In Honour of Halloween

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I was looking on other forums, and found this particualr intresting story...very creepy indeed, but very long maybe 30 minutes of reading, but trust me, this is a true, and creepy story, a must read indeed. Ted, Cave story

For all who read, I've heard he last updated the site, in 01, talking about going back into the cave with friends, they never found him, he disappeared. His friends posted about him being missing, in a different forum a couple years ago. :scared:
I seriously wanna know what happened to him though.
 
Holy damn that was a creepy story...

Scariest part for me, believe it or not, was the "The Page cannot be displayed' error. I was like.. "HOLY ***" when I clicked it. It's nothing special, just a normal "The Page cannot be displayed'.. But damn... So ****ing scary! I'm thinking that if he's still alive and well, he should write novels like this... Damn... *shiver* I'm still getting chills!
 
:nervous: :nervous:

Man, I really wish I didn't read that. I'm really creeped out and really tired. I need to brush my teeth, but I really don't want to open my bedroom door. Am I a poor excuse of a 19-year-old?

I wish I knew what happened though. I mean, where is this guy?

Lets solve this. Lets go GTP PIs!

(and by us, I mean you)
 
No? its not as scary as you think but it sure is creepy, its just about 2 cavers finding a little hole in a cave and they open it up, and as soon as they started opening it weird **** started to happen, like the sound of moving rocks and screaming. Long story short, something scares the hell out of them and they were being chased out. Well the Ted guy goes back cause he keeps thinking about it, and he disappeared.
 
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No? its not as scary as you think but it sure is creepy, its just about 2 cavers finding a little hole in a cave and the they open it up, and as soon as they started opening it weird **** started to happen, like the sound of moving rocks and screaming. Long story short, something scares the hell out of them and they were being chased out. Well the Ted guy goes back cause he keeps thinking about it, and he disappeared.
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Hey nice paraphrase. Anything after Ted disappeared?
 
No but, his friends Joe, B and others try and find him, but apparantly he disappears, thats why he hasn't updated the site since 2001.
 
Okay everyone, Mr. Killjoy here, hard at work.

It's a story. A cleverly thought out and well-written one, but still fictional. But I guess it's a good one to tell on Halloween if you have some friends that are able to suspend their disbelief...
 
It's still Hallowe'en.

I go round shops with a big felt marker, putting apostrophes in their Hallowe'en signs.
 
Famine
It's still Hallowe'en.

I go round shops with a big felt marker, putting apostrophes in their Hallowe'en signs.
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Actually it's both. If you're going to be a smart ass you at least need to be smart, not just an ass.
 
Not in English it isn't. It may well be in US English, but in English it's a contraction of "All Hallow's Evening". Technically it requires an apostrophe between the W and the E as well, but as far as I'm aware it's never been written as such. E'en is the accepted English contraction of "evening", and can be seen (or se'en) in many hymns and carols.

All Hallow's Evening
->
Hallow's Evening
->
Hallow e'en.

[/etymology ends]

I'll see your "ass" and raise you two "smarts".
 
I believe the masses out rule the asses (: And if you've had to change more than you haven't had to change, the masses say Halloween is a word.

But sure, if you wanna be all "English" about it, go right ahead. I won't stand in your way. (:
 
The OED lists "Halloween" as an "alternate spelling". The OED say whether a word is a word or not, not "the masses". I've no idea who the official keepers of the American language are.

The masses of kids in our school believe that "Plz" is an English word. There's more of them than teachers. Should the teachers give up correcting it?


I will be all "English" about it, since that is both my nationality and language. I am not an American and do not speak US English. Nothing on this Earth will ever convince me to say the word "fawcett" out loud, in a sentence, in place of "tap". Similarly I will never write "Halloween" instead of "Hallowe'en".


I should just add, further to my last post, that I don't actually wish to "see your "ass"". That's just disturbing.
 
Yeah, I don't want to see my ass either - good thing it's a part of my back side. ;)

"Students : Teachers" shouldn't be the comparison. It should be "people using plz : people who think it's stupid", which I believe you end up with a much more one sided argument.

And besides, if ...

All Hallow's Evening
->
Hallow's Evening
->
Hallow e'en.
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... who's to say removing the space and dropping the apostrophe isn't the next step? Apparently it's been an evolution of simplifying the word, to which Halloween is the next logical step.
 
Wouldn't that be your "arse"?

LoudMusic
"Students : Teachers" shouldn't be the comparison. It should be "people using plz : people who think it's stupid", which I believe you end up with a much more one sided argument.
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You still end up with a majority of people believing "Plz" is acceptable against a minority who think it isn't. Just like you end up with a majority (North America) believing it is spelled "Halloween" and a minority (England - or at least English) who know it isn't.

LoudMusic
... who's to say removing the space and dropping the apostrophe isn't the next step? Apparently it's been an evolution of simplifying the word, to which Halloween is the next logical step.
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Who's to say it is?

Without the apostrophe, suddenly the word loses meaning. "Halloween" becomes a word meaning "31st October, let's all get dressed up and get some sweets", as opposed to "the evening of All Hallow's Day".

On a similar note, "Xmas" makes me shudder, but, unwittingly, at least that isn't as bad. The "X" in "Xmas" comes from the Greek letter "Chi" - the first initial in the word "Christos" and used by underground Christians in the days of yore.
 
How is Halloween not simply '31st October, let's all get dressed up and get some sweets'? And the bit about Xmas, well that's a blatant removal of Christ from the holiday. A name that suits the way the holiday is celebrated.

So maybe those people aren't celebrating the same holiday you are. Can you force them to do so? Oh wait, to follow the same traditions as the name you're using for this holiday, in England I guess you can force people to celebrate your holidays your way. But in "America" (the United States of,) we don't force people to celebrate any certain thing any certain way. So they can call it anything they want.

I guess we're back to England versus the USA. Tradition vs New Age, or something.

I say toe-may-toes, you say tah-may-toes. It's all a bunch of slimy seeds. So fur q, and the arse you rode in on (:

My biggest gripe is the huge collection of words which aren't spelled anything like they sound ... on either side of the pond.
 
Allow me to interject, if I may. The English Language is the most diverse and truly massive language in the world, and it is continuously changing and adapting. Every year new words and new spellings of words continue to be added to the enormous Oxford English Dictionary, which remains the authority on the language.

However, Famine, your scenario involving the students at the school can be taken as a metaphor for the millions who speak English (students) vs. the authority which, although still considered to have the official "last word" (that was, ahem, a pun), can not possibly keep up with the language as it is quite literally changing every day.

Therefore, you going around felt-markering signs all over the place should be teaching you that the masses have spoken, and yes, the masses are the real authority, not some 26-volume book bound in navy blue leather with a gold foil stamp on the spine.

Hallowe'en or Halloween, either is perfectly acceptable, because the latter is still spelled correctly but simply drops the SUPERFLUOUS apostrophe. And the OED still hasn't got the definition right; both words mean a night where all the little ****s who live in your neighbourhood have an excuse to run around in the street like the fools that they are, collect free candy from anyone who is unfortunate enough to own a front door, and launch toilet paper and eggs at unsuspecting and innocent homeowners at will. The entire day is a perversion of the original festival, so why not felt-marker the whole damn thing out of existence?

Plz is not a word, it is an abbreviation, and a moronic one at that. You can't compare it to dropping the " ' " in Halloween.

Now, its and it's, on the other hand, is a major problem.
 
Anderton
Allow me to interject, if I may. The English Language is the most diverse and truly massive language in the world, and it is continuously changing and adapting. Every year new words and new spellings of words continue to be added to the enormous Oxford English Dictionary, which remains the authority on the language.

However, Famine, your scenario involving the students at the school can be taken as a metaphor for the millions who speak English (students) vs. the authority which, although still considered to have the official "last word" (that was, ahem, a pun), can not possibly keep up with the language as it is quite literally changing every day.

Therefore, you going around felt-markering signs all over the place should be teaching you that the masses have spoken, and yes, the masses are the real authority, not some 26-volume book bound in navy blue leather with a gold foil stamp on the spine.

Hallowe'en or Halloween, either is perfectly acceptable, because the latter is still spelled correctly but simply drops the SUPERFLUOUS apostrophe. And the OED still hasn't got the definition right; both words mean a night where all the little ****s who live in your neighbourhood have an excuse to run around in the street like the fools that they are, collect free candy from anyone who is unfortunate enough to own a front door, and launch toilet paper and eggs at unsuspecting and innocent homeowners at will. The entire day is a perversion of the original festival, so why not felt-marker the whole damn thing out of existence?

Plz is not a word, it is an abbreviation, and a moronic one at that. You can't compare it to dropping the " ' " in Halloween.

Now, its and it's, on the other hand, is a major problem.
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You're still abbreviationg Hallowe'en when you take the apostrophe out of it. Your example of plz is abbreviating a word because of laziness; removing the apostrophe from Hallowe'en is still shortening it because of laziness. I see no fundamental difference between the two. Hell, why don't we just stop using all apostrophes just because we think that they're superfluous.

(I was taught that it was spelled "Halloween" in school, though.)
 
SublimeDood10
You're still abbreviationg Hallowe'en when you take the apostrophe out of it. Your example of plz is abbreviating a word because of laziness; removing the apostrophe from Hallowe'en is still shortening it because of laziness. I see no fundamental difference between the two. Hell, why don't we just stop using all apostrophes just because we think that they're superfluous.

(I was taught that it was spelled "Halloween" in school, though.)
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To abbreviate a word means to represent it by using a part of it. I would think that removing one or more letters from a word would create an abbreviation of that word, such as:

Mr., Mrs., Dr., etc.

But taking an apostrophe out of Halloween doesn't make it an abbreviation. It's simply another example of how the English language discards unnecessary elements. The apostrophe here, as I have already mentioned, is NOT necessary to get the whole meaning of the word, because it stands in for an unnecessary part of the whole word (check Famine's post). The same situation occurs with words like don't, can't, and won't; the apostrophe stands in for one or more letters. But it's not called an abbreviation, it's called a contraction.

So I guess if you wanted to get technical, you could say Hallowe'en is a contraction of the original form. But here, since few people actually know (and even fewer actually care) what the apostrophe stands in for, it can be removed with confidence. go ahead, try it yourself everyone!
 
I'm still not finished the story. It's quite long. Quite weird though.

I'm wondering if this has been overly exaggerated? (I haven't got to the end though, so I suppose I can't really say anything yet)
 
Jimmy Enslashay
I'm still not finished the story. It's quite long. Quite weird though.

I'm wondering if this has been overly exaggerated? (I haven't got to the end though, so I suppose I can't really say anything yet)
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It's not a bad story - the descriptions of the scraping rocks, the screams and the sounds were creepy, but the ending kinda sucks. It could have been a good believable story about some cave where something unspeakably evil dwelt and a couple of cavers stumbled upon it.

The missing video camera and the undeveloped pictures of the symbol on the wall are a bit too convenient. As for the cliffhanger ending.... meh.



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