How do you WRS ?

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CRXnut
He was a rally driver which makes it even more scary :-)
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He was also a genious driver who set the world record for a Pikes Peak run in a Peugeot 405 Turbo 16 Rallycar. He won one WRC title with Ford (1981), won the Paris-Dakar rally 3 times for Peugeot and once for Citroen (1987 and onwards). He was close to winning the 1985 WRC title, but suffered from a crash which had him 18 months at the hospital. His 1987 Pikes Peak record-run was filmed in this short film:

 
Yikes :scared: I wish they kept Pikes Peak in GT, that was fun back in GT2
 
Yep. I bought GT2 a while back thinking I would go back and 100% it, but as soon as I jumped in a race I was HIGHLY disappointed, I remember it being soo much cooler than it actually is. The graphics are hilarious. Having said that, it did have some very neat features that 3 and 4 don't have, i.e. Pikes Peak, the Racing Car modifications, Suzuki Cultus (loved that car). But yeah, graphics really let it down.
 
MisterWeary
Yep. I bought GT2 a while back thinking I would go back and 100% it, but as soon as I jumped in a race I was HIGHLY disappointed, I remember it being soo much cooler than it actually is. The graphics are hilarious. Having said that, it did have some very neat features that 3 and 4 don't have, i.e. Pikes Peak, the Racing Car modifications, Suzuki Cultus (loved that car). But yeah, graphics really let it down.
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You think I'll complain about graphics? I was raised with a 16MB-RAM Laptop, PS2-level graphics are "Mindblowing" to me.

Seriously, my first racing-game was TORCS, The Open Racing Car Simulator. Open source, with graphics to match. Second was NFS:U2. With a PC like mine, the loading-times between shops were awfull, and I couldn't even fire nitrous (;)) without the PC starting to lag - all with minimum settings.

I tried other games: FPS, RPG, etc. Strategy had me hooked for a while, until games started to require good PCs, too (Darn 3D! Age Of Empires II was good enough with 2D, so was Civilization!). The GTA series had me for a while, since even GTA:SA ran well on my lousy PC.

Then, back to racing: TOCA RD2 Demo (Demo!), and NFS:MW. Since they required even better PCs, they also ran worse, with the lag and graphics becoming horrorific in NFS:MW... Until I had the chance to get a PS2. God of War was mindblowing. Heck, even "Asterix & Obelix: XXL" was beautiful. "The Simpsons: Hit & Run". And then: GT4. Best thing I've seen to date, except for "Oblivion" on a mate's Twin-7900 setup...
 
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man, but jumping over rumble strips and cutting chicanes.... is that how we should WRS? Isn't there another series for that type of driving? :scared:
 
Depends on the driver, I guess... I generally keep the car on inside the rumble strips, except on those very special occasions such as Tsukubas Dunloop left-hander on Week 83. I don't feel comfortable with two wheels off-track, and I'm generally too slow to profit anything from it. Plus, with all wheels on-track, it feels more fun, and there are less chances of getting a dirty run.
 
jake73
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man, but jumping over rumble strips and cutting chicanes.... is that how we should WRS? Isn't there another series for that type of driving? :scared:
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I don't quite get what you mean, sorry.
Do you refer to the current week at Le Mans ?
There is no shortcutting allowed.
 
^ The ruling at Le Mans on the chicane before the hot lap begins and last weeks race at Autumn Ring. I saw a shot of the car launching off the rumble strip. I don't know how many racers were doing that but it takes the reality out of it (for me). One week we use the analyzer to make sure a side mirror doesn't brush the wall, then the next we are jumping curves and grass bogging. Two wheels off the track doesn't really bug me, as it happens in real life. Tsukuba and Grand Valley are good examples of that... keeping in mind that the car is not in the air when this happens.

I know it's all within the rules. But I can't bring myself to try those things to go faster...
 
Same for me. I'm not shortcutting since it indeed takes the reality out.
Again, it's a pity that the game allows that kind of behaviour and gives us no way to prevent it effectively.
Mere black flags like in Enthusia would be a great step forward.
 
I've never played Enthusia. Is it as good as GT4?
 
Well, some people think it is. I thought the black falgs were pretty useful, you ought to get it. On another, realated note, I had the idea for running a WRS event for Enthusia. I don't really know what I saw, but I thought I saw an idea for a GTA one, so if that can have one, Enthusia deserves one for sure.
 
I'll revive this thread, as it's interesting and there are quite a few newer WRS participants who might have something to add. As for me:

Bumper camera-I used to use the roof cam, but found that for anything but splitscreen battles I am faster from the lower camera. I have never been able to drive from behind the car. I can't feel it.

Speed-I hate it but I'm constantly checking down there to see where I'm at, especially midcorner. It's distracting, as is the position indicator in the upper left corner of the screen. I can't help but notice if I've passed or been passed by the ghost even if I have the bastard turned off. It's a final turn killer sometimes. Gotta get some sticky notes to cover it up.

Braking-There is no clear answer for me here, it depends on the corner and track. I'd say in general I rely on visual cues around and on the track for help when they are available. Where there are none I probably look at the speedo.

Combo-Depends on how familiar I am with the track. Mostly I just try beating my ghost, turning the image off and on, as sometimes it helps, mostly I just start repeating my mistakes. If I get behind early I'll try different lines to make time. I also turn the power off on the DFP after I get a good feel for the track-I can turn the car quicker without the force feedback, although things can get twitchy depending on the car.

I use as much of the track as is legal, and have never found stretching the limits to be faster than just plain getting the turn right anyway. Overall I'm kind of slow to learn and it takes longer than I would like to get faster.
 
Good call superwally.

Setup: Driving Force Pro on custom table, Dell projector onto wall at range 11ft, 8ft wide viewscreen in 16:9 mode. Seat: Leather corner sofa (surprisingly supportive and comfy!) :D

View: Bumper camera too. I just can't get it right any other way. And with superwall-o-vision, it feels right too.

Screen setup: I use the 'simple' view mode, but I leave the map up. This means I don't know what my fastest is, and I don't know if I'm in front or behind my ghost until the splits come up. I only changed recently (for WRS) but now I wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm a 'visual marker' brake person, usually trackside objects, but shadows work well. I also use a balanced throttle a lot (comes from my professional driver training) and I left-foot brake when I think it might work. Every now and then, I yank the handbrake. I have it on the d-pad down, which isn't great if you're scrabbling around with 3/4-turn of lock, but not bad. My ghost is on the up d-pad, so i can flick it on and off quick on the straights.

As for speed, I only look when I've dialled in a bit. Then I look at some replays and try to pick out my problem areas.

Recently, I've put in a few two-hour sessions. My longest sessions are not WRS, sometimes I get friends round and we attack one track with one car, trying to really nail it, goading each other on. That's fun. :)

Combo: I like to drive hairily to begin, to feel a car out, then start reigning it in, usually going faster by not being silly. This is probably the wrong way around - I should start with a smooth slow line, and just keep it smooth but go faster. I find when I'm completely "in the zone", if I screw up on a corner and lose 10/20mph, by the time I get to the next corner, I hit the brakes, then am way too early for the apex, because I'm usually carrying more speed. It's quite interesting when that happens - I've usually got in a groove for maybe 10 laps, and the first 'big' screw-up kinda wakes me up out of auto-pilot!

Finally, I love the sounds of GT4. Sometimes I'll just get my ol' black supercharged Mercury Cougar out and drive 'legally' around a circuit, just crooozin' and listening to the burblyburblypop. :) Then I'll light it up and spend the next two minutes going sideways. :D And then I might snap a few shots. It's too time consuming really, but I've got the GT4 bug back pretty bad, so meh.

V.
 
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