Xiaomi is Coming to Gran Turismo!

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This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Is Xiaomi Coming to Gran Turismo?​

A recent burst of activity on the social media channels of Gran Turismo’s creator, Kazunori Yamauchi, has set some tongues wagging about the possibility of a new marque from a previously unrepresented nation to come to the game series: Xiaomi...

Unless it is a track I don’t care at all.

 

[CitroenCX]

I recommend Kaz to look into Chinese brands more as he and his team will have no shortage of new cars to add, I'm more afraid that they'd be overwhelmed and couldn't keep up with all the new models they released every year.
BYD have plenty to add to the game like Sealion 7 Performance as everyman's Urus or Seal Performance as Model 3P rival or Dolphin Extended as a candidate for semi hot hatch EV.
SAIC MG have MG4 X Power a proper super hatchback EV for the masses and the upcoming MG IM5 super saloon with 780 HP.
I'm surprised he started with Xiaomi though, but it could just be him window shopping and not much materialized later on as usual.

 

[Meythia]

buying Chinese ...

producs in general

What is wrong about the meaning of my post?

The whole tone in which you basically assault the company for having made a decision you dislike with no evidence of it having happened.
And with your recent negative attitude towards the game it doesnt really look like it was a language barrier thing but rather by intention.

 

[nickf1gr]

Criticism for the game is not welcome, okay I understand that....
Everything is fine!!!!

 

[ScottPuss20]

The addition the SU7 Ultra would do wonders for Xiaomi's brand. From a personal perspective, I'd really like to get a feel for the car that's already established itself as something truly special in China.

 

[the Interceptor]

Criticism for the game is not welcome, okay I understand that....
Everything is fine!!!!

I believe the criticism of your initial post was unjustified. Like you stated, English isn't your first language, so grilling you over the choice of a few words is a bit harsh in my opinion.

If I understand you correctly (and please feel free to correct me if I don't), is that you are sad that PD (possibly) chose to add a Chinese car brand to Gran Turismo 7. Your criticism is that you would rather see new cars of well-established brands of performance cars such as Koenigsegg or Hennessey in the game.

I see nothing wrong with that criticism.

 

[Famine]

Criticism for the game is not welcome, okay I understand that....

Where did anyone say that?

You're criticising something that hasn't happened, and also making out like it's responsible for something else that hasn't happened - due to a bilateral contract dispute - not happening.

Did you read the article? Or even just the headline? We are speculating on the possibility of Xiaomi coming to GT in the future based on recent activity, not confirming that it definitely is, and it has nothing to do with Lotus not being in the game - which was due to a disagreement between Lotus and PD (not exclusively a "choice" from PD) over licensing fees and happened eight years ago.

Unless the SU7 Ultra is capable of time travel, they are not connected things. It's also a game, not a glass of water; one brand being added doesn't stop another brand being added.

PD is simply choosing the trend of Chinese cars over putting some car brands with really interesting cars like etc Lotus....

To recap: PD hasn't chosen to follow any trend or add any Chinese cars, PD has also not chosen to not add Lotus, and it's not a choice between one thing and another.

Trying to spin how wrong you are from that into "criticism for the game is not welcome" is daft at best.

 

[nickf1gr]

I believe the criticism of your initial post was unjustified. Like you stated, English isn't your first language, so grilling you over the choice of a few words is a bit harsh in my opinion.

If I understand you correctly (and please feel free to correct me if I don't), is that you are sad that PD (possibly) chose to add a Chinese car brand to Gran Turismo 7. Your criticism is that you would rather see new cars of well-established brands of performance cars such as Koenigsegg or Hennessey in the game.

I see nothing wrong with that criticism.

EXACTLY!!!! that's right!!!! Thank you very much!!!!
I was surprised that my first post made so much (negative) noise....
And yes i read the article....not only headline...

 

[Draugnimir]

PD is simply choosing the trend of Chinese cars over putting some car brands with really interesting cars like etc Lotus....

And with Lotus we'd have both Lotus and Chinese cars at once 🤣

Custom races don't allow electric cars as anything other than one-makes

This is something I cannot understand. Anyone knows or has any idea why did PD set such limitation to custom races for EVs?

 

[ZedNinetySix]

We are in an age where we pay a premium to have our data sold by anything, even a fridge if you want.

20 years ago most people would see this as completely asenine, now they are numb.

 

[Freeman_Cruz]

I would rather have a Koenigsegg a Hennesey or something like that, than a BYD or XAIOMi car....
PD is simply choosing the trend of Chinese cars over putting some car brands with really interesting cars like etc Lotus....

Lotus is majority-owned by the Chinese company Geely. Lotus has been as Chinese as Volvo for a while now 🤷‍♂️ .

 

[Famine]

And yes i read the article....not only headline...

So... why do you think "PD is simply choosing the trend of Chinese cars over putting some car brands with really interesting cars like etc Lotus" when the article is about the possibility of a single brand (with a Nurburgring lap record-holding vehicle) coming based on two CEOs meeting, the Lotus/PD issue dates back eight years before these events, there's no limit on what brands can be added, and there is no Chinese car in the game? And why do you think that this being pointed out to you, repeatedly as you seem to not want to understand it, means that no criticism of the game is allowed?

A meeting of CEOs is barely the first step on the ladder of the steps required to get a car into a game. It just shows that there is a relationship where there was previously none.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

I think it's pretty obvious that Kaz saw my post🙂

What all new cars do you want to see in GT7?

This is one time I hope PD skip the last generation of Suger GT 500 cars and bring this new one in.

www.gtplanet.net

 

[SugaredFlyer]

producs in general

The whole tone in which you basically assault the company for having made a decision you dislike with no evidence of it having happened.
And with your recent negative attitude towards the game it doesnt really look like it was a language barrier thing but rather by intention.

I will never why people get so angry over Chinese cars being put into games whether it's GT or Forza or whoever, especially when the cars that are brought in are years ahead of most Western companies, and that's including American ones by the way

 

[ShonnDaylee]

This is something I cannot understand. Anyone knows or has any idea why did PD set such limitation to custom races for EVs?

Not just EV's, either. I tried to make a Custom Race with the Hi-Ace Ambulance, and could only make a One-Make race with it.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I will never why people get so angry over Chinese cars being put into games whether it's GT or Forza or whoever, especially when the cars that are brought in are years ahead of most Western companies, and that's including American ones by the way

Because people let politics get in the way for some reason. The way a car is built has nothing to do with politics and the regime that a country enacts, so it should not determine whether or not their cars are good or bad. It ultimately comes done to money and manufacturing capability - something China has in spades.

 

[RacingRaymond]

The meeting between Lei Jun and Kaz has caused a sensation in Chinese community, with everyone eagerly anticipating the first Chinese car in GT. To be honest, we'd find it a bit odd if the first vehicle were from Xiaomi, given that brands like NIO or BYD gained fame much earlier. But in any case, something is better than nothing.

 

[SugaredFlyer]

Because people let politics get in the way for some reason. The way a car is built has nothing to do with politics and the regime that a country enacts, so it should not determine whether or not their cars are good or bad. It ultimately comes done to money and manufacturing capability - something China has in spades.

It's genuinely lame and unoriginal

 

[Fezzik]

Vision GT?

 

[Nebuc72]

Vision GT?

Not another one!

 

[hyperspeed980]

Vision GT?

Upon first glance I legitimately could not tell this apart from the Ferrari, Porsche or Genesis VGTs.

Why do they all look like they were designed by a 7-year-old who was given the prompt "make fast car go vroom"?

 

[RobertHammer]

maybe this years Vision GT surprise car at GTWS ?

 

[Famine]

The original wasn't. It was designed by a student at the China Academy of Art for a 2023 project.

Quite why there's a big one now, and how/why it's been photographed I can't say.

 

[Fezzik]

The original wasn't. It was designed by a student at the China Academy of Art for a 2023 project.

Quite why there's a big one now, and how/why it's been photographed I can't say.

Maybe they just thought Kaz would like to see a big model of it.

 

[Famine]

Maybe they just thought Kaz would like to see a big model of it.

Just checked, I misread the original when I was doing the Xiaomi article research a couple of days back. He graduated in 2023, the project was earlier this year.

There's another awarded car from the project that's been made into a 1:1 - you can see it in the front shot; it's the "Robo S" - so quite what's going on I don't know. The "Vision GT" markings aren't the right logos at all though, so I'm guessing it's not a real thing.

 

[tankuroded]

To follow up, there's another car in that project that has the word "vision" in it, the Vision Flow:

 

[Childe Roland]

Deleted... the new was already posted before

 

[Meythia]

Ferrari, Porsche or Genesis VGTs.

It is a new crossover genre: all of the above and many more.
P1 and P4 look like Genesis
P2 looks like Porsche
P3 looks like Koenigsegg
the Color is Ferrari

 

[Normalaatsra]

Maybe it's a sign that PD are interested in covering concepts that aren't VGTs but are directly inspired by the project. Lots of false alarms of a new VGT have been proven to be passion projects by R&D or designer individuals.

 

[AerodyManiac]

It’s strange to see Kaz driving an SU7, when there’re Yangwang U9s and Cybersters out there. Equally peculiar is that he got to speak with Lei Jun, which seems to suggest a personal reception from the latter, whose company probably initiated all this. Pretty weird timing, considering that Xiaomi was involved in a deadly highway crash that sparked a PR controversy just around 2 months ago.

I will never why people get so angry over Chinese cars being put into games whether it's GT or Forza or whoever

I’m going to be utterly candid with you, but if those people are anything like me, then I’d say it’s because they don’t want to see these Chinese cars’ manufacturers paying that much to their government, which isn’t really transparent or accountable in most (or even any) ways, and featuring these cars in video games could translate to people in other countries being more willing to shell out money to buy these cars IRL. There’s a dubious causation between “having XYZ car in GT/Forza/whatever-game-you-name” and “XYZ car having improved sales in places they’re sold in”, but to me it’s a valid point (otherwise why would Toyota ask GT players how its latest Supra handled in a game that doesn’t even mimic real-world physics/handling that well?). Yes, Chinese cars seem to be getting singled out, but then when you consider which dictatorial government has its cars featured in a mainstream racing game that tries to somewhat recreate reality before, chances are you can hardly think of one. Other than Marussia’s brief appearance in NFS (🤔?!), there’s only the lone Mexican car in Forza. And so far, the Mexicans aren’t seen as nearly as big a threat to the world order to the West (and for good reasons). Add to that the actual possibility of buying a Marussia or a Vuhl in real life, and you can see why some people don’t like the addition of Chinese cars into GT. And TBH, I agree with them too. Taxes are what sustains a government, or maybe in some cases even what helps a government extend its influence too, IMO.

TL;DR: yes, some of it has to do with politics, but there’s way more to it than what has been suggested above.