I wonder.

[Diablomonkey]

Not sure if anyone has noticed but I haven't been on here in a while. The main reason for this is work and my car. Work kinda sucks but its money, I would like to do something different but I'm not in a good position to find a new job. Also I have my car that seems to take up a lot of my time. I am now also on a drift oriented team called Battle House, These guys are great and I have noticed a change in my self for the better from just hanging out with them. On the 6th I had my 3ed drift event and it has left me wanting to get better. The thing that sucks is that the next event isn't till the 11 of JULY. I want to get better so bad it hurts that I have to wait that long and I feel like I will lose what I have learned from the last event and have to remember what it was that I needed to improve on. I have found my self thinking about street drifting and I am not proud of it.

 

[GTO_VR4]

Looks like you had fun, what kind of tires were you using?

 

[Joey D]

I suggest if you want to keep your car and your license you stop drifting on the street. If you must do it in a public place at least find an empty parking lot at night with no chance of you damaging your vehicle or someone's property.

 

[Omnis]

I thought you weren't allowed to talk about illegal stuff. Please stop street drifting god forbid you kill someone.

 

[McLaren]

2 people have already expressed my own views on street drifting, so I'll just say that it looks like a lot fun getting a chance to learn how to drift on the track. I don't think we have any drift days here.

 

[KAMKA-Z]

All you need to do is break a rim and bend the suspension on a curb. That ought to get you over wild driving on public roads real quick.

 

[Diablomonkey]

Looks like you had fun, what kind of tires were you using?

I use Kumho ECSTA AST. They are cheap for a 195/50/15 its like $50 a tire. And I can get them mounted for $10 each. If I had discount tire do it they would want about $175-200.

I thought you weren't allowed to talk about illegal stuff

STREET DRIFTING IS BAD! I AGREE!!!
Theoretically IF I where to street drift it when there are no other drivers/people around. The last thing I want to do is have people see someone doing it and give the sport a bad name. IF I where to street drift I WOULD go on back roads where there it nothing but trees to hit or ditches to fall in to...

Is that better?

 

[Joey D]

No it's not better, public roads are for driving within a set limit not for your to out and think you are cool by sliding your car around. You don't have control over your environment when on any public road. And don't worry about giving drifters a bad name, they already have one for the same shenanigans you are pulling right now...way to just keep on proving to people that drifters are bad.

 

[Muzaffar]

Well I don't know about you, but like many has said, don't ever street drift unless it is being organized by some event or do it at your own risk. Heck, drifting in a track day is better than street drift. If you really want to take a big risk and not hurt anybody, just break into any local go kart circuit/track and just drift!!! I'm going to get started into drifting once I get a car and a license, and by then, I would just wonder........

But in a way, its unfair to not have a circuit anywhere which is used primarily for drifting and that there is never a free circuit where you can just enter at any time and do whatever you want there. Because of that, people would start doing illegal races on the street.... 👎

 

[Keef]

Nah, you won't forget a thing if you're really passionate about it. I'd never even seen a go-kart in person before I drove that thing but I got out on the track and owned it like I'd sat in a kart before and had seen the track before. I don't do my best driving until I'm really challenged. It's like a switch that turns on while you're sitting at the start line.

None of use want to hear about you drifting on the street. It's bad and obviously illegal. And plus, there's lots of stuff to run into.

 

[Revolution.]

And don't worry about giving drifters a bad name, they already have one for the same shenanigans you are pulling right now...way to just keep on proving to people that drifters are bad.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but unless I'm missing something, he's only been thinking about street drifting? IE, not actually doing any?

 

[Diablomonkey]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but unless I'm missing something, he's only been thinking about street drifting? IE, not actually doing any?

I had to EDIT my first post because it violated the AUP... and some people don't understand what I am trying to convey. And if I remember right I didn't ask for others opinion on the whole thing nor was I looking to have it turn in to a bash fest. To be honest I don't care what you think about me doing what I do and there is nothing that you can say that will make me change my ways. There are circumstances that have made me resort to doing certain things. I do go to the track but as mentioned in the first post the events are really spaced out, its not like in California where there are events every weekend. I just think its kinda messed up that everyone had to go a tirade about this and I was just trying to say HEY I DIDN"T DIE, and was trying to show others that I found something that I love WAY more than forum.

And don't worry about giving drifters a bad name, they already have one for the same shenanigans you are pulling right now...way to just keep on proving to people that drifters are bad.

You know drifting is getting its start just as drag racing did. Back then when they started to hold events at tracks out of harms way but people still raced on the street and they still do. Its one of those things that most people like your self that cant seem to wrap there little brains around. Yes its bad, no you shouldn't do it and you can say that all day long but because you say that it makes others what to do it more. Just like when you where a little kid and wanted a cookie really bad and your mom/dad said no, you didn't just say ok, you tried to get one while there where not looking.

 

[Slicks]

Note to Joey:
You sound like a broken record.

It seems like every time someone on GTP mentions racing, drifting, or speeding excessively on the street (Whether it's them doing it, or thinking about it, or that they were riding shotgun, etc) that you're right there to scold them and announce that it's bad and that we absolutely shouldn't be doing it because we're going to crash and kill people.

We know it's illegal. We know that it should be kept to the track. That's why most of us don't do it, or at minimum don't do it often.

So get off his back, and wait until your opinion on the subject is solicited.

 

[Joey D]

And if I remember right I didn't ask for others opinion on the whole thing nor was I looking to have it turn in to a bash fest. To be honest I don't care what you think about me doing what I do and there is nothing that you can say that will make me change my ways.

You posted something on the internet and you expect people to just agree with you and tell you how awesome it is? If you put that sort of information out there people will criticize you for it.

There are circumstances that have made me resort to doing certain things. I do go to the track but as mentioned in the first post the events are really spaced out, its not like in California where there are events every weekend. I just think its kinda messed up that everyone had to go a tirade about this and I was just trying to say HEY I DIDN"T DIE, and was trying to show others that I found something that I love WAY more than forum.

That's an awful excuse...they don't have a place I can safely and legally do it so I have to go out and risk my life and the lives of others to do something that's nothing more then a hobby. Makes no sense.

You know drifting is getting its start just as drag racing did. Back then when they started to hold events at tracks out of harms way but people still raced on the street and they still do. Its one of those things that most people like your self that cant seem to wrap there little brains around. Yes its bad, no you shouldn't do it and you can say that all day long but because you say that it makes others what to do it more. Just like when you where a little kid and wanted a cookie really bad and your mom/dad said no, you didn't just say ok, you tried to get one while there where not looking.

What can't I wrap my brain around? The fact that your are doing something illegal, dangerous, and stupid? If you are going to continue your behaviour I do hope you find yourself in trouble with the law before you hurt someone else.

Note to Joey:
You sound like a broken record.

It seems like every time someone on GTP mentions racing, drifting, or speeding excessively on the street (Whether it's them doing it, or thinking about it, or that they were riding shotgun, etc) that you're right there to scold them and announce that it's bad and that we absolutely shouldn't be doing it because we're going to crash and kill people.

We know it's illegal. We know that it should be kept to the track. That's why most of us don't do it, or at minimum don't do it often.

So get off his back, and wait until your opinion on the subject is solicited.

If you don't want opinions on things do be posting on the internet. You are going to get opinions whether you want it or not. A majority of threads do that here on GTP, either accept it or don't post.

And the reason I jump on people is because I do want to hear about someone dying because they thought it would be cool to take a corner sideways, drag race the idiot next to them, or try to drive a twisty road at double the speed limit. It's illegal and it does violate the AUP when it comes down to it.

 

[niky]

If you want practice...

Go karting.

A go kart is an excellent platform to practice drift techniques, countersteering and corner approaches. Obviously, it's a lot easier in a go-kart, but you don't have any good alternatives.

If you really need to practice in your car, why not go to the track? How much is rental, and what are local track regs about "drifting"? Do they frown upon intentional sliding? Otherwise, are there any large parking areas locally that you can rent out when they're not busy?

"Drifting" on the street is bad, but not just for the reason that it is illegal. Varying street conditions mean that grip is not as predictable as it is on track. Run-off area isn't quite as well marked-out or remotely as generous as on a race-track. If you have even halfway decent tires, you've got way too much grip to "drift" at legal speeds. Want to drift legally? Put on some really cheap tires and go out and drive in a muddy field. No excess speed. No citations from cops. Nuthin. You'll be going sideways before you can even bat an eye.

That's actually a serious suggestion. Learning how to drive your car with no grip at low speeds is good preparation for learning how to drift... well, actually, good instruction in car-control. It's even better in the snow, but probably none at this time of the year. Ever wonder why so many world champions are Finns?

 

[socomplayer2]

Parking lots work real good for practice. Just make sure they are empty and no one is around to see because it is a good way to get into trouble. I don't really have to worry about drifting because I have a front wheel drive car.

 

[Muzaffar]

Don't know if this helps or not but.........

Why not you join some drift competitions there? Its a great way for you to learn drifting and even do some tandem runs as well as winning some cash!!!! 👍 I was thinking of joining a competition when I get my license and have a cheap RWD car in the near future and try to compete in the amateur tournaments here and have some first hand experience before stepping up with the big boys.

Also, try to find a drift community forum like I did and try to discuss there. I'm sure they will be happy to help you out and even join some sessions around here. The forum that I joined had a lot of information on drifting and the community there is well supported. (although I haven't posted there much, but I do still go there as a lurker. )

http://www.drift.com.my/forum/portal.php

 

[Diablomonkey]

I go to every event I can. The problem is that they are only put on once a month. Here you have to have a full roll cage to do tandem. At my skill level I don't even qualify for the top 16. In my area the drift scene is hard to get in to, its small and very intense. Almost everyone at the track has been doing it for about 4 years and its rare to see repeat new drivers, most of the new guys show up for 2 events and quit. And even the guys who have been doing it for years take it on the streets.

 

[Muzaffar]

I go to every event I can. The problem is that they are only put on once a month. Here you have to have a full roll cage to do tandem. At my skill level I don't even qualify for the top 16. In my area the drift scene is hard to get in to, its small and very intense. Almost everyone at the track has been doing it for about 4 years and its rare to see repeat new drivers, most of the new guys show up for 2 events and quit. And even the guys who have been doing it for years take it on the streets.

Ouch.

Well its basically the same here in Malaysia, but I think the drift scene here is much more active in recent years than most people think. There is always a local drift event being held somewhere here every month and (depending on what type of event) there will be many people coming to the event. 👍 But wow, very little support from the community? That is just sad........

Have you tried going to other drift events in other states yet? I'm sure there will be better drift scenes there. (with even amateur comps) If I were you I would probably go there with some buddies and have a good time no matter how much the cost is......

 

[Diablomonkey]

In the north west area the community is more focused on NASCAR and could care less about us, at least thats how I felt after I went to an event at Pacific Raceways and the NASCAR make up races where apparently more important. We where even scheduled to run on that given day for weeks in advance. At one point it was raining and the NASCAR guys don't run in the rain so they asked us if we would help dry the track so THEY could race on the track, needless to say everyone told them to GO SUCK A D*CK...

Yes there are events in other states like Oregon but they are held on Thursdays and I have no clue why. To me it doesn't make any scene to run an event in the middle of the week when people have school/work. The events in the seattle area are on the first friday of every month and for me its like pulling teeth to get off early to get to the track on time. I don't make much money at the place I work now and taking days off hurts my paycheck badly. Another down side to going to an event thats 200 miles way is that if you break it is going to be very costly to get your car home.

 

[Muzaffar]

Wow..... thats got to hurt. Must be lucky for me to still be in school and have a free time chasing my dream and be lucky enough for my place to have such a following. But I know what you mean with your work and having to go to the events at the same time, its going to happen to me as well..... But yeah, I can't really decide if I want to make a living as a professional drifter, which is fun to do, but it will hurt you in the long run and if you not good enough, might as well end your career. On the other hand, I could just get a job and do these as a hobby, which would be okay for a normal person, but then you will be so far behind everyone else.

Also, I might not even be lucky as you to start my drifting career with a S13. Might go the old school root and buy a VW Beetle (which, *don't laugh at me* I'm going to prove that it could!) or maybe an old Toyota Corolla (not the AE86, but its distant cousin, the KE70. A popular car to use here for drifting.) or any old car within my cheap starting budget at 500US$. Don't ask why I can't afford those 90's Japanese cars, cause they are highly valuable here. I mean, a normal S13 could be as much as 3000+US$ and FB/FC Mazdas at 2000+US$. (and a new drift car is out of the question!)

Anyways, back to your reply. Maybe your just unlucky that your place never caught up with the drifting/import scene. Maybe you should try to work hard enough (or dare I say it, change jobs) and try to move out and live somewhere like California. (I must be mad.....) Then again, maybe you can gather up with some local drifters and get the city council to make some "drift days" near your area available. Also, maybe parking lot drifting ain't so bad as street drifting...... try getting any approval from the mall or try finding an abandoned parking lot and drift there (if there is such as place..... )

 

[Legendary]

I haven't been in this thread at all but to Joey D I would just like to point something out.

His favourite quote says "Do what you will today because you could wake up dead tomorrow."

I agree with this and it seems to fit with his situation. He could get hit by a bus tomorrow and die regretting that he never drifted on the streets or something against the law for a bit of fun and to gain some skill.

So Joey D if you apply this to the situation, then you really need to think about what your saying.
I guess it is against the law and he shouldn't do it but like a said he could get hit by a bus. Even if he does it once then he should be fine. Maybe once between each event or just a one off.

So i think that Diablomonkey should do it if he feels he needs to.👍

 

[F1GTR]

I agree with this and it seems to fit with his situation. He could get hit by a bus tomorrow and die regretting that he never drifted on the streets or something against the law for a bit of fun and to gain some skill.

He could hit a kerb, bend a rim, flip over three times and kill a few other drivers while street drifting. He'll feel more than simply regret.

 

[Legendary]

He could hit a kerb, bend a rim, flip over three times and kill a few other drivers while street drifting. He'll feel more than simply regret.

Thats a good point but i still agree with him.

 

[niky]

@Diablomonkey: Even if the regulars are already doing it, doesn't make it legal. Or safe. Let's just focus on what you can do legally for practice.

 

[McLaren]

I haven't been in this thread at all but to Joey D I would just like to point something out.

His favourite quote says "Do what you will today because you could wake up dead tomorrow."

I agree with this and it seems to fit with his situation. He could get hit by a bus tomorrow and die regretting that he never drifted on the streets or something against the law for a bit of fun and to gain some skill.

It really doesn't fit this situation. The quote was never meant to be used in a condition where the actions could ironically have caused the death of the person that day instead of the next.

Besides, why would you regret not street drifting? I'm pretty sure there are a thousand other things you could regret not doing that are better than street drifting.

 

[Legendary]

HE might regret it because it is what he wants to do. I certainly wouldn't regret it, but I'm not sure if he wouldn't.

 

[Joey D]

You misunderstood my quote. I'm talking about not have legitimate regrets in ones life such as going on the holiday you've always wanted to or going to a concert or something to that effect. It doesn't apply to bonehead moves that have a good chance of killing you or someone else...if you die in the process you have failed the motto.

 

[Legendary]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ok then.