I need a street car the doesn't under or oversteer

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I love driving cars on winding race tracks, but must of the street cars I drive have one problem, understeer. I'm just looking for a street car with the good cornering of all the red bulls minus the downforce.

Cars I'v tried: xbow, caterham, Elise 111r, 300sl(surprisingly good)

Car can't be made for racing of any king
 
Alpine A110 1600S -
Oversteer on demand

Opposite lock through every corner.

But you want a neutral road car... 96 RX7 by Mazda.
 
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The '08 SRT ACR Viper handles like a dream. If you keep the throttle under control, there is no understeer or oversteer. It will slide if you push it hard, but it handles so nice. Its my main race car.
 
Ryan Sharp
I love driving cars on winding race tracks, but must of the street cars I drive have one problem, understeer. I'm just looking for a street car with the good cornering of all the red bulls minus the downforce.

Cars I'v tried: xbow, caterham, Elise 111r, 300sl(surprisingly good)

Car can't be made for racing of any king
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The bolded part does not exist. What you're probably looking for are the S2000s, RX-7/8s, Ferraris, Lambos, Rufs (not the 4wd). Lots of those kinds of cars around.
 
You might be asking for the impossible, even a car that is tuned perfectly for a particular circuit will still have elements of over/understeer at times depending on how you drive it.
 
Ryan Sharp
I'm just looking for a street car with the good cornering of all the red bulls
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Let's bare in mind that's not actually possible, no road car in the world is able to pull off such feats.

Basically, you can either handle oversteer/understeer or you can't, I suggest practicing with lower grade tires because those racing tires won't teach you much really. Depends on if you want to get better or not...

Anyway, try one of the RX7's, or an NSX, if you want a well balanced road car.

S2000's handle remarkably well too.
 
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Try a well balanced machine like the FD RX-7 and learn how to deal with understeer and oversteer through throttle inputs and fine control of the machine's balance.
 
Put grippier tyres on the front & slippyer ones on the rear. Test out what exact combo gives you the desired balance of grip.

Problem solved. 👍
 
I've been in Chicago for a while and haven't had access to gt planet. These are amazing suggestions. I think I'll go with the mazda. Feel free to continue to post your ideas.

Streeto
Let's bare in mind that's not actually possible, no road car in the world is able to pull off such feats.

Basically, you can either handle oversteer/understeer or you can't, I suggest practicing with lower grade tires because those racing tires won't teach you much really. Depends on if you want to get better or not...

Anyway, try one of the RX7's, or an NSX, if you want a well balanced road car.

S2000's handle remarkably well too.
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I agree
 
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VBR
Put grippier tyres on the front & slippyer ones on the rear. Test out what exact combo gives you the desired balance of grip.

Problem solved. 👍
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Sarcasm?

@Ryan Sharp what sort of PP are you looking for and is it something to be tuned or left alone? The Citroen C5 V6 Exclusive '03 has spectacular handling, as does the McLaren MP4-12C '10, but they're obviously very different.
 
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Most cars that under steer can be improved by a huge amount by simply stiffening the rear springs.

If a car has the springs set at
F7.00 R 6.0 and it understeers, then you would try
F 7.0 R6.75 and test drive it again.
4 wheel drive will also need an adjustable center diff. so you can move the torque percentage to the back like 25%/75% rather than 60/40.
The opposite is true for a drift car that spins out where you would stiffen the front to eliminate the over-steer and more importantly the brutal snap-back effect. Drift cars should under-steer and you initiate using the Scandinavian-Flick and throttle.
 
Ligerbots_Mr_E
Most cars that under steer can be improved by a huge amount by simply stiffening the rear springs.

If a car has the springs set at
F7.00 R 6.0 and it understeers, then you would try
F 7.0 R6.75 and test drive it again.
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No mention of alignment? I've seen a world of difference by simply copying all values over from standard to customizable but zeroing out the camber and resetting the rear toe to the pre-v1.09 +0.20 value.
 
Yep, the increased rear toe locks the rear down too much. There are also some lower diff. settings that settle down a car that gets slap-happy on corner exits, but that may be TMI for the original poster.

Just for the record, I think the GT6 code frowns on different compound tires on the F&R. I will only use that trick when I get locked into a loaner car in a seasonal event, even though it's a valid theory in real life.
 
Mind you staggered compounds are forced in the GTO time rally. I avoid it, as it can cause problems when tire wear is present--I just assume modify my driving to compensate for understeer/oversteer tendencies.
 
What I will probably do is take all this advise and build a car around it. But I'll need a lot more information

You guys have been a great help. I appreciate it

TexRex
Mind you staggered compounds are forced in the GTO time rally. I avoid it, as it can cause problems when tire wear is present--I just assume modify my driving to compensate for understeer/oversteer tendencies.
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Sometimes when I can't control a car, I don't modify how I drive it. But I just turn on driving aids. Only for emergencies though

TexRex
Sarcasm?

@Ryan Sharp what sort of PP are you looking for and is it something to be tuned or left alone? The Citroen C5 V6 Exclusive '03 has spectacular handling, as does the McLaren MP4-12C '10, but they're obviously very different.
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I don't want anything too boing so I'm going to go with 600 pp as a minimum
 
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^ Please do not quadruple post. That is what the "Edit" button is for.

Anyway, my recommendation to you? Over 600pp? I'd say the GT by Citroen Road Car (which is slightly under), OR the Dodge Viper ACR (which is also slightly under 600pp).
 
DolHaus
You might be asking for the impossible, even a car that is tuned perfectly for a particular circuit will still have elements of over/understeer at times depending on how you drive it.
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I drive a bendy bus that handles pretty neutral. Then it rains and the front understeers and the rear oversteers. 800 lb torque.
 
Ryan Sharp
I don't want anything too boing so I'm going to go with 600 pp as a minimum
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That limits your choices when it comes to road cars. I recommend a 20-25 drop and look into the Tommykaira ZZII '00 (572/579pp before and after oil change, respectively) or the aforementioned MP4 at 578pp before oil change. Either Huayra is fine out of corners but has a tendency to push quite a bit on corner entry.
 
Try the 1st c6 z06 vette, '04 methinks (50/50 weight distribution is what you are looking for.)
Put comfort hard tyres on it and abs [off]. If that's "too boring" turn on the rain.
 
For me the premium M5 is the probably the more neutral car in stock form.
 
DolHaus
a car that is tuned perfectly for a particular circuit will still have elements of over/understeer at times depending on how you drive it.
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Sounds Neutral. Go in hot with too much lock & understeer, but go in hot and give too much throttle oversteer. Very predictable and easy to push.

@OP If your looking for a Neutral car there are many. If your looking for a street car car to handle like an X1 you wont find anything remotely close with or without downforce.

A great car that i think may interest you is the NSX Type-R
 
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