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I'm quite new to GT drifting and I have a few problems.

1: When I drift (trying to at least) the car slides out of the track or it goes att top speed to the inside of the corner. Any1 got any hints to help me prevent those misstakes?

2: Witch is best to drift with? a wheel or the dualshock?
In case of the dualshock. the buttons or the "joystick"?

3: witch car is the best to learn drifting with? the cars I use (try) to drift with now are: Toyota Sprinter Trueno SS something version, Honda NSX prototype, and mazda BP falken rx-7.

Thx for your help! :)
 
1 Less power, more throttle control; not flat out, angle control, more grippier tyres.

2. I would use joystick. And I dunno about wich one.....I have DFP, and had MAJOR problems with learning how to drift it....so dont buy the DFP for drifting as it can be a real turn off:scared:

3 Use a normal RX-7, or Nissan Silvia.....doesn't matter what kind of. N1 tyres, and if you buy in used car lot, give it a chassis regidity upgrade..
 


I don't think I need less power on the NSX (witch I drift most with) the only engine tuning on it is raceing muffler and sport chip. for tyres i use N2. And I personaly thinks that it's quite hard to do a throttle control with the dualshock. It's either Full throttle or none at all. Thx for for the car hint but I'll think that I'll stick around with my NSX. So don't mind Q #3. :)
 
Practice is the only real way to master anything. Or at the least get a handle on it.

1. I don't entirely get what you're saying, all I can figure is, you're either spining out of control by any
and/or of the following, too much throttle and/or too little countersteer and/or going too fast and/or going too
slow (causing spinouts) or you're understeering by either letting the car regain grip quicker than you would want to
by countersteering too early or letting of the throttle too early, or something of the two, or letting the revs drop, etc. The only real
way to nail down a proper drift with any car on any track is to just pratice, and to keep up with it.

2. It's down to what you want, the DS2 to my experience has been easier, but I find it more rewarding to drift with the DFP
as for me, far as grip or drift, it's a tool I've found to concentrait more (least as far as GT4, GT3 is a different story as I'm
very good with the DS2, drift or grip), bu that's mainly on expreince, time and commitment. I've spent the most of it
on GT4 with the DFP, so I would feel it's the better choice, but it's down to what you want and how much you're willing
to train on and whatnot.

3. It matters on one end, not really on another. Most RL 'drift' cars are Nissan Silvias (K or Q, also the 180/200/240SX, S13, S14 and S15
models), a given RX-7 (FC, FD, etc), some BMW's and Corvette's I've found to be driftable (Z06 for the vette and the M3 be it normal,
CSL or GTR, also the M5 which is tail happy to no end and also a car you honeslty have to concentrait to keep on the strait and
narrow on N2's :D), I've found I could drift the Ford GT on N3's.

A good car though would be a typical cheap JDM-ish car like some of the mentioned, also the AE86 Trueno, the NSX can also be dritable,
same for the SW20 (MR2) although they are tricky due to the fact they are MR, but more so for the SW20 to my experiene (same for the newer
ZW30), the NSX is well behaved untill you do throw around the weight, and if so, get ready to not spin out into a wall.

But really, almost any car can be good for drfting, it's to what you want, how you set up a car, yada blah yack, but mostly practice, practice, practice, becuase I could tell you just how to do it, but the only real way is to find out for yourself. Try a bone stock car like say an S15 around Trial mountain or Tsukaba, even Suzuka full and just try and send it sideways again, agaian, and again.

My take on it anyway.

Till later.
 
Try using the brake and throttle with the right analog stick. I't much more precise than pressing the buttons.
 
R_Riders.
ok my description wasn't the best, but that's the best description I can give you without talking Swedish. I'll try once agian: when I try to initiate a drift the car ider slides almost straight forward, or it goes straight for the inside. But I've learnd now that practice is the only way. To bad that I don't have too many hours a day to play GT4. Or maybe it's because I'm lazy. But I will try to find more time to play GT4 :) . And I will practice and practice untill i can drift sucsessfully.

Greycap:
I think you missunderstod me. I meant for steering and not brakeing. sry if I was to unclear.
 
Well another option is it might because of drive-train. I dunno exactly how MR cars handle differently, but I thought they were less responsive. That would mean, that you would drift more low angled corners rather than in FR cars. I would recommend you a Silvia for shure, tune it to 270BHP otherwise, and then N1 or N2 tyres. What helps to stop it going out of the corner, is letting the angle increase by a quick tap on the normal brakes. With the Silvia this braking works really well I think.

Throttle control is not meant as smooth, it's meant as carefull...so you can just tap a bit on the accel button instead of pressing it all the way.

Practice is the way to feel this, and get better timing, cause when I think of it, THAT could be your problem too. So yeah, you can read all of my talk, but it's always better to learn on your own, it helps develop your style:tup: It's really necesarry. And it ALWAYS pays off:tup:
 
alright...to start off...none of those cars, practice stock drifting first in arcade mode with TCS off and asm off too (all at 0) and use either a silvia s15 and or silvia s13
 
kruLL
Greycap:
I think you missunderstod me. I meant for steering and not brakeing. sry if I was to unclear.
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I know you meant steering, but if throttle control is a problem, that might help a bit.
 
ok thx for all your hints and tips guys. I'm starting to get a hang of it now. I've actually done 4-5 OK drifts ;)
 
Wow, All over the place man.

Ok. Let's see where we can start of.

Firstly, check out this thread.
TankSpanker's Drift Guide
This will help out a lot in understanding what's going on. From your description it is not very clear since I'm not sure what car and track you're using. NSXs and MR2s are great drift cars but it's not easy to learn them since they behave very differently from FR cars. I would suggest that you follow TankSpanker's Setting for the Mazda Miata MX-5 and try out again. Watch your entry speed as well as your throttle. If you need more help you can PM me or MSN me.

Secondly, the reason for us to suggest you to use a lower powered car is because you will be able to learn a lot from it. You can see how the car sits and behave from before to after the drift. It's also more controllable and more forgiving. Tank's setting for the Miata is very good for learning. I used his setting and max out the power once I am able to get all the corners drifted properly. Another car you can try would be Sheron's Suzuki Cappucinno. Yes it's a very slow car, but trust me, I learn a lot from this car.

Thirdly, Yes practise is important, but more importantly is the consistency of the environment. What I mean by this is, use the same car on the same track until you can nail it down. Once you're confident, move up to a new level. You can practise a few laps per day, no problem, but you need to practise.

Well, once you're stable, we can move on to the next step, which is adapting the car to your preferences.

Oh, to answer some of your question.
1. Take things slowly and carefully. Think of drifting as an artform which is flowing and you will get the idea. If you've seen TopGears review on the Vauxhall Monaro VXR, you'll understand.

2. Again, it's up to you. Which one is more comfortable for you? I use the joystick for steering (which takes a while to get used to) and the buttons for throttle and braking.

3. All cars are driftable, but it would be better we start learning using a lower powered car so that you can spend more concentration on learning instead of fighting the cars around.

p.s. Practise by using photomode so you won't need to race anyone and there's no rush.

Good luck.
 

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