How do you feel about new prizes

[tw1sted]

Well, I tried the spec 2 today and I have noticed that the prizes of seasonal events are a bit smaller. Even if you have the 200% bonus they are not equivalent to the old ones. I like this fix, it makes the game more fair, but for the other side I will miss 504k credits of La Sarthe.
What about you?

 

[Slash]

The old payouts were for a limited time only, they did say not to get used to them.

 

[tw1sted]

I didn't know about that:S

 

[ghostrider135]

Its not all about the grind they say X amount of % as a login bonus but it doesn't save said percentage increase when you disconnect from the network so basically you need to be connected at all times to fully appreciate it, Daft idea very daft.

 

[GoSpeedRacer]

Its not all about the grind they say X amount of % as a login bonus but it doesn't save said percentage increase when you disconnect from the network so basically you need to be connected at all times to fully appreciate it, Daft idea very daft.

I have not had this issue yet. I downloaded Spec II on Monday and was at 150%. I played awhile, turned off my system for the night, and then the next night, I was still at 150%.

As I was playing last night online at 12AM EST, when I received my usual Paints/Cards login bonus, my bonus percentage also increased to 170% at the same time. Hopefully, it's still there when I get home tonight.

On-Topic: I kind of miss the 3X payouts, but 2X is still a good amount, since I usually login at least once a day anyway. I've been preparing for this though, since PD said the 3X payouts were temporary, as others have already stated.

 

[SopranoStylle]

New prizes are cool man don't bother me

 

[rankings18]

we got spoiled with big payouts before 2.0, yes...but that was for a limited time so its all good, still loving the game

 

[Tornado]

The old payouts were for a limited time only, they did say not to get used to them.

What difference does this make? They said in advance that they were going to do something dumb so that makes it so it isn't dumb?







I spend most of my time B-Speccing Dream Car Championship for credits because it is more convenient, so in all honesty this system is actually better for me than the previous one. They still shouldn't have dumped the Seasonal payouts though, and they really shouldn't have raised the OCD prices again.

 

[Samus]

Give us the 300 odd race events we're missing from GT4 then it wouldn't be an issue.

Even if they can't do that, I still find it bizarre that A-Spec hasn't been touched at all. I mean, how hard would it have been to add a new endurance race between Le Mans and Nurburgring in the last year? Two even, level 36 and 38 or something.

But no, the only thing we've got are the seasonal events.

 

[Sampyla20plus]

we got spoiled with big payouts before 2.0, yes...but that was for a limited time so its all good, still loving the game

Indeed, whats the point doing actual races when just a single race brings nearly 600k into the wallet without much effort.
I filled my garage with all the cars found in the game while we had 3 x cash prizes and somehow I do feel I shouldnt have done so.

 

[Sampyla20plus]

Give us the 300 odd race events we're missing from GT4 then it wouldn't be an issue.

Even if they can't do that, I still find it bizarre that A-Spec hasn't been touched at all. I mean, how hard would it have been to add a new endurance race between Le Mans and Nurburgring in the last year? Two even, level 36 and 38 or something.

But no, the only thing we've got are the seasonal events.

Please, name one racig game which has "career" mode upgraded/changed after release on a console

Remember, FM3 had a track dlc, were that merged into singleplayer career ??
No sir, it werent.

 

[Exorcet]

What difference does this make? They said in advance that they were going to do something dumb so that makes it so it isn't dumb?

What needed to be said was said.

Bring back 300% payouts and then 200% that. What we have now is just dumb.

Please, name one racig game which has "career" mode upgraded/changed after release on a console

What other game needed to be redesigned after release?

PD updates, while not mandatory, were all really mandatory.

 

[GoSpeedRacer]

I also like the fact that the bonus payouts apply to everything now, not just Seasonals. Sure, I would have loved to keep 3X, but getting 2X for everything online and offline seems like a good trade-off to me.

I miss the OCD being half price more than I miss 3X payouts though.

 

[Samus]

Please, name one racig game which has "career" mode upgraded/changed after release on a console

Remember, FM3 had a track dlc, were that merged into singleplayer career ??
No sir, it werent.

So because no other games do it then GT shouldn't either? What kind of logic is that?

Also i don't know of any other racing games which came with a career mode a fraction of the size than the last one.

As for your Forza example that isn't the same thing is it, adding a track. The FM3 career already had enough events that you didn't need to play them all more than once to access them all.

 

[tw1sted]

I wouldn't bother about the prizes if we have tons of events to get some serious cash without being boring.

 

[Greycap]

The triple rewards were ridiculous, up to the point in which I ended up buying two Miuras, a GT Mk IV and a 330 P4 just to dump all the excess money somewhere and I wasn't even playing that much compared to many other people. Sure, if there was no credit limit it wouldn't have been a problem but it would still have thrown the entire "earn your cars" idea out of the window. I would have an excess 70+ million at the moment. To put it in perspective, in GT4 I never had more than 12 million and I played it a lot more than GT5.

Even before the triple rewards I already had twice the amount of cars and more money than I ever had in GT4. Against that background it's a bit hard to understand how people consider the prizes of GT5 being too low.

 

[Exorcet]

thrown the entire "earn your cars" idea out of the window

Perfection.

 

[Tornado]

Even before the triple rewards I already had twice the amount of cars and more money than I ever had in GT4. Against that background it's a bit hard to understand how people consider the prizes of GT5 being too low.

This is your problem, to be frank, because I know for a fact the reasoning was explained to you when you said this in a previous thread.

 

[slims]

When I first got the game I found it to be quite a grind to obtain the expensive cars. The seasonals came and made it much easier. Then the x3 payouts came and that made it incredibly easy. I could basically get 1,000,000 cr in less than 10 minutes. I think this is a good middle ground. Money won't be as hard to come by as the pre seasonal days but it won't be a complete breeze either.

Sure if all you do is race seasonals then it will affect you negatively. On the other hand, for the person that races online, A-Spec, remote races and B-Spec it will be better since you'll benefit from the login bonus. Right now I'm at B-Spec level 31. I'm going to wait two more days to get my bonus to 200% and start the push for level 40 and finally finish up with B-Spec. 👍

 

[xxDingerxx]

What other game needed to be redesigned after release?

PD updates, while not mandatory, were all really mandatory.

What other games?

How about tons of them?. Difference being that the majority of developers/publishers just take the money and run.

No matter what anyone says about PD, do you know many developers that produce a 1gb+ patch nearly a year after release.

Cant think of many. I do know a few that would incorporate some fixes and tout it out as a new game though.

 

[TAIL LIGHTS]

Fortunately I tanked up to 20 mil last weekend. Was good while it lasted.

 

[Greycap]

This is your problem, to be frank, because I know for a fact the reasoning was explained to you when you said this in a previous thread.

Don't know about your "facts" but my MyGranTurismo page says the following:

Greycap owns 1018 models in his mygranturismo.net garage. Before tuning, the value of his garage reaches 456,937,013 Cr, the total weight of 1,256,256 kg, and the cumulative power 308,003 BHP. By selling all his sellable models, he would earn 16,753,593 Cr.

Looking at the garage value, add to that the around 9 million credits I have now, divide by the amount of victories which stands at 1951 at the moment, and you'll have an average prize of approximately 237,634 Cr. I know that the figure doesn't take into account expensive prize cars but neither does it acknowledge that extra Miura and more than a few duplicate LMPs, for example. The total amount of cars is somewhere past 1100.

My GT4 game save tells me that I have around 9 million credits in the bank, my prize money total is 37,193,500 Cr and that I've received 341 prize cars. Not knowing what those prize cars have been I'll throw out a guess of 500,000 Cr per car which is probably too much but at least it won't be an underestimate. The value of those prize cars thus stands at 170,500,000 Cr and combined to the prize money the total is 216,693,500 Cr. Apparently I've won 1287 races which brings the average income per victory to around 168,371 Cr. I have 490 cars.

Doing the math reveals the average income per race to have been nearly 70,000 Cr higher in GT5. I can't think of many "grindable" races in GT4 that paid the GT5 average, even with the prize cars included. The DTM is actually the only one that comes to mind. Even the hardest series had prizes of around 25,000 Cr per race and a 250,000 Cr overall bonus - 50,000 Cr per race plus the car which was usually kept anyway. Now similar series pay about twice that amount while being half as long so you can do it twice in the same time for quadruple money.

 

[tw1sted]

I've never had more than 12Mil

 

[another_jakhole]

@ Greycap
Toronado is on a hunt for us, that's all. It'll die out if we just whisper to each other so he doesn't hear. Or, very easily we can ignore him when he starts his outrageous rants. He's got a cool name though lol

I've never had more than 12Mil

Me neither, until I started to grind to make money to pay for cars that I use in Arcade Mode everyday.

 

[RedBullRacer]

As someone who doesn't grind, I feel the payouts were perfect before. I would rather it stayed the same, but the 200% idea is really cool! I like that a lot.

 

[Tornado]

Don't know about your "facts" but my MyGranTurismo page says the following:

Greycap owns 1018 models in his mygranturismo.net garage. Before tuning, the value of his garage reaches 456,937,013 Cr, the total weight of 1,256,256 kg, and the cumulative power 308,003 BHP. By selling all his sellable models, he would earn 16,753,593 Cr.

Looking at the garage value, add to that the around 9 million credits I have now, divide by the amount of victories which stands at 1951 at the moment, and you'll have an average prize of approximately 237,634 Cr. I know that the figure doesn't take into account expensive prize cars but neither does it acknowledge that extra Miura and more than a few duplicate LMPs, for example. The total amount of cars is somewhere past 1100.

My GT4 game save tells me that I have around 9 million credits in the bank, my prize money total is 37,193,500 Cr and that I've received 341 prize cars. Not knowing what those prize cars have been I'll throw out a guess of 500,000 Cr per car which is probably too much but at least it won't be an underestimate. The value of those prize cars thus stands at 170,500,000 Cr and combined to the prize money the total is 216,693,500 Cr. Apparently I've won 1287 races which brings the average income per victory to around 168,371 Cr. I have 490 cars.

Doing the math reveals the average income per race to have been nearly 70,000 Cr higher in GT5. I can't think of many "grindable" races in GT4 that paid the GT5 average, even with the prize cars included. The DTM is actually the only one that comes to mind. Even the hardest series had prizes of around 25,000 Cr per race and a 250,000 Cr overall bonus - 50,000 Cr per race plus the car which was usually kept anyway. Now similar series pay about twice that amount while being half as long so you can do it twice in the same time for quadruple money.

Because I'm lazy:

In GT4 you were awarded prize cars that could be sold and re-won at will, and most of the cars in the game cost considerably less (many of those to the tune of half) than the ones in GT5 do. Even if you didn't B-Spec everything, the prize cars alone in GT4 easily outpaced any earnings you can make in GT5 when you take into account how much more everything costs, and there aren't even that many Seasonal Events that eclipse GT4's best $/Minute ratio events.

And you could B-Spec everything.

There's also how GT5's structure compared to GT4 makes a single race with a large payout much more important than it ever was in that game.

This is also ignoring the elephant in the room regarding how nothing stops you from not utilizing that extra earning power that Seasonals represented, so you need quite a bit more justification than "I don't like it" to explain why others shouldn't be allowed to play the game the way they want to. For example, I want to play the game as close as possible to how I played and continue to play GT2, and the Seasonals allowed that quite handily.

@ Greycap
Toronado is on a hunt for us, that's all. It'll die out if we just whisper to each other so he doesn't hear. Or, very easily we can ignore him when he starts his outrageous rants.

Do you have anything to actually contribute to this discussion, dare I ask? Or are you simply trying to continue the same libelous nonsense that Tenacious D started?

 

[Rench]

I miss the OCD being half price more than I miss 3X payouts though.

this is what matters most to me..... money can still be made in a number of ways, but a good deal on rare cars?......

 

[SavageEvil]

Go cry me a river, the only reason we had those boosters was because PD needed to work on fixing things so to keep people playing and a bit less perturbed by the incessant grind and laundry list of "don'ts", they gave us the boosters, but the boosters were only there limited. They said so each time they put them up, by my count is exactly 2 times.

With the way things are now, you earn the correct amount of money for the allotted time spend traversing a course, the Ferrari F1 races pays out the highest as it was weird to have a blasted 10 lap race that paid out so little compared to a simple 1 lap race. Fair trade off, but now that everything is what it should be I don't really have many complaints about money as it multiplies regardless A spec, B Spec, Remote races, it all adds up and faster than you can in A Spec alone. Yes the Double prize bonus works on any money and xp won in game while connected online.

I figured that the OCD was just basically like going to the premium dealership and buying a car brand new, problem was too many people got spoiled by half price new cars. Lol, take it easy, it won't be that much of a difference. You just have to invest a little more time if you want to get "that" car. The bonus caught me off guard as I already lost a few million with that stupid x2010 time trial, but I will do all time trials just to gain extra money when I need it. So many things I left undone, now I can do them.

 

[RedBullRacer]

I wanna add, I like new payouts for cash. I think they should have left the XP higher.

 

[MxLunatic]

Dislike it to a great deal. Nearly feel insulted, for whatever that is worth. Being forced to log on the game each day to keep a 2.0 multiplier is down right aggravating. The Xp/Credit system in GT5 has been lousy since day one. The triple rewards & half price OCD more or less fixed it (and no I didn't f'ing grind la Sarthe, but now 'need' to.)

I can honestly say this has pushed me more towards Forza 4 than anything. I'm simply tired of worrying about the bs. I just want to drive cars and relax. PD insist on adding more bs between me and that, and I'm just tired of it.