Is it possible to B-spec the Super Speedway Endurance?

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Hi All,

I have tried with numerous cars to B-spec the Super Speedway endurance race, it just doesnt seem possible, tried with the Forumla 1 car, various others, the Minolta, the 92CP, the Bentley Speed 8 etc etc, but the B-spec driver just doesnt seem to win.

Anyone done this race on B-spec?, and if so what car did you use?

Cheers

Dan.
 
Why doesn't your car win? Ist it too slow, or does it make more pitstops than the others? Does it spin out all the time?
 
Dan Watkins
Bit of both really, pits too much, and also sometimes crashes in the exit of turn 1 :crazy:
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Use harder tires, as hard as possible. Try to avoid the overtaking setting, and don't push him too much, or he'll spin out all the time. I did it with the R89C (or whatever the thing is called).

Cheers,
the Interceptor
 
I smiled when I read this because "B-Spec" is the "Rubber Band Trick" for all the other tracks.

(the rubber band trick being a way to win the Super Speedway Endurance race in GT3 without driving it)
 
orpheusd0wn
I smiled when I read this because "B-Spec" is the "Rubber Band Trick" for all the other tracks.

(the rubber band trick being a way to win the Super Speedway Endurance race in GT3 without driving it)
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Hehe, Escudo Pikes Peak with X tied down, eh? I used scotch tape.
 
you are too advanced. I used momo wheel as usual, I just unplugged power cord, so there was no FF and rotated the wheel a bit out and put something on throttle pedal :D.

Back to the topic - yes I b-spect (I wonder if that is correct expression :D) that race with F1 car. Was not hard, won by several laps. Just use great pit strategy, and refuel only as much as you need.
 
Dan Watkins
Anyone done this race on B-spec?, and if so what car did you use?

Cheers

Dan.
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I did it, try the Minolta 88v thing. It was close, but i managed it. I think its the Peugeot race car, and it takes half as many pit stops ans anyone else, but you should beat it by about 50 laps.
Good Luck
 
gsavill90
Its easy, just wrap the cable around the analogue stick, holding it upwards...
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Yep...no need to scotch tape the button down when you switch the throttle to the analog stick. That was a wonderful trick, whoever thought of it.
 
A_JKOS
I tried b-speccing this race and the driver kept on running into the wall :banghead:

In the end i decided to a spec it
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What speed settings were you using? I found that I can't possibly win that race on 5, no matter how hard I try. The two options that work best for me are to either set it on 3 and leave it or to actually try to govern him by setting it on 5 for the first straight, drop it down to 4 or 3 around the big oval, back up to 4 for the back straight and down to 3 or 2 for the tighter oval. Usually I finish with 1 less pitstop too.
 
I finally got it done today in a Minolta ... took about 7 trys before I got it right. Things started happening when I went back to default setting on my tranny. Used hard front and superhard rear. Set the pace to 3 and walked away. Would check on it about ever 15 or 20 minutes and speed the race up again and Bob won by a lap with ease. The race before that I had a 45 sec lead with 3 laps to go and the stupid thing made a pit stop with 3 laps left!!!! I almost gave up at that moment .... LOL
 
I used the Nissan R92CP, used super hard tires on all fours, and pitted on laps 34 and 68. I won by about 2-3 laps and won a NSX GT LM racer.
 
Turbo the Minolta 88v and leave on 3 with overtake on. that way isn't going to do anything crazy. hard front/superhard rear. of course, until you get a good 5000 b-spec points it will still be incredibly stupid and smack into the ass of the other cars, but eventually it will learn to GO AROUND them. Though, right now im at 6000 b-spec, but my driver will sometimes still not manage to pass.....b-spec mode is a damn joke. its like they removed even more brains from the basic AI
 
Does the 787B still have godlike tire endurance or was that just in GT3? I was able to run 45 laps on the GT3 Laguna Seca endurance race before pitting. And that thing was also hella fast. I dominated the chumpetition.
 
Sure you can. Prefer road racing over ovals? You have my say-so to take a car capable of winning GT World Championship races, and then take that sucker out to Super Speedway, and B-Spec the endurance. Yeah, it's possible.
 
It may need experienced Bob. If it is one of his first races he may not be that good.

I did B-Spec until the last stint when I took over. This was in the Minolta. B Spec was in front but I wanted to make sure.
 
I BSpec'd the Super Speedway endurance with no problem with my stock Minolta. All you really have to do is build him up a nice lead before the first pit stop and turn it over to him afterwards.

It may be a matter of experience points as well - my driver has near 7,000 points.
 
For now, this is the only endurance I've ran in A-Spec. The thing you must remember is to draft as much as you can and watch your speeds into Turns 3 and 4, but especially in Turn 3. The Motegi oval rewards consistency, good handling, proper braking (where and when you have to, of course), and flat-out speed. The Indy Racing Leauge heads there weekend after next, on April 30th. I'm sure the IRL stars will be heeding the advice of the Motegi oval, only thing is, they have to A-Spec. And oh yeah, it's not a game.

There's one more critical factor to this track. If you try to access pit road, BE CAREFUL trying to get in. If making a last-minute decision to pit, make sure you don't slam into the wall. It happened to me, and I had to make up my position. So you already know I had to haul as much butt as I could. I did, so victory- John M.

Be careful at that track. Just like all ovals, all it can take is one mistake to really make your day worse.
 
I tried to do this in B-Spec mode twice with my badly worn Minolta 'Enduro machine' Toyota. Failed first time with 4 pits, nearly did it the 2nd time with 3 pits but when I took over after the 2nd pit, 2 laps from the end I got tapped by a Camaro & the next thing I knew I was a spinning top ;)

3rd time I thought bollocks to it and did it all in A Spec, my first and only A spec endurance in GT4. Ironically on the most boring track. Car got a bit fidgety if you let go of throttle with red tyres, so I kept on a little acceleration even when i was slowing down. :)
 
Well, I found in cars with an extreme amount of HP tend to do better around corners with the gas and the brakes on at the same time. This is especially true on the Nurb with those bumpy corners. If you have a tight corner and need to brake hard, start braking lightly a little early but keep the throttle at 100% until you get a little past the normal braking point. Then brake 100% with about 1/4 throttle. It tends to keep the car stable and helps to launch the car out of the corner better. It also is a good technique to use on worn tires.
 
In all my experiences with B-spec and Super Speedway thus far, the B-spec driver simply doesn't do well in high-speed sweepers like that. I did the Super Speedway 150miles myself (using a Minolta Toyota 88C-V) and it was an easy win. However, in one of the race series, I was running a Formula GT against a field of mostly LeMans cars and Super Speedway was one of the races. So I drove the FGT myself until the first (and only) pit stop and handed the race over to the B-spec driver. He drove so freaking slow in the turns (on 5 mind you) that the Minolta 88C-V in 2nd came back from being down a lap to win within like 20 laps!

So when it came time to do the Formula GT World Championship, I found that the best option was to leave him on 5 the whole time, BUT make him take several extra laps after he first tries to pit until you get to the point where you can make fewer pit stops than the rest of the cars. His runs aren't even that much slower on red tires vs. green ones, but Super Speedway is the kind of track where an extra pit stop equals a ton of lost time, so ignore the lap times and just shoot for a couple fewer pit stops than the cpu drivers. (For example, if it's an 80 lap race and they pit on lap 10, then they will take 7 pit stops (10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70). However, if you stretch it out to 12 laps per pit for your B-spec driver, he can get by with only 6 stops (12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72) and thus should take the win.)

This trick works in A-spec, too, as the time you gain with the better times is easily offset by the time lost by pitting on Super Speedway (especially with those walls you keep you from getting out of shape). In fact, even though I never used the "rubber band" trick in GT3 for Super Speedway 150 miles, I did run the whole race with no pitting and just destroyed the competition (and I used my 1881hp Escudo, IIRC... :lol: ).
 
Wildhalcyon
What speed settings were you using? I found that I can't possibly win that race on 5, no matter how hard I try. The two options that work best for me are to either set it on 3 and leave it or to actually try to govern him by setting it on 5 for the first straight, drop it down to 4 or 3 around the big oval, back up to 4 for the back straight and down to 3 or 2 for the tighter oval. Usually I finish with 1 less pitstop too.
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This is a lot like how I won it using B-spec. I used the Audi R8 with Hard on the front and Super-Hard on the back. I backed him off to 3 then dropped him down to 2 when I realized he was getting out of control on the tighter turn. Sometimes I would bump it up in the straights when other cars were around, but then drop it for the corners. Since this is an endurance race I knew I could win by simply "out-pitting" the other cars. Other cars would get ahead but then pit. Eventually this caught up with them and I ended up winning by about 30 seconds because of the slower pace and harder tires.


Oh and always do the practice session so you can give your driver the pole position.
 
Did the endurance in A-spec, won it. After several tries. First tried it with my Nissan R92CP, but because the AI doesn't pit a lot, I drove too long on my tyres and spinned of the track in the first corner of the track. I believe I eventually won with my Minolta Toyota.:)

With the Formula GT, I did it entirely on B-spec, I qualified my car on pole position, and it was a nice race for Malle Henkie. Till lap 80 or so it was very close, only a few tenths between Henkie and the number 3 car, but later on the AI pitted one lap later and that made Henkie win by a few seconds.:)
 
I don't particularly agree with the 'drive the hardest tires' strategy.

I A-Spec'd this track, and was able to change tires to all of the different racing tires during pit stops, and I found I got the best average of quick lap times / pitting using Racing Medium in the rear, and hard's up front.

I used the 88C-V, and ended up ahead by 3 laps by the end.

-a
 
HoWheels
I don't particularly agree with the 'drive the hardest tires' strategy.

I A-Spec'd this track, and was able to change tires to all of the different racing tires during pit stops, and I found I got the best average of quick lap times / pitting using Racing Medium in the rear, and hard's up front.

I used the 88C-V, and ended up ahead by 3 laps by the end.

-a
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HUH??? Usually the rear tyres are red first, therefore I usually do harder tyres on the rear than on the front. And you're doing the opposite? I wonder how you do that, without ending in the walls...:s :boggled: :confused:
 

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