Is this drifting?

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I'm not into drifting, and I'm not into the cars typically associated with drifting, prefering the LMP type cars, F1 cars, etc.

But I notice that when I'm cornering very fast in the 787B or the TS020 the car just barely breaks traction, but in a way that perfectly sets the car up for a speedy exit. I don't try to do it this way, but it seems to happen most of the time. Turns where it is most pronounced would be turn #1 on Deep Forest, the hairpin before the last tunnel on Midfield, or turn #1 on Seattle. Basically tighter turns.

So you tell me. Is that drifting?
 
4 wheel drift maybe...or racing drift...

racing drift I think is just like the slipping anglae boombexxus talked about once it just that you expand that angle to the limit where you break traction but you still have a very fast exit speed but hey I'm just like you, I've been on this forum for more than a year(couting my last account) and I know who you are and I thin like you do sometimes...(especialy on drift).
 
Originally posted by milefile
I'm not into drifting, and I'm not into the cars typically associated with drifting, prefering the LMP type cars, F1 cars, etc.

But I notice that when I'm cornering very fast in the 787B or the TS020 the car just barely breaks traction, but in a way that perfectly sets the car up for a speedy exit. I don't try to do it this way, but it seems to happen most of the time. Turns where it is most pronounced would be turn #1 on Deep Forest, the hairpin before the last tunnel on Midfield, or turn #1 on Seattle. Basically tighter turns.

So you tell me. Is that drifting?
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Yes this is what drifting actually is, now we just call it race drifting to make the distinction from exhibition drifting. It's also called a slip angle, and 4 wheel drifting. You will notice that if you use street cars it is easier to do these types of drifts on longer corners, since they have less grip. Anyways it's more like grip then drift but this where the original term "drift" came from in auto racing.
 
When I watch the replay the car doesn't appear to be drifting, but I can feel it while I'm driving. It's a matter of throttle control. Too much and I'll loose the rear end, too little and I'm going too slow. I find just enough to start feeling the rear swing out, but too little to let it go is just right to get through the corner very fast. LSD settings matter a lot.
 
Back in the day when cars started breaking traction when exiting a curve it was called 'oversteer', but what do I know...
 
I more often get understeer by approaching corners too fast and not being able to turn enough. So I'll drop down one gear more than would ordinarily be ideal, just for a second, and that will usually get the rear swung right where I want it so I can open it up out of the turn. But mostly I don't need to do that.
 
Originally posted by milefile
I more often get understeer by approaching corners too fast and not being able to turn enough. So I'll drop down one gear more than would ordinarily be ideal, just for a second, and that will usually get the rear swung right where I want it so I can open it up out of the turn. But mostly I don't need to do that.
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When you shift down, the engine bogs the drivetrain and slows the car slightly, transferring weight to the front of the car so that the rear tires momentarily have less traction. If you do this at precisely the right speed for the corner, the slip angles on the tires will be just enough so that you can straighten the steering wheel and use the throttle to hold your line through the corner.

This is considered drifting but is by no means the same thing as exhibition drifting or even most race drifting. Exhibition drifting can be done with almost no knowledge of real driving skills, whereas the drifting you describe cannot be mastered without previously mastering both grip and drift. It's also possible to do with slight countersteer, which is a little easier but not a lot easier.
 
right ON...
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Originally posted by shift2drift
Sleek, trying to maintain that state of broken traction is drifting.
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Yes, I kinda knew that. But when traction breaks when you don't want it to, is it still drifting?
 
Originally posted by Sleek Stratos
Yes, I kinda knew that. But when traction breaks when you don't want it to, is it still drifting?
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yup but it probably won't look very pretty since you will be trying to regain traction as soon as possible. Same thing for a power slide at the end of a corner, it's still drifting but really bad drifting.
 
Originally posted by Sleek Stratos
Yes, I kinda knew that. But when traction breaks when you don't want it to, is it still drifting?
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No it's just oversteer, but once you try to maintain the slide, then it becomes drifting.
 
It's not like he was trying to.
I've also noticed that characteristic in the Le Mans cars, the 787B being the most unruly.
 

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