Items that equal infinity.

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Swiss cheese=infinity. Explanation below.

Swiss cheese has holes if I'm not mistaken. And i understand that if your cheese has more holes, than you have less cheese. But if you have less cheese, than you have fewer holes. So fewer holes means more cheese. But more cheese means you have more holes which makes it less cheese. But then less cheese means fewer holes which makes more cheese. This can go on forever. I will conclude this by saying: Swiss Cheese=sideways 8 (infinity):confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
I believe what you are referring to with your cheese example is more along the lines of a paradox than a representation of infinity.
But, regardless:
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(before anyone else does it)
 
You go back in time and shoot your grandfather, which would mean you wouldn't exist, and therefore wouldn't have been able to go back in time and shoot your grandfather.
 
Parenthood is hereditary. If your parents didn't have any children, it's likely you won't have any either.
 
Essentially your argument boils down to this:

Less cheese = fewer holes.
Fewer holes = more cheese.
More cheese = more holes.
More holes = less cheese.


But there's a problem. If less cheese = fewer holes, and fewer holes = more cheese, then less cheese = more cheese, which is a simple contradiction and a violation of the transitive property of equality. The same goes with more cheese = more holes = less cheese.

The root of the issue is that you aren't giving your statements a proper frame of reference. By being more specific in your assumptions, the paradox and contradiction disappear:

Reduced volume of cheese = fewer holes.
Fewer holes, given a fixed volume of cheese = more cheese.
Increased volume of cheese = more holes.
More holes, given a fixed volume of cheese = less cheese.
(assuming holes of uniform volume and density)


Sorry, SolidSnake15, but there are trickier faux paradoxes out there. ;) Famine probably knows some good ones.
 
I think you also have to specify the size of the holes, don't you? or am I mistaken?
 
These are numbers. What we need are real head twisters.

Which leads to quantum physics, and the infamous Schrodingers Cat.

The premise is this: radioactive decay, as a quantum event, is only observable, not predictable. So, if an observer is required for the event to occur, Schrodinger volunteered his cat. But then, he mused that if his cat was watching, and he was watching the cat, then he would be watching the event, and thus he was affecting the experiment. So he put his cat in a box. In this case, the radioactive decay event would be linked to a small hammer which would be released to strike a phial of poison gas and thus kill the cat.

Schodinger's problem was this: since the cat observed the event, it must know whether it had happened - or rather it not happened, because if it had, it would be dead. Whichever, the cat's state is fairly obvious to the cat. But to an external observer, they would have to open the box to see. Because quantum events are determined by the observer, this means to Schrodinger, the cat must be in a state of indeterminate 'quantum flux' both alive and dead, right from the instant the box is closed until the box is reopened, and the cat then 'chooses' which state to be in, determined by the external observer witnessing the qauntum event that the cat was supposed to be observing.

Weird, huh?
 
Imagine a ball of steel the size of Jupiter. Every million years a small bird brushes its wing against the giant ball of steel until it has worn down to nothing.
 
Then, and only then, the bird begins to collect each dustgrain of steel from wherever it has floated to, and reassembles them to remake the planet on the other side of the galaxy. (Nice.)
 
Pointing a live closed circuit TV camera at a TV set showing a TV set which shows a TV set which shows a TV set...of course, the image of infinity is only as good as the resolution of the TV screen, which will not appear to duplicate once it's reached its last pixel. But theoretically, the notion of infinity is transferred.

Two mirrors pointed at each other, look at the image. However, the index of refraction will gently move the image slightly off the center, since a mirror has a shiny side with a coating (usually glass), and not all light passes through perfectly, causing distortion. But you get the idea.

A snake eating it's own tail! Except it would die of malnutrition or harm itself in the process.
 
How many liters of water is there on earth?
Of course,its almost impossible to count things which has an almost indefinite value.Of course,an assumption would almost solve any of that.A tricky one would be "what is infinity and how many infinities are there to make an infinite amount of infinities?"
 
Those are paradoxes, most of them have nothing at all to do with infinity.


Neither e nor pi are infinite, they both have precise values. However they both require an infinite number of significant digits to express in decimal notation. So do simple fractions like 1/3 and 1/7. In fact there is an infinite quantity of numbers which require an infinite number of significant digits in decimal.
 
If a circle has Infinity sides, then how many sides does a semi circle have?

Infinity/2 +1 (also known as infinity)

And before some genius tells me a circle only has one side, it doesn't.
 
How many liters of water is there on earth?
Of course,its almost impossible to count things which has an almost indefinite value.Of course,an assumption would almost solve any of that.A tricky one would be "what is infinity and how many infinities are there to make an infinite amount of infinities?"

Im not quite sure if this relates to infinities but is the water we have right here on earth the same amount of water that we have had for millions if not billions of years ago in some form or another? ex. water vapor, water in plants, water that makes up beings & animals, oceans, glaciers, clouds, lakes, rivers, ect.
 
Tim Flately. Owner of Flatleyco.

He has $3.4 billion in liquid assets. As in, Walk to the bank and write a check for $3.399 billion, and it doesn't bounce.

We take into account a few things, Tim is not immortal, therefore he will expire. He does have one son that will inherit this money. Thus continuing his legacy.

Tim started with less than a dollar 45 years ago, when he got off the boat from Ireland. So he built this cash cow by taking others money. Irregardless, of that fact, as it doesn't affect my proposition.

Bank of America has a return rate of 5% annually. That means Tim makes $170,000,000 a year. Hence forth, he has to spend $468,319.56 a day (taking out Christmas and New Years).

So how do you spend that much each day? You buy things. Lots of really expensive things. REALLY EXPENSIVE THINGS. The problem is, you can't spend it fast enough. If it takes an hour to pick out a $15,000 rolex watch, he made $29269 while waiting. He bought a $15,000 watch and made $14,269 while doing it.

So he buys bigger more expensive things. Property. Malls, houses, The State of Vermont. Property doesn't lose its value which means he makes more money. Thus getting richer.

Tim Flatley = Infinity. When your means to spend money is outweighted by your ability to make money.

So you take the money out of the bank, you still have to spend $170,000,000 a year for 20 years to burn it all up. Can you figure how to spend that much that fast, before you die?
 
Im not quite sure if this relates to infinities but is the water we have right here on earth the same amount of water that we have had for millions if not billions of years ago in some form or another? ex. water vapor, water in plants, water that makes up beings & animals, oceans, glaciers, clouds, lakes, rivers, ect.
Essentially, the amount of water on earth does not change over time, though some if it does escape through the atmosphere.

This amount is not infinite, and we can quite easily estimate it. I assume that 70% of the earth is covered in oceans, and the average depth is 1.25 miles (about 7000 feet). This gives about 7.25X10^20 liters. Of course, this ignores lakes, rivers, ice, and water vapor, but we could calculate those, too (their contribution wouldn't be as significant as that from the oceans).
 
The water cycle. Never lose or gain one drop of water.

The law of conservation of energy. Always the same amount of energy.

:-)
 
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