It's entirely probable that I haven't spent enough time with GT5P. I've had the game since it came out and beat the first two classes with a controller...then I didn't play for a long time and recently picked up a G27...and theres still 5 class A events left and I seem pretty hopeless. I sat down yesterday and figured I'd start trying to get the hang of drifting but I quickly realized I should probably learn to drive first...period. At this point A8 seems impossible even to get 3rd since I can't manage to place at all. I suppose I could give it a shot with a controller again but I'm pretty determined to get the hang of gt physics with the wheel before the final game comes out. It probably also doesn't help that I just spent like two weeks playing GRiD, the transition from which is absolutely awful.