Hydroplaning?

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brettfavre26
What cars are easy to hydroplane? Only easy one I know is the PDI Racing Kart. Go online, make a lobby at Nurburgring 24 Hour Weather Change, it'll feel like a slip and slide :lol:
 
Pretty much any over powered car with the ride height set to the lowest level.

Hydroplaning isn't really "there" so to speak, its just a part of the track that's wetter than the others that makes the car lose traction. Not really an issue when you know what you're doing (Which about 65-70% of online drivers don't).
 
Pretty much any over powered car with the ride height set to the lowest level.

Hydroplaning isn't really "there" so to speak, its just a part of the track that's wetter than the others that makes the car lose traction. Not really an issue when you know what you're doing (Which about 65-70% of online drivers don't).

In real life, even if you know what youre doing, it is sometimes impossible to avoid hydroplaning
 
Pretty much any over powered car with the ride height set to the lowest level.

Hydroplaning isn't really "there" so to speak, its just a part of the track that's wetter than the others that makes the car lose traction. Not really an issue when you know what you're doing (Which about 65-70% of online drivers don't).

Where you pull that percentage? outta your ass?

Heh. :lol:
 
Hydroplaning is not so much a power issue as a speed, tyre and depth of standing water issue(speed of the tyre) yes a powerful car can spin the wheels and cause this but i would be much more scared of hydroplaning while at speed. when hydroplanning there is not much you can do as there is a layer of water between your tyres and the road surface.
 
*ANY* car can become a hydroplaning monster if you race (outside of A-spec events), set the grip level to 'real' instead of 'low' and use sport or racing tires (outside of racing intermediate or racing rain). If you set the grip level to 'low' or race in A-spec events, which are low by default and don't allow you to adjust, even racing slicks have magic grip in the rain, and much less likely to hydroplane.
 
The audi r8 01' hydroplains really bad, you have to feather the brakes, which I do but if you just hit them which is great fun you just slide for ages.
 
Aquaplaning is essentially floating on a substantial layer of water, so the tyre(s) is / are not touching the ground at all.

This is different to the low grip offered by wet surfaces in that the layer of water is typically much thinner, i.e. a film, and can easily be displaced by the tyre - the extra effort in displacing the water causes the lower grip levels, as well as a cooling effect due to the water.

With this in mind, I'm not convinced GT5 does model proper "water-borne" moments where often your only hope is to keep the controls steady until you land again. I do know that the slicks and the sports tyres offer less "grip" in extremely wet circumstances, but I wouldn't consider this aquaplaning since the car is still controllable to the finest degree, except that it's slower to respond due to the lower grip.

Aquaplaning is like driving with the wheels locked on ice (with a very high rolling resistance...), your inputs are useless - I've never had that in GT5.
 
Agree that aquaplaning doesn't seem to be modelled at all in GT5. I've commuted under torrental rain numerous times, and the distinct steering feel when the car is hydroplaning is absent in GT5. Also in the AMG challenge, the description suggests avoiding the normal racing line in wet as it will be extremely slippery, but actually it's just fine.
 
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Its called Aquaplaning

It's always been hydroplaning to me.
Maybe it is a regional thing. I live in the central US and have never heard it called aquaplaning.

Never experienced it in GT5 either, just basic loss of traction on a wet surface. Without standing water there is no hydroplaning. I have seen no evidence of standing water (puddles, large splashes while driving, etc) while racing. I don't think the developers thought it would be worth the time/effort to add it to the game (I agree).
 
Aquaplaning is essentially floating on a substantial layer of water, so the tyre(s) is / are not touching the ground at all.

This is different to the low grip offered by wet surfaces in that the layer of water is typically much thinner, i.e. a film, and can easily be displaced by the tyre - the extra effort in displacing the water causes the lower grip levels, as well as a cooling effect due to the water.

With this in mind, I'm not convinced GT5 does model proper "water-borne" moments where often your only hope is to keep the controls steady until you land again. I do know that the slicks and the sports tyres offer less "grip" in extremely wet circumstances, but I wouldn't consider this aquaplaning since the car is still controllable to the finest degree, except that it's slower to respond due to the lower grip.

Aquaplaning is like driving with the wheels locked on ice (with a very high rolling resistance...), your inputs are useless - I've never had that in GT5.

THANK YOU. I wanted to point out what aquaplaning actually is until I saw your thread. This is quite a scary thing in real life, as you can do nothing once it started. It usually only lasts a split second but it is quite scary. I witnessed a Ferrari 360 spin of a racetrack due to aquaplaning hitting only one side of the car. That car spun faster than you can say "Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia" <- that is the fear of long words btw.
 
I'm pretty sure Hydroplaning exists in gt5, guys. Seriously, Try driving a GoKart in the rain @ the ring 24 Hour (Only possible in Open Lobby or My Lounge). Then tell me hydroplaning doesnt exist :lol:
 
hmm, ok I´ll take that challenge and try it. it is only aquaplaing though when you can actually turn the wheel from side to side without the front reacting at all. As Griffith said, the tire is not touching the road surface anymore, but is sliding on the water surface.

I´ll try, but I would be amazed if GT would calculate that dynamically, taking the weight of the car, the contact patch of the tire, the depth of the puddle etc. into account. I don´t think so.
 
In real life, even if you know what youre doing, it is sometimes impossible to avoid hydroplaning

It's sometimes impossible to avoid, but not uncontrollable. It's possible to get yourself out of a hydroplane if you weren't going too fast in real life.

Where you pull that percentage? outta your ass?

Heh. :lol:

Pretty much.:)
 
Try a NASCAR on Racing Hard slicks in the rain, with no driving aids...

I've been stupid enough to actually try that:ouch:
You're not the only one:
TB
NASCAR + rain = hairy. :ill:
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hmm, ok I´ll take that challenge and try it. it is only aquaplaing though when you can actually turn the wheel from side to side without the front reacting at all. As Griffith said, the tire is not touching the road surface anymore, but is sliding on the water surface.

I´ll try, but I would be amazed if GT would calculate that dynamically, taking the weight of the car, the contact patch of the tire, the depth of the puddle etc. into account. I don´t think so.

I agree, for it to be true it would occur even when not on the throttle.

there is a difference between losing traction on a wet track and true hydro/aqua planing.
 
As the tire rolls the water is pushed into the treads hydroplaning happens when the tire can't dissipate the water between the treads and a film of water is created between the road and the tire contact surface(like oil film in between 2 moving parts). Worn normal tires, sport tires have a higher chance of this. Slicks have an almost perfect chance of it because it has no treads thus its can't dissipate water. It most defiantly happens in gt5.
 
Try a NASCAR on Racing Hard slicks in the rain, with no driving aids...

I've been stupid enough to actually try that:ouch:

Bah, not as foolish as pairing nascars with comfort softs.. and then racing with others with the same setup. :lol:
 
As the tire rolls the water is pushed into the treads hydroplaning happens when the tire can't dissipate the water between the treads and a film of water is created between the road and the tire contact surface(like oil film in between 2 moving parts). Worn normal tires, sport tires have a higher chance of this. Slicks have an almost perfect chance of it because it has no treads thus its can't dissipate water. It most defiantly happens in gt5.

You're talking about lubrication. It's not the same thing to say that water acts as a satisfactory lubricant between "rubber" and "asphalt" as it is to say that oil acts as a satisfactory lubricant between polished metal surfaces.

The chemistry involved is complex in dry conditions alone, but the introduction of water changes things somewhat. If what you say is true, the faster you go, the worse it should get, to the point of suddenly completely losing control of the car - that is, your controls become ineffective.
This would appear to be for no reason other than going too fast over a film of water so as to generate sufficient pressure in the leading mass of liquid in front of and underneath the tyres, causing the car to lift off the ground...

You could try it on the "back straight" of the Nürburgring from Döttinger Höhe to Tiergarten. Keeping the car straight, it should suddenly begin to float at speed.
 
I'm pretty sure Hydroplaning exists in gt5, guys. Seriously, Try driving a GoKart in the rain @ the ring 24 Hour (Only possible in Open Lobby or My Lounge). Then tell me hydroplaning doesnt exist :lol:

The entire Special AMG Nur event in the rain is allll about Hydroplaning.
 
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