I saw the Saab 9-2X today.

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I drove by the Saab dealer today and, sitting up in front, was a nice, new black 2005 Saab 9-2X.

Interesting to me is that when the new 9-3 came out, I said it looked exactly like the Subaru Legacy, even though it wasn't based on it. Well, the 9-2X doesn't just look like the Impreza, which it's based on, it is an Impreza, but with a Saab grille.

The people at Saab strike me as similar to President Clinton (odd since he's got a Volvo) - a quality product, but with no backbone. After seeing the 9-7X, which is simply a Chevrolet Trailblazer with a Saab grille and now this, it completely turns me off to this company - how could Saab management just let this happen?

When Saab got purchased by General Motors, everyone said they were going to just be another GM company like Buick and Pontiac - and I said all of those people were jackasses. Actually, I'm the jackass - I've clearly been proven wrong. GM has the power to turn everything into another platform-sharing cost-cutting marque - no wonder Oldsmobile got the dish.

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Standard engine? Why, that's Subaru's 165bhp 2.5L flat four. Optional engine? The WRX's 227bhp 2.0L flat four turbo. Drivetrain? Full-time all-wheel drive, a first for Saab.

Totally absurd. :rolleyes:
 
Why mix Saab and Subaru workings? If people wanted Subaru engines they would go buy a Subaru. If people wanted Saab design or safety they would go buy a Saab.

Ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by kart racer
Looks good.To bad SAAB is not sold in Canada.
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I don't know where you've been hiding, but Saabs have always been sold in Canada...

Why mix Saab and Subaru workings? If people wanted Subaru engines they would go buy a Subaru. If people wanted Saab design or safety they would go buy a Saab.
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Because Saab is almost bankrupt. They're also owned by General Motors. Subaru is owned in part by GM, too. Simple brand sharing to reduce costs for both manufacturers, while allowing Saab to get a new car to sell to the American market.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock


Because Saab is almost bankrupt. They're also owned by General Motors. Subaru is owned in part by GM, too. Simple brand sharing to reduce costs for both manufacturers, while allowing Saab to get a new car to sell to the American market.
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Kinda like the new Volvo (Ford) S40 👎
 
Originally posted by PunkRock

Because Saab is almost bankrupt. They're also owned by General Motors. Subaru is owned in part by GM, too. Simple brand sharing to reduce costs for both manufacturers, while allowing Saab to get a new car to sell to the American market.
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I actually agree with him. Last week Saab announced that they were moving North American headquarters from Atlanta to Detroit so they could be with General Motors. Since GM's got loads of money, why can't they bail out Saab with Saab's own products? Clearly both Subaru and Saab have an established fan base - why combine the two? It gives Saab owners a lower quality product, and it gives Subaru owners less uniqueness.
 
Stiil, Subarus are high quality and relatively good priced, I don't see why anyone except a die-hard Saab enthusiast would by the SAABuru over the Impreza.
 
the saab 92x is an impreza with better interior and expensive car looks. its a more refined car. critics for the impreza has been taken care in the saab 92x, so if you want the best impreza (not the fastest) look for your saab dealer.
 
Originally posted by MazKid
Stiil, Subarus are high quality and relatively good priced, I don't see why anyone except a die-hard Saab enthusiast would by the SAABuru over the Impreza.
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In fact, I think a Saab fan would be less inclined to buy the 9-2X because it's just a re-tooled Subaru rather than a 'true Saab.' The way Saab's going, the next 9-5 is just going to be a slightly restyled Malibu.
 
There is no dearler out here in Saskatchewan.I didn't think they were anywhere else.
 
There's no Saab dealer in Saskatchewan for the same reason there's no Saab dealer in North Dakota - you people would rather buy Ford pickups.
 
A good mate of mine worked in a Saab dealership some years ago, before the GM takeover.

Saab had a really good handle on the engineering of turbocharging - well, considering how long they've been doing it, you'd hope so - but the rest of the cars, mechanically, are very weird I can't remember specifics, but things like suspension geometry, panel mounts, were all weird.
 
If you took the Saab badges off of it, it would be every Japanafanboy's dream: the unholy union between WRX and Evo.

And the old 900 Turbo used to be one of the coolest cars ever. Cooler even than David Byrne in that New York intellectual snob sort of way.
 
Nobody is cooler than David Byrne. Brian Eno comes close, but he doesn't get the cigar.

I can't think of a Saab that grabs my attention, or that I would ever consider looking at as a good car. I enjoy stereotypes when they are true, and Saab drivers are the snobbiest drivers this side of Volvo drivers.

How was the 900 Turbo cool? Did it ever have more than 150 hp? I suppose the early '80 versions looked cool, but that's about it.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
for the same reason there's no Saab dealer in North Dakota - you people would rather buy Ford pickups.
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Um, North Dakota's not just rednecks and their pickup trucks. Besides, Ford's suck.
 
Brian Eno can dunk over David Byrne any time. Did you pick up My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts yet? Coolest album ever, in that intellectual anti-snob sort of way.

Saab 900 Turbos were übercool before anybody ever used the word "über". Then Saabs got popular with the people who would grow up to have Abercrombie kids one day, and they started to suck.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
I can't remember specifics, but things like suspension geometry, panel mounts, were all weird.
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It's true - and they identified with quirky buyers and created a fan base because of it. In the 1980s, Saab owners used to wave at each other as they passed on the street - the same connection (though not on the same scale) lives on today.

How was the 900 Turbo cool? Did it ever have more than 150 hp? I suppose the early '80 versions looked cool, but that's about it.
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Yeah - by the early 1990s (that design was cancelled in 1993) it had a 160bhp 2.0L 4-cylinder turbo and a 175-horsepower version of the same engine. The next design, which preceeded the 9-3 but with the same bodystyle, went from 1994 to 1998 and had several engines of more than 150bhp.

Anyway, the 900 Turbos were quick, and they handled. And they had character up the ass, which goes back to my first point in this post.

Um, North Dakota's not just rednecks and their pickup trucks. Besides, Ford's suck.
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Yes it is. :odd:
 
WTF, I'm tired of this "cross platform" crap. :irked: Design your own crap don't go an rebadge someone elses car. There's a reason that there is more than one car company. :odd:
 
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HAHAHA saabaru
could it be compition to a wrx?
I actiually like(d) some of the saab sedans
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No, not really. Its a bit more refined than the WRX they added more sound deadening material to it, along with some other creature comforts (probably). I thought I saw it at roughly 3600 pounds, about 500 pounds more than a base model WRX. But I also saw somewhere that the steering ratio was something like 13:1, rather than WRXs 16 or 17 something.
 

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