Honest Opinions about RM cars READ OP

[Reddee]

I think we should have an rm vs standard comp just to see which cars come out on top. I think this would be fun.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Sorry double post ops wrong button.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Testing out the contact patch of a car in a striaght line is gt5 will give different results... sideways are all the same tyre characteristics.

You can't compare a race-modded car to a D1 car. First off the D1 car is a replica of the real car which has certain limitations because of the D1 rules. Not the same rules as racing. So, in a sense, a D1 car in GT5 isn't "Race Modded". It has a body kit but it's purpose isn't the same. A spoiler helps stability but you would never see front spoilers like time attack or touge cars like the Amemiya or GT1.

Also I did try that out. That's why on those two cars made four of them to try out all differences between them. And i had found that. Which did surprise me. But honestly bro. If you are not at least willing to try what i said again. Please just don't bother replying. Not trying to sound rude you are a friend of mine so I will just say until you try it don't vote against it for the wrong reasons.

I think we should have an rm vs standard comp just to see which cars come out on top. I think this would be fun.

Honestly I think it would be close. Honestly.

Testing out the contact patch of a car in a striaght line is gt5 will give different results... sideways are all the same tyre characteristics.

You can't compare a race-modded car to a D1 car. First off the D1 car is a replica of the real car which has certain limitations because of the D1 rules. Not the same rules as racing. So, in a sense, a D1 car in GT5 isn't "Race Modded". It has a body kit but it's purpose isn't the same. A spoiler helps stability but you would never see front spoilers like time attack or touge cars like the Amemiya or GT1.

Also I did try that out. That's why on those two cars made four of them to try out all differences between them. And i had found that. Which did surprise me. But honestly bro. If you are not at least willing to try what i said again. Please just don't bother replying. Not trying to sound rude you are a friend of mine so I will just say until you try it don't vote against it for the wrong reasons.

And keep in mind that I was comparing the D1 Blitz to the RM (mainly as in Silvia RM/1969 comaro Z28 RM/1970 Challenger RM) at that time. Reason a bone stock car go race modify them they have the same characteristics inside them (basically it is done for the same principle) which is the same.

Those now three that i have tested are no different than their none RM versions in a advantage form.

I think we should have an rm vs standard comp just to see which cars come out on top. I think this would be fun.

Honestly I think it would be close. Honestly.

D1 cars: go sideways fast

race cars: go fast sideways.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCGnkApnDU">YouTube Link</a>

Just wanted to mention, race cars are normally going too fast to regain control, unless it's Jason Plato in a front-wheel drive car. But, drifters intentionally slow down a long time before the corner, to avoid going too fast to regain control.

It's not always the cars, sometimes it actually is the drivers.

Drifters aren't trying to go quickly. They don't care about going 140 km/h through Paddock Hill Bend. In fact, drifters most likely wouldn't even end up doing a competition run through PHB. So, you're essentially comparing apples to oranges.

And, before thinking that I'm weird for mentioning Jason Plato's "moment," consider that Jason Plato's Chevrolet has (essentially) the same figures (horsepower, weight and downforce) as the Integra RM.

Imagine trying to drift the Integra RM; it wouldn't work. The Integra RM normally tends to go straight, and when someone bumps it, it recovers from the skid quickly. It doesn't stay sideways; it doesn't drift. It's a touring car, basically.

However, the Silvia RM is a much more multipurpose car. I can drift it on comfort hards, just as well as I can race it with sports tires or above. That still comes down to a difference in driving styles.

Yep.


But yeah the Silvia is one of those cars that doesn't have a TRUE specified class in GT5. It really could be anything like you said. Honestly I have found it at times slower than its none RM version.



Anyway i would enjoy if maybe someone would car to tandem with me. Match up the same tunes identically. None RM and RM models. And see the difference. I honestly believe that there is nothing that will show drastically. Like a long time ago when these things were frowned upon.

Maybe you might help me Drift Monkey or Deedub? I mean in a lounge and not open lobby and just give them a shot. And see what happens.

 

[Bluntified]

I'm not oppose to the idea, I just don't like the way RM cars feel while drifting, a bit lifeless in my opinion.

I just used the Camero RM in the latest drift trial, for money, and it didn't appeal to me.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I'm not oppose to the idea, I just don't like the way RM cars feel while drifting, a bit lifeless in my opinion.

I just used the Camero RM in the latest drift trial, for money, and it didn't appeal to me.

Yeah far as the lifeless thing. It feels as if the chassis reinforcement has been done and when you actually apply it to them nothing is different. Explains a lot actually

 

[Robbyelder]

just an FYI for everyone reading this thread. Tyre tread Doesn't change a car's grip level in the game. When you racemod a car, the tyre tread isn't the reason for added grip. FACT.

And in my opinion. Anything with the word "RACE" in the name is for RACING! In most real world competitions you can't even put a ballast all the way in the back because they're trying to get fair grip levels between cars. Why should we destroy the culture by taking racing cars and battling with them.

This is the reason we cannot ever open are minds to new things or try out new things in our community! Because of comments like this if your into drifting like they do IRL then stay on those threads. But if your open minded and don't have a problem talking about doing differant things like drivetrains or FR vs MR. Or even RM vs non RM then this is where you go to these type threads. So please keep your comments to yourself if you are not open minded to new ideas thank you.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

This is the reason we cannot ever open are minds to new things or try out new things in our community! Because of comments like this if your into drifting like they do IRL then stay on those threads. But if your open minded and don't have a problem talking about doing differant things like drivetrains or FR vs MR. Or even RM vs non RM then this is where you go to these type threads. So please keep your comments to yourself if you are not open minded to new ideas thank you.

Well correct me if I'm wrong isn't this a simulator? We should not try to change the culture. Being open minded has nothing to do with it.

 

[Robbyelder]

Well correct me if I'm wrong isn't this a simulator? We should not try to change the culture. Being open minded has nothing to do with it.

Correct me if I'm wrong IRL you cant use certain things in comps but that doesn't mean you cant drift them or drift with them on mountain passes just because the big shots or the avarage jo's don't use them dosn't give you the right and the other haters on this site a reason to tell us what we can and cant do because thats what they don't use IRL.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a video game!!

Drift monkey I respect you as a drifter but you need to open your mind to other opinions and quit being one sided to what they do IRL.

Much respect but if we wanna drift MR's or high power cars or RM's let us do are thang man live free drift free be free.

 

[Lock2Lock]

This is the reason we cannot ever open are minds to new things or try out new things in our community! Because of comments like this if your into drifting like they do IRL then stay on those threads. But if your open minded and don't have a problem talking about doing differant things like drivetrains or FR vs MR. Or even RM vs non RM then this is where you go to these type threads. So please keep your comments to yourself if you are not open minded to new ideas thank you.

Well it is his Opinion. Which I do respect his opinion. I understand what he is saying but i do too have a few disagreements with it but I do agree with most of what he is saying.

Well correct me if I'm wrong isn't this a simulator? We should not try to change the culture. Being open minded has nothing to do with it.

I understand what you are getting at. And yeah it is a simulator. What I am getting at won't change the culture though (at least in my opinion i don't think it would)

But do you understand what I am getting at with all of this? Just for a few forget about the fact that it says "Race modified" because far as GT5 concerned they do not have a specified class of what they are for (as in class I mean like GT300/GT500/LMP or PRO/PRO-AM).

Get what i mean bro?

Correct me if I'm wrong IRL you cant use certain things in comps but that doesn't mean you cant drift them or drift with them on mountain passes just because the big shots or the avarage jo's don't use them dosn't give you the right and the other haters on this site a reason to tell us what we can and cant do because thats what they don't use IRL.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a video game!!

Drift monkey I respect you as a drifter but you need to open your mind to other opinions and quit being one sided to what they do IRL.

Much respect but if we wanna drift MR's or high power cars or RM's let us do are thang man live free drift free be free.

Come on bro. Let's all keep this reasonable. If this starts getting into one of these arguments like on some other threads i will simply close it. I have a low tolerance for bickering. Not saying you are meaning to just saying IF it does. Let's all keep it civil and reasonable

 

[Natalia90]

what is the best Non-RM or RM for old cars? I am currently using 69 camaro and challenger 70 with RM.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

There is no "best" in drifting. That's the point. Everyone can pick a car that they like, that matches their driving, and just have their fun.

 

[Lock2Lock]

what is the best Non-RM or RM for old cars? I am currently using 69 camaro and challenger 70 with RM.

If you have the custom rims and tires on the RM it is no different than the non-RM in feel

 

[Drift_Monkey]

Correct me if I'm wrong IRL you cant use certain things in comps but that doesn't mean you cant drift them or drift with them on mountain passes just because the big shots or the avarage jo's don't use them dosn't give you the right and the other haters on this site a reason to tell us what we can and cant do because thats what they don't use IRL.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a video game!!

Drift monkey I respect you as a drifter but you need to open your mind to other opinions and quit being one sided to what they do IRL.

Much respect but if we wanna drift MR's or high power cars or RM's let us do are thang man live free drift free be free.

I commend you for your wording. Very mature response and quite possibly the most mature response I have ever seen on this forum.

PS: sorry for the off topic

 

[Lock2Lock]

Hey DM never answered my question in my last couple posts. Be honest with me though is it the fact that that mod is too much of a problem? Or what.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

Hey DM never answered my question in my last couple posts. Be honest with me though is it the fact that that mod is too much of a problem? Or what.

If your concern is that they're not in a class then same goes for GT1 and Amemiya and any other pre tuned time attack car. There isn't a class for time attack either. But it sounds like you're looking for a loophole in the GT5 class categories. It is a race mod so it has the body of a race car but still has the drivetrain of a street legal car. And in drifting we should all know that power means nothing. All about aero dynamics, weight, etc.

 

[Lock2Lock]

If your concern is that they're not in a class then same goes for GT1 and Amemiya and any other pre tuned time attack car. There isn't a class for time attack either. But it sounds like you're looking for a loophole in the GT5 class categories. It is a race mod so it has the body of a race car but still has the drivetrain of a street legal car. And in drifting we should all know that power means nothing. All about aero dynamics, weight, etc.

Not trying to find a loophole bro. I am being honest.

Yep which yeah we all know that (at least the smart ones hahaha) but yeah that's what I was trying to see. If the aerodynamics are as great of a advantage as me and you know they were before the 6 months plus of updates to GT5. You get what I mean?

But anyway i highly doubt talking with a lot of our fellow drifters out there. A lot of them surprisingly to which I was amazed do not have a problem with them in comps and in general.

But as far as them being allowed in comps probably will go as far as comfort softs and those above it being allowed hahaha. But anyway. I will leave this open for a few days if anyone should have a reply. If not I will close it.

Appreciate all who posted their opinions to this topic and ones who I talked to in drift lobbies who talked to me about their opinions. I will the next time I see the guy who wanted me to test these cars out tell him all of this.

 

[TwistyDrift]

The Honda Civic RM isn't that bad it's actually a good grippy car.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

Not trying to find a loophole bro. I am being honest.

Yep which yeah we all know that (at least the smart ones hahaha) but yeah that's what I was trying to see. If the aerodynamics are as great of a advantage as me and you know they were before the 6 months plus of updates to GT5. You get what I mean?

But anyway i highly doubt talking with a lot of our fellow drifters out there. A lot of them surprisingly to which I was amazed do not have a problem with them in comps and in general.

But as far as them being allowed in comps probably will go as far as comfort softs and those above it being allowed hahaha. But anyway. I will leave this open for a few days if anyone should have a reply. If not I will close it.

Appreciate all who posted their opinions to this topic and ones who I talked to in drift lobbies who talked to me about their opinions. I will the next time I see the guy who wanted me to test these cars out tell him all of this.

I can see why they don't have much of a problem with it because what also makes those pre tuned race or time attack cars faster is the suspension. And with Racemods you still have to do your own suspension set up.

 

[Lock2Lock]

The Honda Civic RM isn't that bad it's actually a good grippy car.

Talking about drifting haha

 

[TwistyDrift]

Talking about drifting haha

Well you kind of can drift a FF car. Go at full speed, Yank the e-brake, feather the gas (Just a little) and feather the e-brake. Doesn't look right when your drifting a FF car but works at some corners

 

[JR86]

Well you kind of can drift a FF car. Go at full speed, Yank the e-brake, feather the gas (Just a little) and feather the e-brake. Doesn't look right when your drifting a FF car but works at some corners

If you pu RS tyres on front, CH tyres on rear and give the rear tyres +10 camber you can drift an FF without handbrake. Only downside is that it is EXTREMELY hard to control. To increase angle yo let off gas and to stop spinning out you give it more. It's very confusing but I was able to (almost) link the entirety of my Kart Drift track in a Yaris

 

[miko1337]

If you pu RS tyres on front, CH tyres on rear and give the rear tyres +10 camber you can drift an FF without handbrake. Only downside is that it is EXTREMELY hard to control. To increase angle yo let off gas and to stop spinning out you give it more. It's very confusing but I was able to (almost) link the entirety of my Kart Drift track in a Yaris

Dude sick I will try that out. unlike (some) people on these forums I am open to all drivetrains in drifting.

On topic, I tried out the stock rims/tires to see if it actually increases grip, it indeed does.

EDIT: Kiwi man this is insane. Bought an Integra, slammed it, put RS on the front, it pulls such sick angle. Won't be a tandem car or anything but for style it's pretty awesome. So hard to control though >_<

 

[eddyac]

The MX5 TC drifts pretty well 👍

 

[Lock2Lock]

On topic, I tried out the stock rims/tires to see if it actually increases grip, it indeed does.

You do mean stock rums/tires on those two RM cars right?

 

[miko1337]

You do mean stock rums/tires on those two RM cars right?

Yes sir. Sorry sir, won't happen again sir. *salute*

 

[Lock2Lock]

Yes sir. Sorry sir, won't happen again sir. *salute*

Thanks for confirming this. I thought just maybe just maybe I might have been losing my mind

 

[miko1337]

I didn't notice it as much on the 'muro as I did on the 'llenger, but there was for sure something different from any other normal car.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I didn't notice it as much on the 'muro as I did on the 'llenger, but there was for sure something different from any other normal car.

Yeah true.