How is GT6 doing now that Sport has shipped?

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by Chrunch Houston, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. Chrunch Houston

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    I run a nightly GT6 room (see my signature). I was worried that GT Sport would suck the life out of GT6 online racing.

    It seems however, that my room has been busier than usual. It has filled up every night since the release of GT Sport. I know it has been less than a week, but so far so good.

    Perhaps a lot of hosts, being on the cutting edge, have moved on to the new game, leaving a lot of stranded players.

    I have no plans to buy GT Sport. I will only buy a PS4 and a new wheel for GT7. Now, if Sport were to morph into GT7, with a multitude of new slow cars, and lots of new and returning tracks, I might reconsider.

    This Sport seems like little more than a prologue, with some cooperation with a racing sanctioning body. Too few tracks and cars to be a true GT title.

    Has GT Sport affected the way you play GT6? Do you consider GT Sport to be no more than a glorified Prologue?
     
  2. Stumps_GTI

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    I'll give you my play, I haven't touched GT6 for maybe 12 months.....it has however been fired up again the passed few days. lol :)
    To be honest, I was less impressed with 6 than what I was with 5, both paled in comparison to the first four, aside from better graphics and a somewhat better handling physics in my opinion. :( I think GT6 should have been a warning to all in which Kaz's dumbass brain works.
    The way that the one player mode/campaign was whittled to almost nothing was a good lead in to what they have with GTS. :(
    The lack of depth in championships, no endurance races to speak of (who counts a 24 minute race as an enduro for goodness sake :( )...
    Online lobbies were and most likely are still good in GT6 as you say, though I never really did much there because of my stupid slow internet.

    The way things are now with this new garbage, as it stands, if no major drop in DLC can bring in a giant new range of cars AND tracks, I think a lot who have purchased it may wish to come back to GT6? And the dumb only save "online"?? Who thought of that? LOL Lots of complaints there from quite a few with how unreliable the server has been. :)
     
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    GT Sport has actually given me a new appreciation for GT6, since it potentially may be the last of its kind, so I decided to pick it back up. Plus, unlike GT Sport, I can use my wheel with it out of the box, which is great.

    The main deal breaker for me regarding GT Sport is the lack of any kind of career mode. I can live with a small car list. I can live without being able to upgrade cars. But butchering the single player experience is where I draw the line. GT6’s career mode may be shorter than most of the other GT games, but at least there’s something there. I’m only at 16% completion, so I have stuff to do in the game.

    The need to constantly be online in order to do anything worthwhile in GT Sport and to even save is another nail in the coffin I’m afraid. I’m hoping that with enough backlash, things will change. PD/Sony will hopefully see soon how ridiculously stupid it is to require an Internet connection just to do things that have nothing to do with online and fire whosever idea that was. Kaz also said that more single player content will be added to GTS in the future, but I’m not holding my breath for that until I see something actually happen.
     
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    I'm planning on returning to GT6 for some fun online racing. I did a one off evening a few weeks ago & had a blast. The whole PS4/PS Plus for multiplayer, & lame online in all PS4 racing games is pushing me back to PS3 & GT6. However, in all honesty it's hard to go back once you've been spoilt by Assetto Corsa's physics & Project CARS audio. But GT6 has great online options, a great community of clean racers, & great racing.
     
  5. Skew

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    I just returned to gt 6 yesterday after a couple of years away. Reinstalling all thise patches was hell with my fat ps3 and 5mb connection but the game seems better than it was at launch handling wise so im glad of that. The release buzz for gt sport brought me back to gt6 since gt sport doesnt interest me but i may paradoxically get back into the online races in gt 6 now to get my online racing from a fame with much more to offer than sport.
     
  6. eran0004

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    Probably the same person who thought that online racing should be about who's the fastest driver - not about who can do the smartest savefile hack to their cars. If you have a better idea for how to prevent savefile editing, I'd be interested to hear it.
     
  7. Stumps_GTI

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    Well, I have no idea what a "savefile hack" is, so I can't help you there. Never been into cheating, though I know they do exist..:)
    I suspect it's to do with unscrupulous twits who live only to hack games for self gratification and the spoil the play of others.
    It goes without saying that this has gone on for years, I heard that Sony were at one point, banning players for doing this, and so they should.
    Having played MGSV for quite some time, it was clearly evident that that game had one really good cheater.
    He (?) had amassed a huge point total from raiding peoples bases (part of the gameplay), but he wasn't just a few hundred points ahead....
    His score was something like 10million, whilst the closest to him in second was only a couple of hundred thousand. :(
    He even posted video to youtube of his exploits.... :eek:
    Sony were informed numerous times, by myself included......nothing ever happened. He still sits at the top of the chart, King turd. ;)

    So maybe SONY should think of a "better" way to stop this?
    What happens if someone "hacks" SONY again? What's going to happen to all the online saves then?
    Surely, with the tech involved in "making" a game, can the developers not make them fool proof?
     
  8. eran0004

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    A savefile hack is when you take the savefile of a game and manipulate its data. You can encrypt the savefile to make it more difficult to read and write to it, but as long as it's stored on the console it is vulnerable.

    Not even storing it on a server is fool proof, but I imagine that it's harder to crack.
     
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  9. photonrider

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    Good to know! I've seen your lobbies many a time (though haven't had much luck joining in for some reason - seem to almost always get disconnected.)

    Same here. Postponed the purchase of a PS4 due to severe lack of video-gaming time - while being there on day one for former GT iterations. This time around, if I do get into a PS again, it will be a Pro (or PS5) with all the suitably appropriate peripherals which will cost quite a bit - so it will have to be a very, very attractive game that will make me invest in that - as you say, a possible GT7, or an open world game on the likes of TDU2 (with Casino :sly: - but hugely improved.)

    Sort of.
    Factor in the Eastern hemisphere's preoccupation with the figure '8' and, as you said, the lack of proper 'non-internet' single-player content that would make it a lot more marketable in areas that lack proper internet, or costly ISP fees, etc, and we have the possibility that some marketing guru at Sony is going to be pushing for all those very available dollars.

    Fingers crossed. ;)

    And, yes, whenever time permits I play GT6, with GT5 being close at hand. In addition, I recently had all my gaming systems set up again - and GT4 is now also plugged into my PS2, with GT3 close at hand. Good memories are always on tap! :lol:
     
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  10. Chrunch Houston

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    My room is set up to be a little arcadish. Slow, 425pp, cars with racing soft tires, and many people use SRF. No boost though.

    It is not for everyone. But it is crazy fun. At those speeds, you would be surprised at the corners you can take side by side without contact.

    The room has filled up every night since GT Sport came out, until tonight. Tonight there were only ten.

    Like I said, I have no interest in GT Sport.

    I will continue to play GT6, and continue to wait for the yet unannounced GT7.
     
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  11. photonrider

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    That sounds like a whole heap of fun!
    I, myself, don't believe that racing is only exciting when everybody is flying around at 300 mph. In that case a 100m foot-race sprint wouldn't excite me - but it does. In fact, the 100M at the Olympics is one of the most exciting races ever - whether swimming or running still doesn't matter. It's not always about excessive speed - its about how close the competition is. This is the reason Gordon and even JJ became unpopular - they would leave the pack and take off and what's the thrill in that? For both spectators and participants alike the rush comes from the competition being close enough that the outcome is unpredictable till the last millisecond.
    Obviously, you have the right idea in arranging your lobby to meet this criteria.
    Doesn't matter whether SRF is on or off, as long as it's a level playing field - everyone shod in Nikes or everyone running barefoot. The low PP also encourages many to join because the racing is actually more perceptible at those speeds; manoeuvres, overtaking, the look of the cars - all this comes into sharper focus and is a treat to the senses - as opposed to blindly rushing off towards the finish line.
    My approval of what you are doing! (If my approval means anything at all :lol: )

    Whenever I do go online in search of lobbies, I always look for GTPlanet-member hosted lobbies (which is why I tried to join your room sometimes) and now that I'm more clear at what you are doing I will most certainly be trying again.
    I used to host an all-day (10 in the morning to 10 at night EST) Lobby at the Ring in days gone by on Sundays - which was very, very popular - we would have 1 lap races (with a 6 minute gap between races) all day long, and the room got extremely busy at times. Sometimes I would hand the hosting over and then return later to take up the room. Other times, even as host, I would sit the races out and merely spectate (and watch for cheating or nasty racers) and that was fun, too.

    From what I hear (and see via the hundreds of downloads on YouTube now) there are also player-created lobbies in GTSport - but WTH is the use of that if we cannot race our beloved production cars? I caught a member the other day wailing in a thread about being unable to race a VW Golf - and I could totally emphatize - as anyone would who actually owned that model of the Golf IRL.
    We want to race our own cars - if unable to do so IRL, then at least virtually - and against real people in their choice of production car. This switch in GT to a heavily race-car oriented discipline (while the life and soul of the game to some who demand such to be accepted by everybody else (millions) willing to shell out sixty bucks) is not palatable to everybody.
    And since I can't see GTSport accommodating everything many people loved about the series - classic cars, non-existent cars (think Furai), cars that want to kill people (like the Stratos and Yellowbird), B-Spec, Trading, Sharing, Gifting, etc - and the deal-breaker; that Saves are online - is going to split the fan-base - and maybe that's okay; if Podi doesn't forget the millions that also want something other than daily sterile racing in race-cars with no other mission than to be 1st (some of us are already satisfied that we actually hit the Egg and have got over that program.)
    There is that old saying about how it's not more important about winning than about how one plays the game . . . and I see your success at keeping your lobby popular due to that.

    BTW - slightly off-topic (but now that I got your attention) the first person that came to mind when I heard about Hurricane Harvey was you - which made me rush in to GTPlanet hurriedly to cobble together a Storm Watch thread. Glad to see you up and running again!

    :cheers:
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  12. Chrunch Houston

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    Yep, I'm a street car guy. The '70 and '73 Slylines are some of my favorite 425pp cars in GT6. The '70 is faster, but the '73 has more grip. The Karmann Ghia, isn't that fast, but it turns on a dime, and I have seen it win when in the right hands.
    :lol::lol::lol:ikr:lol::lol::lol:
    Thanks for the concern. I was not personally affected by Harvey. Except for the four days I was stuck in my condo. The streets kept flooding as the bands of rain kept coming. I stayed home. I ran the room every night, so it wasn't that bad.
     
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  13. Rinsky

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    I see your rooms quite often but I've never joined because all my cars are set at multiples of 50PP (400 450 500 550) and it's taken along time to tune them all to my desired PP plus I run with no aids except ABS 1. I might work on tuning a couple of cars to 425PP just to drop in and have some fun though.
    There is definitely no shortage of people playing GT6 online and if anything I'd say it's gotten a whole lot better now that GTS is out. I don't know if it's the same with your room but the ones I join or host the racing has become exceptionally clean. It seems to me all the kids have gone elsewhere (hopefully to GTS) and the amount of Rammers, Missiles, Corner Cutters and people picking only Cheater Cars has all but gone away.
    My friend and I hosted a room Wednesday night (89 or older 400pp to 550pp) and within a couple of races had a good size room going on for a good 6 hours. Within that time not one person was a problem and every race was clean & respectful, seems like it's been that way every night now since GTS came out.
    Like you I also have no interest in GTS what so ever and I will be one of the many who continue playing GT6. Even though I did buy FM7 the other day and I'm now shopping for an Xbox one, but even then I have way to much time invested in GT6 to stop playing so hopefully they will leave it online for quite sometime.
     
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    I love the Karmann Ghia - I have it in Plum Crazy - and I also have die-cast models of it.

    Good to hear. :tup:
     
  15. Skew

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    Couldnt you just use the power limiter option in setup to reduce the pp? It takes no time at all that way.
     
  16. Rinsky

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    If your someone who doesn't like tuning or someone who doesn't really understand it fully then yes just moving the power limiter is a viable option but if your someone like me who enjoys tuning then you know there is so much more goes into a car setup. It's ideal to get a car right at or close to the desired PP without adjusting the power limiter to much. By taking a high powered car and moving the slider to get it into a lower PP range you are robbing it of its performance and while this might work just fine in career mode it's a different story racing others online. There are some really good threads https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/board/gt6-tuning/ that go into great detail about tuning in this forum.

    I know a lot can change with a cars setup in 50PP increments so what works great at 450pp can be almost undriveable at 500pp. This is not true for every car but it is for most of them and every car is different so there is no magic set up that works on everything. This is why I want to explore setting up a car from New or completely stock to 425PP. Plus I just like tuning along with the challenge & satisfaction I get from making my own setup for a car.