How you learnt to drive?

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Okay,

I'm 100% certain there has probably been a topic like this in the past... but this one is more directly for me.

Basically i've had my learners for 3 months atm. This is in order of what i've learnt to do:

1. Started hillstarts straight up, when i could do 30 degrees, moved to 45 degrees ect. (had to learn this without a tacho cause our's is broken, so totally by sound :sly: )
2. Carparks to get general handling of car
3. Road Rules
4. Merging with traffic, intersections, changing lanes ect.
5. Reverse Parking
6. 3 point turns

I'm up to the point where i've learnt all the basics and want to start learning some more advanced stuff.

Just looking for a list of some of the stuff i can learn, or special driving techniques u pro drivers do.
 
45 degree hills? Where do you live? :scared:

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In a Ford Taurus, at my high school. It still stands as the most powerful car I've ever driven.

T.T

Oh, Duke, he lives in Brisbane, Austrailia. apparrently they either have to learn on a test hill, or they have very hilly roads over there.
 
In the UK you have to be 17 to get your provisional license. This provisional allows you to drive on the road with a passenger as long as the passenger is over 21 and has held a full UK driving license (I think they have to have held it for 3 years too). Before I was 17 I attended a driving school which took place on private land. It was good for getting the basics of clutch control, signalling, manoeuvres and car control. I only went there for maybe 6 or 8 lessons (can't remember exactly). After I got my provisional I started taking lessons fairly quickly. I already had reasonable car control from my pre-driving lessons, so I spent the first real lessons getting used to driving with other cars. I think the instructor was quite happy with things as he let me go 60mph on the country roads on my first lesson. I started doing the manoeuvres required for the driving test pretty quickly (parallel park, reverse around corner and 3 point turn) and I was decent at parallel parking and 3 point turns. Reversing around corners were a bit tricky at first, but after a couple of practises (spread over two lessons) I got decent at them. During the time I was having lessons I was also being taken out occasionally by my parents. Just going for short (30-45 minutes usually) drives about the countryside and doing manoeuvres. My dad once took me to Edinburgh though, which was a great drive. We left about 12 midnight and didn't get back until after sunrise.

Back when I got my license you only had to do a theory test (35 multiple choice questions with a pass mark of 30). This was pretty much common sense, a formality really. Now you also have to do a Hazard Perception Test, where you watch several video clips and press a button when you spot a hazard on the video.

After my theory test I booked my driving test quickly. I think I had a total of between 14 and 16 lessons (better to be over-prepared than under-prepared). The week before my test was spent doing a mock test, along one of the routes used for the actual test and having to do the required manoeuvres. I passed the mock test, a good sign for the real one.

On the day of the final test, I was obviously a bit nervous. Cars for me have always been a passion, so I couldn't wait to finally be allowed out on my own, in control of one and totally responsible for my actions. The examiner I got was apparently one of the toughest. He used to be a motorcyclist, so he wasn't big on car people and was ruthless when it came to drivers using mirrors. Before he came over my instructor wished me luck and reminded me to keep calm and use the mirrors.

After the examiner got in and checked my provisional license, theory test score and appointment he asked my name, what I was doing etc. A bit of small talk I didn't want and he probably didn't care either. I set off from the test centre and got to the T junction leaving the centre. I checked left and right and pulled out. As soon as I pulled out and started accelerating along the road, a taxi came flying along the road behind me and braked. I wasn't happy. The instructor got me to pull in a few hundred metres up the road. After I stopped and put the handbrake on he asked me why I thought he had asked me to stop. I said that the taxi driver had to slow down behind me when I pulled out (on the driving test, pulling out in front of someone and making them slow down is an immediate fail). He asked me what I thought, so I said that the road was clear when I pulled out, the taxi driver was not in sight. I added that due to the fairly tight nature of the street the taxi driver was using, in my opinion, excessive speed. Thankfully he agreed with me and let me carry on. The rest of the test went well, the manoeuvres were fine and my driving was generally good. On the emergency stop I was a bit unlucky as when he got me to stop the right front wheel was over a drain cover, so it momentarily locked up. He didn't seem to notice or care though (and after all it wasn't my fault), so that was fine.

As we got back to the centre he told me I had passed, congratulated me and left. I was elated, a great feeling. I was so pleased to have passed first time. My instructor drove me home (I don't know why I couldn't drive). I was exactly 17 and a half years old when I passed my test (9th July 2002).
 
amp88
My instructor drove me home (I don't know why I couldn't drive).

Common practice in the UK, I've heard a number of different reasons given, the two most common being insurance issues and past accidents from drivers who have just passed being 'high' on the success and not concentrating. No idea what is true, but the second sounds the most likely to me.

I passed second time (and a long time ago - no theory or awarness test back then) and on my test my examiner got us lost!!!

I was ask to turn down a street and soon after I had done, I was asked to pull over, which I did. The examiner then said that he had directed me down a street by accident (he did not normally test in Swindon) and off the test route. The test was 'suspended' until I got back on the test route and then carried on. Calmed me right down that the examiner could make a mistake like that and the rest of the test was a breeze.

The things I would stress to newly qualified drivers, that I have learned from many years of driving (and many advanced driving courses) are

  • Passing your test is just a licence to carry on learning on your own
  • You will never know it all, no matter how long you drive for
  • Everyone else on the road is a dangerous loonie (treat them as such)
  • WATCH OUT FOR BIKES
  • You are now in charge of a potentially lethal machine - remember that
  • Book yourself some advanced driving classes - you will not regret it

And most of all enjoy yourself, but keep in mind driving is a privilege not a right, act like a fool on the road and you deserve to loose that privilege.

Regards

Scaff
 
I learnt to drive when I was 11, well I didn't so much learn to drive but I learned how to drive a car down an empty street, turn it around then drive it back again. I didn't learn to drive until I was 19, one of my current cars' doesn't even have a tach, but I never use the tach in any car anyway. Regarding not being allowed to drive yourself home, it is because of just passing the chances are higher that you'll be concentrating less on the driving and more on the pass. I could of driven myself home but I didn't because I took my test in my dads car and he waited at the test center and then I asked him to drive home whe I passed.
 
I wish it was mandatory in the states to learn to drive a manual. Last month a family friend couldn't valet park her car b/c the parkers didn't know how to drive a stick lol.
 
In Michigan, considered to have some of the toughest driving stanards for new drivers, you can't begin learning untill you have become 14 years and 9 months of age. After completing the "Segment I" drivers training program that takes nearly two months to complete, you may apply for a drivers permit in which the young driver can only drive with a parent or legal guardian of age 18 or more. Then you must drive in different road conditions including rain, snow, night, fog, etc. to meet a 50 hour standard for "Segment II." Shortly thereafter, and once you have moved up to 16 years of age, you can now have a "Graduated Learners Permit" which allows the new driver to drive alone with several driving restrictions on hours, etc. And finially, once you reach the age of 17, you are given your full drivers licence like any other citizen in Michigan.

...For me, I had been driving since I was 10. My Dad owns a good ammount of property, same can be said of my Grandfather. Tractors, work trucks, Gators, etc were all used when work needed to be done, so I was quite ready when I turned 14 and 9 mo. As a matter of fact, my instructors thought I was a bit cocky about it, especially when driving on the reverse course and the road course.
 
YSSMAN
...considered to have some of the toughest driving stanards for new drivers, you can't begin learning untill you have become 14 years and 9 months of age.
Oh well, in Finland one must be 18 to drive but then we'll get the full licence without any passenger rules right away. I don't want to even imagine how it would be like to have 16-year-olds driving here... :scared:

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nightkid86
I wish it was mandatory in the states to learn to drive a manual. Last month a family friend couldn't valet park her car b/c the parkers didn't know how to drive a stick lol.

God, thats sad...
 
...Ahh yes, the question of teaching kids to drive stick. Doesn't happen in the US too often, but all of my cars have been stick, and presumably will be for quite some time, as I prefer it to anything else.

@Greycap: The only reason why the Michigan system is so tough is because of the weather we drive in all year, and the pride that we associate with driving an automobile, given of course, that we (for the most part) are building what we drive in our state.

I've known a few people who have moved to Michigan with their licences from other states and were forced to re-take drivers training in order to meet the Michigan standards, because we are apparently better than those from Virginia or Georgia.

Plus, from what I understand, the Michigan Drivers Licence is one of the few American licences that are widely accepted across Europe, and from what I understand, is fully transferable to the German licence program... Why? I have no idea...
 
What exactley is the problem with some people learning to drive manuals in the US, it's not exactley hard. I much, much prefer driving manual to auto, I do see the benfit of auto but I enjoy driving, and auto takes some of the involvment away.
 
In England you have to be careful about cyclists, when my school bus overtakes one, they normally pull up by the door at the next stop and get angry with the driver for driving to close past the cyclist.
 
live4speed
one of my current cars' doesn't even have a tach, but I never use the tach in any car anyway.

I personally consider the tach as inportant as the speedo (actually more so given that most tach are more acurate than speedos). I hate driving cars without them, and use mine constantly. For acuracy I use the speedo function on my road angel, as thats GPS based and acurate to +/- 1mph, rather than the 10% over-read permited for a speedo.

Regards

Scaff
 
I just use the sound of the engine for gear changes and the speedo for speed.
 
live4speed
I just use the sound of the engine for gear changes and the speedo for speed.

Each to his own, but neither is as acurate as using the tacho. I guess its just one of those things, once you get into the habit you really miss it.

Plus if you drive any track only car you will find that most do not have a speedo fitted, engine revs are far more important on the track.

Regards

Scaff
 
In an 80's Grand Cherokee and a Daytona Shelby. Man, talk aobut a tricky cable clutch. But that's what I learned to drive stick on. Now...I can drive any manual transmission. Except of course for big rigs and what not.
 
Scaff
Each to his own, but neither is as acurate as using the tacho. I guess its just one of those things, once you get into the habit you really miss it.

Plus if you drive any track only car you will find that most do not have a speedo fitted, engine revs are far more important on the track.

Regards

Scaff
That's one difference between me and you, whereas I know from past posts that you've driven at tracks a few times before, I haven't been to that many race tracks and the ones I have been on most of the time I've been a passenger so I've never driven or learnt to drive in a way where I should be more reliant on the tach. If I did start driving at tracks I'd probably start to grow more reliant on it and find it more useful but for everyday road driving which is pretty much all I do I find what I do use more than good enough.
 
car I learnt to drive in had no rev counter, power steering or ABS. It was a real POS, when the engine fan came on he whole car would judder.
 
sutton.a
I'm up to the point where i've learnt all the basics and want to start learning some more advanced stuff.

Just looking for a list of some of the stuff i can learn, or special driving techniques u pro drivers do.

If you're talking about high-speed techniques and stuff like that, it's far too soon for you to be attempting any of that in the real world.

If you still want to learn those things, I would suggest buying a Driving Force Pro, and then downloading the Live for Speed demo.

As for your license test in 3 months, if it's anything like the one in the usa (and considering how easy it is to get a license here, I bet it's even more difficult where you are), drive like a frail, little old grandma who is utterly and completely convinced that everyone else on the road is trying to kill her. In other words, follow the speed limit 100%, accelerate gently, check your mirrors a lot, and drive defensively, giving lots of room to cars in front of you and placing your foot above the brake in any situation where you might need to use it (such as passing through an uncontrolled intersection). It may sound anal and stupid, but that's what the tester expects. ;)
 
Poverty
car I learnt to drive in had no rev counter, power steering or ABS. It was a real POS, when the engine fan came on he whole car would judder.

Wow that sounds like my mums old 1.1 carbed fiesta that I learnt to drive in. Although it also had a slipping clutch which sapped the power out of the mighty 50hp engine. I remember when we had a new clutch put in and it felt like a completely different (yet still crap) car.

Although I don't realy care about having abs or power steering tbh.
 
When I was 14, (nearly 30 years ago) I asked my old man if I could back the station wagon (Estate for those of you across the pond), out of the drive.
He said "yes."
After a few weeks of this I asked If I could "take her to the corner". Pop said "yes".
Somewhere in there I got my learner's permit, and my dad let/made me drive almost everywhere we both went. (much to my mom's chagrin).
By the time I got to driver's training, (almost a year with my permit) Mr. Arrivee, the teacher, scolded me constantly to remove my elbow from the windowsill. He also scolded me for downshifting to slow the car on a hill.
After two or three of the required 6-10 sessions, Mr. A had me parallel park the Datsun B210 on Alvarado Street in Monterey.
I whipped it in the space. I was the prescribed 6 inches from the curb.👍
I had been driving that day for about 20 minutes of our scheduled 3 hours out. I didn't get to drive anymore that day, and fairly little most of our other sessions. I guess he thought I was ready for driving in the "real world". :lol:
 
im only 15 so i dont even have my permit yet but.... ive been driving since i was 11 with my dad of course, we go out on rural roads and highways and i drive:sly: i am pretty good if you were driving rite by me you would never now i was under age:sly:
 
I learned in an unfinished housing development. Those are great, because the roads are all in, but no houses yet, or traffic. So, on the weekend, it's an abandoned area perfect for learning :). My dad started by teaching me the basics: starting, stopping, and shifting. Then, starting on a hill :scared:. It seems so daunting as a 15 year-old, but it's so damn easy after a while :lol:.
Scaff
Each to his own, but neither is as acurate as using the tacho. I guess its just one of those things, once you get into the habit you really miss it.
I never use the tachometer for any real purpose, but I can't imagine being without it for some reason :lol:. I typically shift by feeling the throttle. My music usually drowns out the engine at lower RPMs, so unless I'm flooring it, I can't really hear it. Once the throttle slacks off a bit, it's time to shift :)
 
Scaff
Book yourself some advanced driving classes - you will not regret it
I’ve had my P1 licence (allows me to drive on my own) for about 8–9 months, now. I’ve been driving since I was 16, so just over 2 years driving time, so far. I’m booked in for my first advanced driving course for Wednesday the 21st. Any advice you can give as to how to approach a day like that?
Scaff
Plus if you drive any track only car you will find that most do not have a speedo fitted, engine revs are far more important on the track.
My car does not have a tachometer, which normally isn’t an issue in daily driving. But for this advanced driving course I think it may be an issue… :indiff:
 
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