How to fluff up a season - Ferrari style

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Well, as a Ferrari/Schumie fan i have to ask - what has happened to Ferrari?

a) their launch control doesnt seem to be improving
b) their 2003 car seems to be a regressive rather then progressive step in terms of performance
c) they have lost the skill of tatics in race strategy

For all the money they spend on development, they are getting a poor return. :(
 
Well, certainly doesn't help that Michelin have gained such an ascendency. I don't if Ferrari have necessarily slowed down as such, but McLaren (horsepower) and Williams (chassis) have taken steps forward this year, even if McLaren hobbled themselves with the apparently failed MP4/18 project.

Let's face it - after the way they've been dominating, it was always going to look bad when the others finally caught up.

Best finish to the season since '86!
 
how in the hell did RB's car fall apart like it did :confused:
 
Well, F1 is cyclical in nature, and we're seeing a downturn in Ferrari's dominance. The team are already talking up the 2004 car though, so prehaps they've hit some development walls that aren't there for the other teams.

Apparently, much of Williams' new-found success is down to the FW25 having a very short wheelbase.

Lafora: It was as he went into the braking zone, so I would suggest that there was some sort of stress fracture which snapped as the car went through the full throttle to full brake transition.
 
If thought that too re suspension, but it is possible that the rear brake disc failed/exploded as he entered the braking zone, blowing off the rear tire and suspension.
 
Possibly, but brake disc failures tend to be more around the hub. I've never seen the whole suspension detach like that with a brake disc failure.

Also, Hungaroring isn't particularly heavy on brakes, but that doesn't discount faulty manufacture.
 
Transmission? Could seize or something
 
I think something catastrophic happened with the gearbox, the rear suspension is usualy mounted onto to transmission and engine. For all of the suspension to come away like that i think that the gearbox may have simply exploded!
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
Lafora: It was as he went into the braking zone, so I would suggest that there was some sort of stress fracture which snapped as the car went through the full throttle to full brake transition.

The SPEED channel announcers thought that also. Also, They mentioned something about the driveshaft possibly tearing through the carbon fiber body. Aren't most of the suspension parts made out of Carbon fiber?
 
Shumi is getting old.......... pfffffffff HAHAHAHAHA:lol: :lol: :lol:

no its true... its getting weird it aint ferrari like....

The suspension faliyur on Ruben's car was weird! and he hit that wall so hard! It reminded me shumis crash when he broke a leg (:D)
N-e-wayz (im back!
 
Yeah they are cuz CarbonFiber is strong but light...

It was suspension Faliur... evryone knows that come on!;) :D
 
Originally posted by Mr Devil
Shumi is getting old.......... pfffffffff HAHAHAHAHA:lol: :lol: :lol:

no its true... its getting weird it aint ferrari like....

The suspension faliyur on Ruben's car was weird! and he hit that wall so hard! It reminded me shumis crash when he broke a leg (:D)
N-e-wayz (im back!

Your post, and the last line in your signature sickens me :rolleyes: :irked: Would it be funny if you hit a tire barrier at roughly 250 km/h and broke YOUR leg? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Majarvis
Your post, and the last line in your signature sickens me :rolleyes: :irked: Would it be funny if you hit a tire barrier at roughly 250 km/h and broke YOUR leg? :rolleyes:


Yea, i agree. About as tactful as a pirhana:irked:
 
Originally posted by Majarvis
Would it be funny if you hit a tire barrier at roughly 250 km/h and broke YOUR leg? :rolleyes:

Of course if would! :D
lol!

N-e-wayz hey im a Shumi (Micheal not ralf) hater... he's just winning cuz he's in a ferrari... and right now he aint winning at all (:D)
 
That makes no sense Mr Devil.

Anyway, back on topic...

Yes, suspension wishbones are made of carbon fibre, because it is very strong. However, it's directionally-strong, which means that if you stress it in the wrong direction, it is brittle and will break with almost no force at all.
 
It was suspension Faliur... evryone knows that come on!

If it was suspension failure then the wheel wouldn't have come off the car and there wouldn't be bits of driveshaft flying around. Fisichella's suspesion failed at Silverstone and the wheel stayed on his car. The wheels are designed to stay on the car in the event of the suspension falling apart - this was a more major failure. Martin Brundle thought it was something in the transmission.
 
Originally posted by Mr Devil
Of course if would! :D
lol!

N-e-wayz hey im a Shumi (Micheal not ralf) hater... he's just winning cuz he's in a ferrari... and right now he aint winning at all (:D)

Ok, you really are an immature kiddie, and an idiot :rolleyes:

Yes, I'm sure you'd laugh if you crashed and broke your leg, you would laugh :rolleyes:
 
Hey i allways laugh when i crash out or stuff... n-e-wayz... Maybe Rubino touched somthing or traded paint... and I am sure it was suspension faliur... maybe it was a driveshaft failiur causing a suspension failiur (cranshaft breaking then causing the suspension to break...

And out here most ppl like seeing shumi Crash out... noone like seeing a ferrari crash but if its Micheal its ok :D
 
Originally posted by Mr Devil
Hey i allways laugh when i crash out or stuff... n-e-wayz... Maybe Rubino touched somthing or traded paint... and I am sure it was suspension faliur... maybe it was a driveshaft failiur causing a suspension failiur (cranshaft breaking then causing the suspension to break...

And out here most ppl like seeing shumi Crash out... noone like seeing a ferrari crash but if its Micheal its ok :D

Once again you just proved how immature and ridiculous you truly are :rolleyes: Yes, I'm sure you've crashed out at 250 km/h, LIVED, and broken your leg, but still find the energy to laugh :rolleyes:

And yes, most people in Quebec must like seeing MS crash out because they can't face the fact that he's a better driver than JV, and it's the only way for him to finish higher than Michael :lol:

Please, are you even old enough to drive little boy :rolleyes:

You truly are a waste of space and opinion on this forum, I'm sick of constantly seeing you either ruin a thread, or insult someone else...
 
Originally posted by Majarvis


Please, are you even old enough to drive little boy :rolleyes:

You truly are a waste of space and opinion on this forum, I'm sick of constantly seeing you either ruin a thread, or insult someone else...

:cheers:

Never mind that his spelling acumen is about as sharp as a marble
 
Originally posted by Mr Devil
Of course if would! :D
lol!

N-e-wayz hey im a Shumi (Micheal not ralf) hater... he's just winning cuz he's in a ferrari... and right now he aint winning at all (:D)

last time i chked, he was winning when he was with bennetton too.

and it wasn't like he started winning right when he got to ferrari. the guy EARNED those championships if you asked me.

i doubt coultard would've done the same amount of work had he been the one that went to ferrari
 
Ok folks, I'm going to close this one up, since it's gone off topic, and has become rather personal.

We should all remember that we're from different parts of the world, and that as such we have different allegiances. Also, please remember that some people in this forum are not native English speakers, and try to bear that in mind.

Finally, if you have an issue with someone or something, please use the "Report to Moderators" button on any post. This will cause a member of staff to come and have a look. Or you can PM me directly, since I am the moderator of the Motorsport area.

I don't want to see any further mention of desire to see a driver crash and/or hurt themselves. This is not decent behaviour, and from this point forth, shall not be tolerated.
 
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