How to GRIND without GRINDING.

[egoaudio]

I just thought I'd post and let everyone know how one might get easy credits. (B-Spec Grinding) (will only work if the PS3 recognizes input from keyboard used)

1. Get through B-spec 'till level 35. Win X2010.

2. Hack a keyboard. Connect the appropriate hacked wires to a usb relay controller. Plug keyboard into ps3.

3. Write batch file to send code to relay controller. essentially 'pressing' x or arrow right, in a certain sequence.

4. Set batch file to task scheduler and run every 16 minutes.

5. Start dream car race 'sarth', in X2010, making sure that there is no rain.

6. hit x. set task to begin after race ends.

7. forget about GT5 for a while.

8. Come back to money. About 8 million a day.

Just a thought.

EGO

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

lmao that's awesome

 

[egoaudio]

hehe. Thanks. Just an idea. One of the few I have.

There are other combinations, such as championships, that one might set up with seperate batch files to attain even more credits but this is just the simple way.

 

[adeadsnipermatt]

how can i hack my USB keyboard?

 

[egoaudio]

how can i hack my USB keyboard?

When you press a key on your keyboard, you are just closing a circuit, or contact. All that is necessary is to extend both sides of the circuit/contact outside of the keyboard, connecting each side to one of the relays on the usb relay controller.

It would take a bit of work:

1. Opening the keyboard.

2. Soldering a few wires and running them from the inside to the outside of the keyboard.

EGO

 

[xeoreg]

if you play fighting games and have a fightstick, just enable turbo function and keep the button depressed. easier solution for most people.

 

[egoaudio]

if you play fighting games and have a fightstick, just enable turbo function and keep the button depressed. easier solution for most people.

That might work too. Can you have multiple buttons pressed at the same time?

For B-spec to Auto-Grind (nice term for it) one would need to use both the X button input as well as the Right D-pad (or stick) input.

If you could have multiple buttons pressed simultaneously and 'all the time', you would end up exiting the race because the arrow would go all the way to the right and hit x, initiating the exit race sequence. Then X would confirm the exit.

Nice idea though.

EGO

 

[niky]

Unnecessarily complicated. And you didn't say how to rewire the keyboard specifically to achieve this. I would rather get a broken DS3 controller and find a way to make "X" intermittent under one continuous press. (add in a resistor? a relay?)

What this needs is working proof of concept, like this:

My automatic B-spec driver using Lego robotics



Come back when your USB keyboard actually does grind for you, and then we'll talk. But even then, it won't be nearly as Rube Goldberg-esque awesome as that one.

Basically, the video also shows what's needed. Put Bob in a fast car, set command to "maintain pace" or whatever is needed, then XXXXXXXXXX.

 

[egoaudio]

Come back when your USB keyboard actually does grind for you, and then we'll talk. But even then, it won't be nearly as Rube Goldberg-esque awesome as that one.
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1. The white box on the left in an RS-232 interface connected to my laptop.

2. The white box on the right is a motor controller.

3. There are two vehicle relays that are connected to both, the motor controller and the appropriate wires coming from the keyboard.

EGO

 

[KForceOH]

This would work awesome but I always have to hit circle to exit "bspec level up" screen to get to next race. Something in the order of X,X,O,X,X will start the next race without looking. I just set the egg timer for race length then press buttons.

 

[egoaudio]

This would work awesome but I always have to hit circle to exit "bspec level up" screen to get to next race. Something in the order of X,X,O,X,X will start the next race without looking. I just set the egg timer for race length then press buttons.

Yeah, I guess it can either be O or Right arrow. With a batch file you can time button presses, delays and such.

I was planning on buying a dedicated usb relay controller but I had these parts lying around the house.......

EGO

 

[DrkPhnyx]

If I could send USB keyboard commands, I could do it with no moving parts or hardware hacking.... probably, just using my TM Cougar HOTAS. But that's the trick, it has to accept actual keyboard commands (the PS3 that is), and I doubt it does. So the lego robot is about the best option.

Or sacrifice a controller, pull apart the X button, wire one contact to a wheel with metal "teeth" (like 10 of them evenly spaced) and have it motorized to turn however fast you want the contact to complete (button press). Would be simpler and cheaper than the lego robot.

But this is just thinking outloud. I don't have a controller I'm willing to sacrifice to do it.

 

[egoaudio]

But that's the trick, it has to accept actual keyboard commands (the PS3 that is), and I doubt it does. So the lego robot is about the best option.

My PS3 recognizes my keyboard input automatically. No trick.

I was initially thinking of going more mechanical, like the lego, but this is way more accurate, less risk of things shifting.

Then I was toying with the idea of sending my laptop keyboard input as output to the PS3 but couldn't figure out a way to control my PS3 with my laptop.

EGO

 

[niky]

1. The white box on the left in an RS-232 interface connected to my laptop.

2. The white box on the right is a motor controller.

3. There are two vehicle relays that are connected to both, the motor controller and the appropriate wires coming from the keyboard.

EGO

There you go! Should have put that in the first post!

RE: Starting next race: You'll want to start them manually, anyway. You have to watch to make sure that Bob doesn't do something incredibly stupid at the start of the next race. Or that your script runs too fast and you accidentally exit a race when the script thinks that you should be starting the next one.

 

[egoaudio]

There you go! Should have put that in the first post!

RE: Starting next race: You'll want to start them manually, anyway. You have to watch to make sure that Bob doesn't do something incredibly stupid at the start of the next race. Or that your script runs too fast and you accidentally exit a race when the script thinks that you should be starting the next one.

Yeah, I should have posted it up first. My bad.

Also, I have the script at every 16 minutes and Bob finishes in 14, so there is some space between finish and start. It is enough time even if he races so much that the car loses horsepower. Also, I have never seen him do anything stupid, but even if he did, it would auto-align with the task scheduler. It would just miss one race.

Also, this is making me rethink my B-spec Autogrind setup. Maybe move to A-spec: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-cnLX3F2E8

I would only be afraid of a crash in this scenario because he may never finish the race if he gets turned sideways, or backwards. lol!

 

[Sly Guy]

if you play fighting games and have a fightstick, just enable turbo function and keep the button depressed. easier solution for most people.

I have a MadCatz TE. I think I''ll try that now...

EDIT:

Works good. Only thing is you have to put the Maintain Pace first, then leave it. But with the X1, you should win even if you don't choose that.

 

[niky]

Yeah, I should have posted it up first. My bad.

Also, I have the script at every 16 minutes and Bob finishes in 14, so there is some space between finish and start. It is enough time even if he races so much that the car loses horsepower. Also, I have never seen him do anything stupid, but even if he did, it would auto-align with the task scheduler. It would just miss one race.

Also, this is making me rethink my B-spec Autogrind setup. Maybe move to A-spec: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-cnLX3F2E8

I would only be afraid of a crash in this scenario because he may never finish the race if he gets turned sideways, or backwards. lol!

Ah... a "Like the Wind" grinder as we used to do in previous GTs. Start a race on the oval, tape down "X", Go eat lunch, watch a movie, etcetera... come back home... profit.

 

[DrkPhnyx]

EGO, that's interesting, I hadn't thought of plugging in a USB kb, but it makes since since there are places to type.

But what about the DS "X" button though from a KB? Does the letter X result in the PS3 applying X button action? Or is there another key that does the same? I get the impression here that Enter will act as DS X on "ok" buttons, but what about elsewhere in the game?

I don't mean to pester, just curious, interested.

 

[adeadsnipermatt]

Ok I just found the perfect setup and I had to post it. Ok I have created the best Auto grind tool with a Dell USB Keyboard and Masking tape! This is what I did for some reason when I hold down enter on the keyboard the game thinks its repeatedly hitting the X button but it does drive the car. so i use the tape to hold down the enter button on the key board and I put tape on my analog stick on the DS3 controller to keep my X2010 hugging the right wall on Indy and to floor it the whole time. i will post Pictures soon maybe a video. but it works I just grinded 1 million while playing Zelda Four Swords with my wife ^_^

 

[egoaudio]

Hi Drkphnyx,

You are correct in your assumption. 'enter' equals X button press. Throughout the game it acts as an X input.

Always glad to help.

EGO, that's interesting, I hadn't thought of plugging in a USB kb, but it makes since since there are places to type.

But what about the DS "X" button though from a KB? Does the letter X result in the PS3 applying X button action? Or is there another key that does the same? I get the impression here that Enter will act as DS X on "ok" buttons, but what about elsewhere in the game?

I don't mean to pester, just curious, interested.

YEP! That's the way to A-Spec Auto-grind. You can use a rubber-band so there is no residue on your controller. The rubber-band works great. Just dial in the slightest amount of right turn, full throttle and you're rolling.

Also, adjusting the downforce to minimum levels will get you higher top speed. Also, try adjusting camber, toe, to zero levels makes the car faster.

I Auto-grind 'Like The Wind" Indy. Every 4.5 minutes = 84000cr. YAY!

Ok I just found the perfect setup and I had to post it. Ok I have created the best Auto grind tool with a Dell USB Keyboard and Masking tape! This is what I did for some reason when I hold down enter on the keyboard the game thinks its repeatedly hitting the X button but it does drive the car. so i use the tape to hold down the enter button on the key board and I put tape on my analog stick on the DS3 controller to keep my X2010 hugging the right wall on Indy and to floor it the whole time. i will post Pictures soon maybe a video. but it works I just grinded 1 million while playing Zelda Four Swords with my wife ^_^

 

[adeadsnipermatt]

I was having great luck with it and I just checked on in and I found it burning out in a corning for 45 minutes OUCH! anyway I tried getting some right turn in there to help it keep it strait but I can't find the right amount to keep it from losing too much speed in the corners. I have min downforce and I think I should fix the toe and Camber hopefully I see better results. Whats the longest you have gone without your car screwing up?

Oh one more question is this the fast Money per min grind with this trick? I was wandering if Indy with the ZR1 RM is faster money per minute?

 

[egoaudio]

Lol. Similar experience. Around 2 hours of burning tires..... HAHAHA.

Yeah , after that incident, I made it a point to figure out the absolute fastest way to get the X1 around the course. My findings:

1. minimum downforce
2. max out suspension...... raise everything
3. zero out toe and camber. with negative toe the X1 grinds the wall more than zero toe. Changing this helped a bunch.

If you can get your X1 to get up to 250-260 on the straights then you should be OK.

Another Key is to find opponents that are NOT aggressive.... especially in the beginning. If you can get out in front by the end of the first lap, you should be alright.

The most I've left my A-spec grinding is around 16 hours.... Overnight. Also, I think this is the best for grinding. Fairly certain. I doubt the ZR1 would be able to keep up with the competition at the American race.

EGO

EDIT: Also, I put some of the winnings into engine overhaul for the X1. It NEEDS THEM after tons of grinding. It will lose horsepower that I haven't figured out how to get back if left for too long. No biggie though. I just buy another (cool color) X1 from the dealership. lol.

I was having great luck with it and I just checked on in and I found it burning out in a corning for 45 minutes OUCH! anyway I tried getting some right turn in there to help it keep it strait but I can't find the right amount to keep it from losing too much speed in the corners. I have min downforce and I think I should fix the toe and Camber hopefully I see better results. Whats the longest you have gone without your car screwing up?

Oh one more question is this the fast Money per min grind with this trick? I was wandering if Indy with the ZR1 RM is faster money per minute?

 

[Ecchi-BANZAII!!]

Your last two posts has been the best since they don't end with EGO.

 

[Exorcet]

I don't get these. Duping is faster. Seriously (no insult, I'm asking), why not dupe? Besides being a cool engineering/coding/whatever exercise, I can't see the motivation.

 

[egoaudio]

Little confused by your post. They are my initials.

EGO

Your last two posts has been the best since they don't end with EGO.

 

[egoaudio]

Yeah, I don't know. I never tried the duping thing. I just tried this out and it works so I'm happy.

I guess the difference would be that you get XP this way. Not that I really care about it.

Maybe I'll look into duping.....

EGO

Edit: Also, I tried the birthday thing, which I guess is similar to the duping dealy, and I got really tired of going in and out of accounts, loading, blah blah blah. This way, I just set the driver and I have money when I come back to have fun with.

I don't get these. Duping is faster. Seriously (no insult, I'm asking), why not dupe? Besides being a cool engineering/coding/whatever exercise, I can't see the motivation.

 

[Exorcet]

Edit: Also, I tried the birthday thing, which I guess is similar to the duping dealy, and I got really tired of going in and out of accounts, loading, blah blah blah. This way, I just set the driver and I have money when I come back to have fun with.

The Birthday exploit was really only good for getting hard to find or obscenely expensive cars. It could take a long time to do, but not as long as grinding for it.

Duping is different. All you need is a second save to transfer cars to your main. Setting it up takes about 3 hours. After that you'll have access to every car except the Red Bull X1 and the 10,000,000+ cr cars in infinite supply, immediately.

I think that you said before, you get about 8,000,000 per day. With duping, you only do the grind once, and then you get a free car every day after. Or you can further grind the duping save to 20,000,000. Your method could come in handy there, though I prefer to wait for new seasonals. The ones from earlier this month took me from 11 to 15 million. If I were to use "auto grinding", I'd reserve it for a duping account just so that I wouldn't have to do it every time I wanted a car.

 

[egoaudio]

Hmmm, I may give it a try tomorrow then.

Thank you for the information man. I appreciate it.

I've purchased just about all of the cars that I want at the moment (555 right now). But being able to duplicate them would be cool.

EGO

The Birthday exploit was really only good for getting hard to find or obscenely expensive cars. It could take a long time to do, but not as long as grinding for it.

Duping is different. All you need is a second save to transfer cars to your main. Setting it up takes about 3 hours. After that you'll have access to every car except the Red Bull X1 and the 10,000,000+ cr cars in infinite supply, immediately.

I think that you said before, you get about 8,000,000 per day. With duping, you only do the grind once, and then you get a free car every day after. Or you can further grind the duping save to 20,000,000. Your method could come in handy there, though I prefer to wait for new seasonals. The ones from earlier this month took me from 11 to 15 million. If I were to use "auto grinding", I'd reserve it for a duping account just so that I wouldn't have to do it every time I wanted a car.

 

[COBRA-CTSV]

Your last two posts has been the best since they don't end with EGO.

It's HAVE, not HAS!!!!

 

[adeadsnipermatt]

I'm currently Auto Grinding on my main account because my secondary acconuts are all locked into schedule trades and I rather have money to mess around with in my primary account.