Is the Audi TT 1.8T a FF in disguise?

  • Thread starter Thread starter ED209
  • 13 comments
  • 2,869 views
E

ED209

Messages
35
As the title says. As I was working my way through some of the manufacturers races I came across the Tourist Trophy. Got myself a TT put some SH tyres on it and did the championship. During practice I wasn't all that impressed with the handling, thinking that it felt more like a FF than a 4WD. I know that 4WD will understeer more than a FR, but this ws much worse due to front tyre spin. Took all the driving aids off, and at the start gave it full throttle, knowing that it shouldn't wheelspin too bad if at all, owning a car with similar weight, power and being 4WD.

But no it just sat on the line with the wheels spinning, I thought that this was odd, and as I watched the replay, the front wheels were spinning for all they were worth, with lots of smoke being produced. So I thought that I'd try this again somewhere else. Took it to Autumn ring mini, went around the circuit to the top of the hill, stopped, turned the car around went down on the grass, spun it around on to the tarmac facing up hill with full throttle and it just sat on the hill going no where with the front wheels spinning.

I don't claim to know much about how the differentials work, in fact nothing, but this does seem odd for a 4WD car to have so much front wheelspin!
 
In real life, the Audi TT is an FF/4WD. It's FF until things go wrong, then it becomes 4WD (most other cars like this are FR/4WD). It's also a fat, understeery hog. All it does is understeer - but, given its early days, that beats the alternative.

In GT it has always been a bit confused. If I recall, it was exactly as you describe in GT3. Very FFy.
 
There is a Variable Centre Diff you can buy that fixes the problem.
I used a 3.2 TT and had no such problems.
 
It is a glitch that has also been in GT3.
It is an FF car until you buy/equip a VCD.
 
wasnt there also some other glitch with the TT's? something about not getting the percentage counting for completing the tourist trophy?

just hearing that scared me into holding off getting a TT.

that and it completely did not impress me in GT3...
 
Isn't there an FF version of the 1.8 in the game anyway? I used the "used" TT for the cup. This is educational for me, never knew why the AWD TT sucked so much... :p

I've never liked the TT in GT, not very good for an AWD car... the S3/A3 feel heaps better.
 
The VCD really was the key to make this car fast in GT3. It is still the same, but the 3.2 TT, oddly enough, doesn't have this problem though it uses a similar quattro system.

PD, you've done it again *clapclapclap* :odd:
 
Some of the early Audi TT's were FF only I seem to remember as well...

C.
 
Audi certainly did release a front wheel drive TT at some point. I cannot remember what engine choice it was available with, but I am sure Audi also released a 4 cylinder TT without a turbo. I have never driven a TT, 2WD or 4WD, so I can only comment on what I've read about the car's handling in road tests, and they generally seem to feel it's typically Audi - understeer at the limit and vague steering.

But, GT4 should tell what drivetrain is on the specific car you've purchased, and that will tell you if it's FF, or 4WD but just acting like an FF. I certainly had trouble trying to figure out where the power was going on my ZZ11 once I had installed a VCD, and watching tyre smoke in the replays didn't clear things up for me at the time. Maybe it's just a minor glitch in the 4WD physics modelling.
 
Audi TTs are all 1.8 4-cylinder turbos, with the exception of the V6 (3.2, non-turbo). The model range includes one front-wheel driver with 160hp which is AS quick, due to the lower weight, as the entry level 4WDer. This model was introduced waaaaaay down the line - all early TTs were 185/225hp 4WDs.
 
actually... the non quattro version has about 180hp, and the latest versions have 173lb-ft of torque.

another thing, the 1.8t engine the TT uses is the same engine as what is in the 1.8t volkswagen gti. the TT is under 100lbs lighter too. and the price difference (for 2005 models) is like $14,000.
 
The AWD system on the TT's is very front wheel biased in real life. Sony probably based thier modeling of the car on this.
 
punkrkr27
The AWD system on the TT's is very front wheel biased in real life. Sony probably based thier modeling of the car on this.
Click to expand...
Whith the TTs 4wd system (which it shares with its brothers like the VW Golf IV 4Motion, unlike the badge suggests it's not Audi's quattro system) normally all the torque goes to the front wheels, the electronically controlled Haldex center differential then can route up to 50% to the rear wheels if needed. In GT3 (and GT4 it seems, haven't tried a TT there yet) this clearly doesn't happen. If you want a 4wd TT, you have to install the VCD controller, but even that allows only one fixed ratio and can't emulate the variable distribution of the real thing. Maybe in GT5...
 
Back