How does the GT-One Road Car and Race car match up?

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I'm 70% complete and still haven't gotten the car I've longed for, for so long. So, I'm going to go through the series trying to win one of them.

The question I'm asking is, what is the difference between the GT-One Road car (won at Amateur GT World and Tokyo Enduro) and the GT-One Race Car (won at GT Pro Dream car champ, All stars and PD cup)?

Thanks all.
 
One is a road car. Non adjustable front downforce. Also stock (nonadjustable) suspension, tranny, etc (At least in stock form).

The other is a race car...everything is adjustable, plus lighter overall weight.

Interestingly enough, you can enter a non-modified R390 Road car in the PD cup, as well as the Trial Mountain enduro.
 
NoQuarter
One is a road car. Non adjustable front downforce. Also stock (nonadjustable) suspension, tranny, etc (At least in stock form).

The other is a race car...everything is adjustable, plus lighter overall weight.

Interestingly enough, you can enter a non-modified R390 Road car in the PD cup, as well as the Trial Mountain enduro.
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As long as it is credited as a "Road Car" it fulfils the rules.
More interesting is the Altezza LM Race Car which is in the game miscredited as a "Road Car" and therefore is also available in the races you mention.
 
Thanks for the replies lads. The difference between road car and race car did seem rather obvious but when I looked at a picture of the road car it looked like something you'd see flying around the Le Mans circuit as opposed to a supermarket car park.
 
rigdon
Thanks for the replies lads. The difference between road car and race car did seem rather obvious but when I looked at a picture of the road car it looked like something you'd see flying around the Le Mans circuit as opposed to a supermarket car park.
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The Nissan R390 and Toyota GT-One are designed to be race cars. But I guess some rule in some event says that there has to be a certain amount of road cars produced for the race car to be registered. (Same as in WRC for example).
This leads to these alien road cars.
Jaguar XJ220 could fit in that category as well.
 
flat-out
Jaguar XJ220 could fit in that category as well.
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Ummmm, no. The XJ220 is a car designed only for the road. It may have later been converted into a racer but it wasn't initially in jaguars plans.

The word you are all looking for is homologation. A current example of a car built for homologation is the maserati MC12. A more classic would be the ferrari 250 GTO (Gran Turismo Omligado= Grand touring homologation)

Edit: Might as well add in prototype cars. Prototype classes are for cars that have not or will never meet homologation standards. They are usually more extreme and impossible to convert to road spec.
 
flat-out
As long as it is credited as a "Road Car" it fulfils the rules.
More interesting is the Altezza LM Race Car which is in the game miscredited as a "Road Car" and therefore is also available in the races you mention.
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The Altezza LM, whilst being classed as a road car, has non-standard parts which prohibit it from entering the PD Cup and Trial Mountain Endurance.
 
Famine
The Altezza LM, whilst being classed as a road car, has non-standard parts which prohibit it from entering the PD Cup and Trial Mountain Endurance.
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Thanks for the info.
I had never tried, I raced them in a stock Speed 12. (no joke, I really did it).
I think daan mentioned somewhere in the WRS that there's a race or series however where the Altezza LM Race Car is available.
 
I raced them in a Speed 12 too... :D And then again in an R390, TS020, XJ220, Ruf RGT, Ruf CTR2, Vauxhall VX220, Aston Martin Vanquish, Lotus Elise 190, Tommy kaira ZZ-S, Toyota Supra, Nissan R33 Skyline and Honda Integra Type-R...
 
Famine
I raced them in a Speed 12 too... :D
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Knowing your feelings about that car, I was expecting this :D

Famine
And then again in an R390, TS020, XJ220, Ruf RGT, Ruf CTR2, Vauxhall VX220, Aston Martin Vanquish, Lotus Elise 190, Tommy kaira ZZ-S, Toyota Supra, Nissan R33 Skyline and Honda Integra Type-R...
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But there I think you should consider having a social or family life. :lol: :lol:
 
Pfft! Over-rated :D

Besides, GT3 can also BE a social life, of sorts. Right daan, Sukerkin, Mr. P, Lotus350, Wastegate, player2, VB, littleg & banjobear? :D
 
Famine
I raced them in a Speed 12 too... :D And then again in an R390, TS020, XJ220, Ruf RGT, Ruf CTR2, Vauxhall VX220, Aston Martin Vanquish, Lotus Elise 190, Tommy kaira ZZ-S, Toyota Supra, Nissan R33 Skyline and Honda Integra Type-R...
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Meh, show off! I've put all those cars (or most of them) through their paces in a tournament too, you know!

And there's nothing wrong with the Sunday Cup. :sly:
 
Better in what way? Because it's "funner"? :rolleyes:

The GT-One Race car will absolutely toast the Road car at nearly every track, because...it's a race car. The only advantage the Road car has over the Race car is the ability to enter the PD Cup and the Trial Mountain Enduro...
 
NoQuarter
Better in what way? Because it's "funner"? :rolleyes:

The GT-One Race car will absolutely toast the Road car at nearly every track, because...it's a race car. The only advantage the Road car has over the Race car is the ability to enter the PD Cup and the Trial Mountain Enduro...
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Every single time I have raced the race car with it, I smoked it by at least 5 seconds with no mods. :sly:
 
The AI drive like idiots. It's not hard.

I seem to remember the Road and Race both weigh the same. But other than that, obviously the Race is preferable in everything bar Test Course brain-killing.
 
to go against the sayign that the Race will blow the Road away, I raced the Road in the GT championshp with the Road and came within 3 points of beating the Race in the series. I beat it in 3 or 4 of the races too
 
I shall reiterate:

Comparing a human-driven Road Car to an AI Race Car is not the point. The AI drive with all the talent of a rock. If a person takes both to the same course, you will find that the Race Car will be much faster. Surely that's not too hard to understand.
 
I have both the Gt-One race and road car, the race car will eliminate the road car every time. However i think that the 787B has the GT-One Race car beat for handling. The Gt-One road car is useful for the Polyphony Digital Cup, with no modifications its still around 600hp.
 
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I have both the Gt-One race and road car, the race car will eliminate the road car every time. However i think that the 787B has the GT-One Race car beat for handling. The Gt-One road car is useful for the Polyphony Digital Cup, with no modifications its still around 600hp.
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With a name like that you should be able to reply my question :)
A few years ago, wasn't the Toyota GT-one racing in the Prototype group-C category ? with Mazda, peugeot etc... then why did they need a road version for homologation ?
 
Toyota raced in Group C with a variety of cars. The predecessor of the Gt-One, the TS010 raced in Group C. They also used the 88C, 89C-V and 90C-V.

Group C ended in about 1994, and the Gt-One raced in Le Mans in '98 and '99. Therefore Gt-One never competed in Group C. I think the class the Gt-One raced in was called GTP. It differed from Group C in terms of homologation because in GTP, a road version of the car needed to be built. I don't know the exact number they needed to produce, but it is a small number. In Group C, homologation didn't apply.
 
Group C Fanatic
Toyota raced in Group C with a variety of cars. The predecessor of the Gt-One, the TS010 raced in Group C. They also used the 88C, 89C-V and 90C-V.

Group C ended in about 1994, and the Gt-One raced in Le Mans in '98 and '99. Therefore Gt-One never competed in Group C. I think the class the Gt-One raced in was called GTP. It differed from Group C in terms of homologation because in GTP, a road version of the car needed to be built. I don't know the exact number they needed to produce, but it is a small number. In Group C, homologation didn't apply.
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Thanks, very interesting information. You sure did your homework.
You are to the Group C what Famine is to hybrids : a guru.
 

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