for someone.


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0-60 and 1/4 times for Preludes


1983 Honda Prelude 9.7 17.2
1984 Honda Prelude 9.7 17.2
1988 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 4ws 9.3 16.8
1988 Honda Prelude Si 4WS 9.1 17.1
1992 Honda Prelude Si 4WS 7.8 15.9
1994 Honda Prelude VTEC 7.2 15.1
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.7 15.1
1997 Honda Prelude Type-SH 6.7 15.3
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Keep in mind the Celica and the Eclipse were designed to go against cars the size of an Integra, not the Prelude. I included them because I couldn't think of any car aside a Mustang, a Camaro or an Avenger that was about the size of a Prelude. Other long shots could be the 3 series coupe, the Acura CL and the Lexus SC300, although I think the latter was much bigger. Might be fat by your standards, but I don't think it's all that bad.

Neither do I - and in fact, of the cars you named, the Prelude could out-accelerate most of them. We all know the Avenger V6 coupe is the slowest coupe ever (ever! I've never seen one magazine article about it that didn't mention engine performance as a weak point) and the Celica's engines were always weak. Prelude could certainly out-handle them.

1992-1998 3-series coupe was about 2866lbs and about the same length; 1997-1999 2.2CL was 55lbs heavier but 13" longer, and 1992-2000 SC300 was 550lbs heavier but also too long, coming in 14" longer.

Best spot-on competitor is the probably 240SX, though they only overlapped in two years, 1997 and 1998. The length difference was just 0.8", and though the 240SX was 200lbs lighter, the Prelude had 40 more horsepower, meaning a better power-to-weight.
 
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I like the Type R wing on this one.

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Skyline tail lights look nice on this one.
 
The prelude is one of the only hondas I actually like. They look pretty good and they got some pretty good power. Aftermarket on them is pretty weak though as far as power goes. And every one puts that damn Black Widow kit on em.
 
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