I'm having a few difficulties with my PC

[Thiele]

Okay, i am having a few problems; this has happened for ages, but after my computer has been on without a reboot for more than a couple of hours, all of my programs start to not work, i often see something like this:

or the one that says "application error". This is not too bad i just have to reboot the computer, but i do get the occasional Blue Screen of Death.

This is what happened the other day, i was using Firefox, and it crashed, so i closed it and tried to re-open it, but i got that application error message (sorry no pic) So i tried to open task manager by pressing CTRL ALT DEL, but that also got the error. I had just about had enough, so i went to turn off the computer, just before i got to the start menu, the screen went black and i was greeted with a BSoD something like this:

*** STOP 0x0000007a KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR (i didn't get the rest of it)

I also got one a while ago like this:

*** STOP 0x0000007a IRLQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (i can't remember the code or the rest of it)

If anyone has an idea why this might be happening i would like to know, thanks.

 

[DQuaN]

Blue Screen is normally due to hardware failure. Have you added anything to your computer recently?

Make sure you have a decent and up to date antivirus and antispyware.

 

[Solid Fro]

Memory.

 

[Thiele]

Blue Screen is normally due to hardware failure. Have you added anything to your computer recently?

Make sure you have a decent and up to date antivirus and antispyware.

Everything on my PC is stock with the original hardware that came with it. My antivirus (AVG) is up to date. My anti-spyware is about due for an update though. Also my PC is about 3 years old.

Memory.

Possibly.

I also heard that a reinstall of windows is necesary every now and again, we've had this PC for 3 years but i have a feeling windows was reinstalled a couple of years ago when we last had major problems. I may be wrong though....

 

[Sniffs]

first, Outlook gives it away RIGHT NOW. apparently, OE attracts every bug on the net

Second: update that virus and spyware scanner now! I have found you have to run each program at LEAST every couple-three DAYS, and all the definitions at LEAST once a week to keep it up to date. I've had problems with plain old tracking cookies killing my comp.

third:if you've tried everything with software, go with these guy's reccomendations and check the hardware, too.

fourth: Filehippo (look it up, it automatically gives you updates and betas for every program you have). check your windows updates, too.

 

[Thiele]

I looked at the Event Viewer and found this:

"The device, \Device\Harddisk2\D, has a bad block.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

I'm not sure if that is related or not, but bad sectors scare me.
Edit: I found another 4 of them.

Also, there's about a million of these:

"An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

Here's the info on the BS:

"Error code 0000007a, parameter1 e27fa808, parameter2 c000009a, parameter3 bf8f8c1f, parameter4 06ae9860.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

 

[Sprite]

I personally would run a check-disk (Scan Disk) and repair all the bad sectors and see if that helps, how often do you de-frag? because if you sometimes de-frag your pc without running check-disk first it can mess it up. but as said BSOD is usually a hardware problem.

 

[Thiele]

I personally would run a check-disk (Scan Disk) and repair all the bad sectors and see if that helps, how often do you de-frag? because if you sometimes de-frag your pc without running check-disk first it can mess it up. but as said BSOD is usually a hardware problem.

I have actually never defragged i don't think.

EDIT: Another thing i should mention is a couple of times i got that application error with winlogon.exe - Not Good. As soon as i click OK, it closes winlogon and i get the BS again.

 

[G.T]

Do what Sprite says and see if XP fixes those bad sectors... it's possibly why you're getting issues since your computer maybe needing to read or write something from one of those sectors and crashing because it can't read/write to it... If it doesn't fix it then there's a likely hardware problem, unless you can fully format the drive...

And yes, do what everyone else has said as well: run anti-virus and spyware scanners, and I suggest running CCleaner to see what that cleans up:

http://www.ccleaner.com/

 

[Thiele]

Thanks for the help guys, i'm doing a spyware check now. I also found what i think is details of when winlogon crashed:

"Faulting application winlogon.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module winmm.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x0000c1a9.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."

 

[GT3mich]

Memory.

I'd be looking at the memory as well.

 

[Thiele]

I'd be looking at the memory as well.

Yeah, i might get all the hardware checked. A few weeks ago, the computer wouldn't turn on and all i got was the power light, the fans but the HDD wouldn't boot instead the Disk light came on and stayed on. It just started working again by itself after a couple of days though. I have a feeling the HDD might be on it's way out though.

 

[Thiele]

Gah! As soon as i started up, tried to go to GTP:



This isn't too bad, because i just restarted and it worked fine, but it is annoying having to restart so often.

Also, i did some research on the BS i got:

Error code 0000007a, parameter1 e27fa808, parameter2 c000009a, parameter3 bf8f8c1f, parameter4 06ae9860.

Frequently, you can determine the cause of the KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR bug check from the error status (Parameter 2). Some common status codes include the following:

* 0xC000009A, or STATUS_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES, indicates a lack of nonpaged pool resources.

I'm not sure exactly what that means, but that looks like the problem.

 

[Sprite]

From your last post it looks like defiantly hardware, to be more specific the hardrive and memory. So I did a bit of checking and found this bit of info.

LINK 01

also MS have this to say

Bad block. Stop 0x77 is caused by a bad block (sector) in a paging file or a disk controller error. In extremely rare cases, it is caused when nonpaged pool resources run out.

If the first and third parameters are zero, the stack signature in the kernel stack was not found. This error is caused by defective hardware. If the I/O status is C0000185 and the paging file is on a SCSI disk, the disk cabling and SCSI termination needs to be checked for problems.

Viruses. In addition, check your computer for viruses using any up-to-date, commercial virus scanning software that examines the Master Boot Record of the hard disk. All Windows 2000 file systems can be infected by viruses.

An I/O status code of 0xC000009C or 0xC000016A normally indicates that the data could not be read from the disk due to a bad block (sector). If you can restart the system after the error, Autochk runs automatically and attempts to map the bad sector to prevent its further use. If Autochk does not scan the hard disk for errors, you can manually start the disk scanner. Run Chkdsk /f /r on the system partition. You must restart the system before the disk scan begins. If you cannot start the system due to the error, use the Recovery Console and run Chkdsk /r .

From what I can tell, all around the net people are saying run a scandisk (chkdisk) to repair any bad sectors, because it looks like the memory is trying to wright stuff the hardrive, but it dosnt make sense as its nonpaged pool and this stuff dosnt get written anywhere. hope this bit of info helps and i hope you get it sorted soon.

 

[Thiele]

I had another outburst of errors, it just randomly happened, AVG shut down and i got 8 different errors in a row that kept coming up for about 10 minutes, luckily i managed to get a screen of every one (in order):










Every time i closed one error, the next one came up. It took me about 10 minutes before it all stopped. And that's the least of my problems, now AVG won't work and my PC's not protected.

 

[G.T]

Did you run the ChkDisk?

 

[Turbo Lag]

This is probably not good advice but, maybe check one of my old threads I made, this one. In the end, not much of the things worked. I simply ended up formatting the disc and starting fresh. It ended all the problems I had. I've so far ended up formatting the disc countless times, and saving all my older files which I want and need onto a smaller HD which ended up in this new PC.

 

[Thiele]

Did you run the ChkDisk?

Yeah i have but what after that? It automatically closes and doesn't give me a report, does it save a report somewhere or automatically fix it?

Also when i terned off the computer i got another 10 or so of the "application error" message, here's some that i remembered:

explorer.exe
bluesoleiCS.exe (my bluetooth software)
scvhost.exe
rundll32.exe
avg[something].exe (can't remember, but something to do with AVG) EDIT: I think it was avgupscv.exe
igfxtray.exe
winampa.exe

I can't remember the others.

 

[Shannon]

Hmm... I'm just stabbing in the dark here really, but maybe your harddrive has a bad sector where the Windows pagefile is located.

Disable the pagefile, delete the C:\pagefile.sys file (it's a hidden system file so you'll need to change your folder view settings to see it), restart, and then enable the pagefile again. See if that helps.

 

[Thiele]

Hmm... I'm just stabbing in the dark here really, but maybe your harddrive has a bad sector where the Windows pagefile is located.

Disable the pagefile, delete the C:\pagefile.sys file (it's a hidden system file so you'll need to change your folder view settings to see it), restart, and then enable the pagefile again. See if that helps.

I could do that, but i only have 500MB of Ram, so i don't know if that's good or not.

 

[G.T]

Try it anyway. It's using the pagefile since your RAM isn't big enough, yes, but the pagefile may have corrupted somehow, so deleting it and letting windows create it again could possibly fix the issue.

 

[Shannon]

I could do that, but i only have 500MB of Ram, so i don't know if that's good or not.

Worst case scenario, Windows will run really slow until you re-enable the pagefile.

 

[GT4 genius]

I didnt want to start a new thread and this seems to be as close to my problem as I could find.
Recently I've noticed that my (2 year old) laptop has been running a lot slower then it use to. I've done disc defragments, clean ups, downloaded Norton 360 so as my anti-virus was up to date and it is also suppose to be an adware finder too. But I thought I should ask for advice when I seen something unusual today (for the second time) when I started the laptop a blue screen appears before windows starts at all and says it highly recommends it checks my C drive, so I let it, then it goes through 3 steps, the 2nd of which deletes files I've not heard of, and then it finishes and it starts as normal. Should I be worried, should I back up every single thing on this ASAP!
BTW its windows XP.

Thanks for any advice. 👍

 

[Thiele]

I didnt want to start a new thread and this seems to be as close to my problem as I could find.
Recently I've noticed that my (2 year old) laptop has been running a lot slower then it use to. I've done disc defragments, clean ups, downloaded Norton 360 so as my anti-virus was up to date and it is also suppose to be an adware finder too. But I thought I should ask for advice when I seen something unusual today (for the second time) when I started the laptop a blue screen appears before windows starts at all and says it highly recommends it checks my C drive, so I let it, then it goes through 3 steps, the 2nd of which deletes files I've not heard of, and then it finishes and it starts as normal. Should I be worried, should I back up every single thing on this ASAP!
BTW its windows XP.

Thanks for any advice. 👍

I'm not sure why it checks drive C sometimes and not other times.... if you use a portable HDD or flash drive when it's first turned on it checks them every time. My computer checked drive C once and i don't know why...

If it's suddenly started doing it, then there may be something wrong and i would probably back it up just in case.

 

[Turbo Lag]

Every time my old PC gets slow, I just format the C-Drive. Get yourself some external space, backup the stuff you need, and format the C-Drive. Ofcourse, only do this if you don't need much stuff left on the PC. I think it's time for me to do this to my PC again aswell.

 

[Thiele]

Every time my old PC gets slow, I just format the C-Drive. Get yourself some external space, backup the stuff you need, and format the C-Drive. Ofcourse, only do this if you don't need much stuff left on the PC. I think it's time for me to do this to my PC again aswell.

Wouldn't you have to reinstall windows too?

 

[430Scud.]

Try removing the new memory.