How do any of you get through a SINGLE Daily Race

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I’ve been away from the game for several months but decided to fire it back up. I am primarily an off-line racer, exclusively with PC2. But, sometimes you need something different so I re-downloaded GTS and got used to it again. Then I decided to try the daily race because I love Bathurst.

I qualified 11th on a grid of 16, I believe. My reward for passing 2 drivers and moving in to 9th place was to have them punt me all over the track. I’m a bad driver but an extremely clean and polite driver. They would easily have overtaken me eventually, probably sooner than later. But, instead, They needed to make a point that they won’t be passed without retribution.

I was seething and just quit. I hated myself for letting these brats affect me that way.

I know these forums are populated with serious, mature racers. I can’t fathom how you manage Daily races. Do you guys not hate this culture of reprobates who ruin races?
 
It happens. 9 times outta 10 I’m in a pretty clean lobby. Can’t let the bad apples ruin the fun.

And like what someone said on here earlier, some of the lobby racing is the cleanest/ most fun racing I’ve found.
 
I don’t commit to a league because I don’t want to let people down if I can’t make it. There are a few guys I used to run laps with online and I should look them up. They are very good and clean racers.

I know there’s no way to keep these brats out of Daily races but I wish PD would ban the ones who are blatantly not there for the joy of racing.
 
It's an issue with low rated lobbies. Get a few races under your belt, and if you race clean you'll eventually get matched with A/S SR drivers. Much cleaner.

Stick to race C. Its less manic.

If all else fails, don't qualify, trundle round at the back for a few races, you'll build your SR and get put in with the cleaner drivers.
 
How much time you spend qualifying is directly proportional to how much enjoyment you get out of Sport Mode.

If you’re always starting in the top 5 you’ll never have to deal with the no man’s land at the back of the grid. Now that you have a whole week to qualify, there’s no excuse to be starting in 11th.

The sim side of GT is about improving your racecraft. If you can’t get your Q into the top 5, find out why. Compare yourself to the replays sector by sector.

Why position yourself in this endless cycle of backmarking and not having any fun on the video game you paid for?
 
Eh, 99sr has been I’d say 90 percent good to me.
I dunno anything about what happens below s. I only saw sr b once and that was plenty!
People have made a lot of posts about problems lately, but by and large I’ve had a strong experience and I am not out there starting top five very often.
I look at it as if you are the type that will let one persons bad move bother you that much than race ai.
My thing is I like single player driving...To a point. At some point for myself personally I’d rather compete against live competition. Online is very dynamic and it definitely takes some getting used to.
I’d say it took me maybe 50-60 races to calm down some.
My thing is if a person is worried about it they should get to 99sr and try maybe ten races. You’ll know if it’s for you or not. I’d say for a person experienced in racing games getting 99sr shouldn’t be that tough.
 
I don’t commit to a league because I don’t want to let people down if I can’t make it. There are a few guys I used to run laps with online and I should look them up. They are very good and clean racers.

I know there’s no way to keep these brats out of Daily races but I wish PD would ban the ones who are blatantly not there for the joy of racing.

Can join up, if you not live for race day you dont get championship points but step one is getting to races you're having fun with.
 
I'd recommend putting in some more practice time in order to qualify closer to the top. The racing tends to be cleaner there. If that doesn't work, as a last resort you can go out of your way to stay out of trouble. Meaning, let people pass as soon as they're close. Ultimately you just have to get to the upper S lobbies. It's not as hard as you think and usually you won't see any dirty maneuvers. The occasional racing incident is still there though. Racing against the AI can only entertain one for so long; sooner or later you'll want a challenge that doesn't involve driving a car that's a class lower than the opponents :)
 
Start off just aiming to avoid everyone else regardless of position, and soon your SR will increase. The more you race clean and start beating people, even one at a time, the cleaner the lobbies will be as a result of matchmaking.
 
How much time you spend qualifying is directly proportional to how much enjoyment you get out of Sport Mode.

If you’re always starting in the top 5 you’ll never have to deal with the no man’s land at the back of the grid. Now that you have a whole week to qualify, there’s no excuse to be starting in 11th.

The sim side of GT is about improving your racecraft. If you can’t get your Q into the top 5, find out why. Compare yourself to the replays sector by sector.

Why position yourself in this endless cycle of backmarking and not having any fun on the video game you paid for?

I had two wins on Bathurst last week, and those were the most boring races I had in weeks... Then the game decided to put me in a much faster group, so I had to fight for 11th, 10th, 16th,... and it was mega fun... Clean midfiled racing, at Bathurst IMHO is something best in this game...
But the most important thing is SR - S...
 
I don’t commit to a league because I don’t want to let people down if I can’t make it. There are a few guys I used to run laps with online and I should look them up. They are very good and clean racers.

I know there’s no way to keep these brats out of Daily races but I wish PD would ban the ones who are blatantly not there for the joy of racing.
That's not the right attitude to have. The added bonus of joining leagues is that you improve from the guys that are faster than you. Like GTP, organised leagues are also like communities. Always good to be in leagues with guys of all abilities
 
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I would also recommend league racing. Find a league that runs once a month, that way you can kind of plan out if you can make it or not. @WhiteFlight1 runs a fantastic Gr.3 league race the second Saturday of the month. Super clean drivers, and quite a few of them are extremely quick. Way faster than I am. I have pretty much given up on the daily races since they changed them to weekly.
 
Don't let the bad races/racers get to you. This is something I hear many many times. People having bad experiences in the lower rated lobbies.

My advice is to simply get back out there and carry on racing. If you are a clean driver, your rating will go up over time and you will escape. Once you get to an S rating for sportsmanship, you should get away from most of the idiots. Another thing to consider is changing your approach entirely. Even if you are in the right, let people have the position and avoid contact wherever possible (even again, if a collision isn't going to be your fault.) That way you can improve your SR faster.
 
I agree with the comments about Bathurst, I was SR99 before this week and am not having to battle my way back to this as I dropped right down to C while racing there, I had great fun but the lower you got the tougher it got to run a clean race, Suzuka in a group 4 is an easy way to get up to SR99.
 
If your SR and DR levels are not high, you will have to race against similarly ranked drivers, and this is what happens. Get your SR and DR levels up so you can race against better drivers. The problem is that you have to race in public lobbies to improve your ranking, which means enduring lots of this bad behavior. So you have to be patient and disciplined, follow good lines consistently, and keep trying... just like a real race driver. Good luck.
 
It's an issue with low rated lobbies. Get a few races under your belt, and if you race clean you'll eventually get matched with A/S SR drivers. Much cleaner.

Stick to race C. Its less manic.

If all else fails, don't qualify, trundle round at the back for a few races, you'll build your SR and get put in with the cleaner drivers.

This. SRA and S are pretty clean.
 
I don’t commit to a league because I don’t want to let people down if I can’t make it. There are a few guys I used to run laps with online and I should look them up. They are very good and clean racers.

I know there’s no way to keep these brats out of Daily races but I wish PD would ban the ones who are blatantly not there for the joy of racing.

I've been doing open lobbies in the evenings with a few friends and randoms. We rarely get dirty drivers and if we do I kick them... Join the lobby

This. SRA and S are pretty clean.

I totally disagree with the SR rating telling me who is clean and who is not. In fact I would say the high SR rating drivers are just sneakier at doing it so you get the penalty and they don't.
 
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If you haven't played the game in months and are writing it off after a race at Bathurst where you started in the bottom half of the grid, that's on you. Try a track that's wider, practice more and give people room. For however many people you encounter who do deliberately drive into you, a bigger majority aren't professional or experienced racing drivers. They won't be perfect.
 
Guys, I appreciate you hearing me out and replying with good advice.

You could have easily just ignored my post and moved on. Maybe I’ll see you online.


Thank you
 
Not punting/ramming, but I saw the biggest scum of the earth move in my entire life of gaming yesterday. The guy ahead of me was trash and crashed in front of me off the road. He went transparent and the game teleported him back onto the track at 0 speed. As he starts picking up speed, he sees that I'm going to overtake him, and goes out of his way to try to cut me off and get in my way so I can't overtake him after he just got done crashing. Thankfully, the game made him transparent so I passed right through him. He then quit the match...literal trash got embarrassed after crashing and then tried to get in the way of anyone passing his parked car.
 
It's always everyone else's fault in these posts. Just play the bloody broken game and get in where you fit in. In this case after jumping in after months out it sounds about right that you would mess it up.
 
Get your SR up, for that you can grind it by having to stick to Race C which is the longest, which means driving trough more checkpoints, which means more potential green SR flags per race.

Then you stay in the back of the pack, don't bother with qualifying either, stay in last place and keep your pace, make sure to not go off the track.

Since you understand that you aren't a skilled driver, no need to get worked up about your DR, so just focus on your SR instead.

Additionally, ditch Sport mode and race in Lobbies like I have been doing lately.
 
This isn't really too helpful (but fun), but learn how to control a PIT maneuver when you get hit. A lot of drivers will simply hit your rear flank in order to PIT you off of the track. Counter steer and ease off of the throttle so that the nose of their car is ramming perpendicular to the side of your car. This turns them into a snowplow and they'll literally come to a halt if they continue to accelerate into you (most do) dragging you sideways around the corner. You get bonus point if you can time their eventual braking with a dismount to correct your car back on the exit line after draining all of their speed.

This isn't helpful because you will lose multiple positions and ruin your tires, but they will usually get a -SR hit from re-ramming you sideways and sometimes it just feels good to drag a trash driver down with you.
 
I’ve been away from the game for several months but decided to fire it back up. I am primarily an off-line racer, exclusively with PC2. But, sometimes you need something different so I re-downloaded GTS and got used to it again. Then I decided to try the daily race because I love Bathurst.

I qualified 11th on a grid of 16, I believe. My reward for passing 2 drivers and moving in to 9th place was to have them punt me all over the track. I’m a bad driver but an extremely clean and polite driver. They would easily have overtaken me eventually, probably sooner than later. But, instead, They needed to make a point that they won’t be passed without retribution.

I was seething and just quit. I hated myself for letting these brats affect me that way.

I know these forums are populated with serious, mature racers. I can’t fathom how you manage Daily races. Do you guys not hate this culture of reprobates who ruin races?

There is currently a problem

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...e-current-5-second-penalty-is-useless.385966/

Have you considered organized racing leagues and series?


Leagues are apples versus oranges.

Daily races are scheduled every hour of every day so I can sit down and (supposedly) have competitive races on my schedule. I am sure that many are like me and have far too many scheduled things in their lives already to go and add another commitment to an already busy schedule.

Aside from the fact that a league is not a solution but a complete avoidance to the problem. Racing in a lobby, racing in single player, or not playing this game at all would be just as valid as a league. None of them address the issues of rising daily race aggression.
 
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Leagues are apples versus oranges.

Daily races are scheduled every hour of every day so I can sit down and (supposedly) have competitive races on my schedule. I am sure that many are like me and have far too many scheduled things in their lives already to go and add another commitment to an already busy schedule.

Aside from the fact that a league is not a solution but a complete avoidance to the problem. Racing in a lobby, racing in single player, or not playing this game at all would be just as valid as a league. None of them address the issues of rising daily race aggression.

They're good alternatives if Sport Mode is being problematic. If you can fit a lobby or league into your schedule, there's a great chance the driving pool will be controlled in that drivers below certain DR/SR levels will be filtered out. The only thing against lobbies is that there's no official ranking system. And since people put so much stock in their DR/SR, they're often overlooked. There are some incredibly run leagues with custom point systems and regulations.
 
They're good alternatives if Sport Mode is being problematic. If you can fit a lobby or league into your schedule, there's a great chance the driving pool will be controlled in that drivers below certain DR/SR levels will be filtered out. The only thing against lobbies is that there's no official ranking system. And since people put so much stock in their DR/SR, they're often overlooked. There are some incredibly run leagues with custom point systems and regulations.

No doubt, but it's the time. I rarely get evenings and weekends to myself and that's when most leagues run. I get most of my racing in during midday, in the winter, when the workload is light. Now that Spring is here, I'll race with morning coffee and maybe a lunch break. I have a tab for GT Planet open while I am working which is how I can even watch the forum.

Either way, the continued blind eye to aggression is more than a little disappointing. PD throws us racetracks and combinations that offer tight fields, like anything at Fuji or this week's Gr4 at Suzuka, without some kind of real repercussion for overly aggressive behaviour. Last night, I was spun off the track and went from 2nd place to finish 7th. The culprit got his 5 second penalty (again, the system knows that this was a seriously dirty move) and then he was allowed in the race immediately following that one because he retained his SR S rating.

A 5 second penalty is NOT ENOUGH. Retaining your SR rank is NOT ENOUGH. Regaining your SR ranking in a matter of a few corners may as well make the system meaningless.

I have been lobbying for a change and EVERYONE should be crying at the top of their lungs for the same change. Bring back 10 second penalties in place of the current 5 second penalty and dole out an IMMEDIATE 1 tier drop in rank. While they are at it, have SR replenish at a slower rate, making the attainment of an SR S rank an actual achievement. The amount of work required to get yourself back among competitive racers will be more than enough to cause most people to think twice before pulling a move that could see them demoted quickly.
 

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