Jacques Villeneuve?

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is the Canadian F1 Champion really calling it quits? there are lots of rumours that the sport of F1 will be no longer seeing him on the tracks. Lots of people are starting to see Villeneuve as the 1997 F1 Champion but not to be on the track anymore.

if he does leave the sport, he will always be the Canadian F1 Champion!
Au-revoir Jacques Villeneuve (french for good-bye Jacques Villeneuve and if he does go)

http://www.formula1.com/archive/halloffame/gallery/5/8.html
 
Oh, please. He's World Champion Williams's lead driver, not F1 champ.
 
They should remove all the pictures of Jacques from the Hall of Fame and replace them with pics of the 1997 Williams car :p

Jacques has been driving pretty well lately, but after winning the championship in 1997 he's not really been in a truly competitive car until the couple of races he did for Renault (and even then he was well off the pace due to learning the car). Obviously he's a talent but I wouldn't rate him that highly, certainly not infront of his father.

If he doesn't come back to F1 I don't think he'll be as missed as Montoya probably will be.
 
amp88
They should remove all the pictures of Jacques from the Hall of Fame and replace them with pics of the 1997 Williams car :p

Jacques has been driving pretty well lately, but after winning the championship in 1997 he's not really been in a truly competitive car until the couple of races he did for Renault (and even then he was well off the pace due to learning the car). Obviously he's a talent but I wouldn't rate him that highly, certainly not infront of his father.

If he doesn't come back to F1 I don't think he'll be as missed as Montoya probably will be.
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yeah.....but again, back then with williams, he was quite the man.
 
JV is one of only four drivers who won the Cart and F1 championship.

Aside with a former great like Andretti...

JV should have been TWICE the F1 champ but he had bad luck in his rookie season at the LAST grand prix where he had the championship in his hand but did not finish the race.

In the other season, all of you who says he did not deserve it should bring out the archives and look at that 1996 season closely, up to the last race.

It was one of the closest championship in years, he had to score 1 pt more than, if you remember, a now famous Michael Schumacher. He did and won the championship, a truly great driver who unfortunately was badly lead by his manager and close friend, Craig Pollock.
 
Div is back
In the other season, all of you who says he did not deserve it should bring out the archives and look at that 1996 season closely, up to the last race.

It was one of the closest championship in years, he had to score 1 pt more than, if you remember, a now famous Michael Schumacher. He did and won the championship, a truly great driver who unfortunately was badly lead by his manager and close friend, Craig Pollock.
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If you're going to put in a dig at people like myself who don't rate Villeneuve then you should at least get your major dates right. Villeneuve was champion in 1997, not 1996. Hill was champion in 1996.

If you want to talk about 1996 races, what about Spain? Villeneuve was consistently several seconds (e.g. 3-5 seconds) per lap slower than Schumacher, despite being in a vastly superior car. Jacques finished nearly 50 seconds behind in third place.
 
If you're doubting his talent, you obviously never saw him drive in CART.

I thought we'd gotten past this "HE didn't win; it was the car" nonsense :rolleyes:
 
kylehnat
If you're doubting his talent, you obviously never saw him drive in CART.

I thought we'd gotten past this "HE didn't win; it was the car" nonsense :rolleyes:
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I've seen some of his CART racing before and yes, he was good, but in F1 he wasn't spectacular. Of the F1 champions in the last 10 years (Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve, Mika Hakkinen, Michael Schumacher and Fernando Alonso) I'd put Villeneuve on the bottom. No driver can win a championship without a good car, and IMHO Villeneuve's part in the winning formula was smaller than the other champions I listed above.
 
Pink_the_Floyd
Nope, his father pwned!

Gilles Villeneuve!
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Hell yeah, very few drivers come close to being compared to Giles, Jacques certainly doesn't.
 
NASCAR or a return to Champ Car wouldn't hurt either. A return to any North American racing series would be great for the fans.
 
red70mach1
NASCAR or a return to Champ Car wouldn't hurt either. A return to any North American racing series would be great for the fans.
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oh yeah, thats true. i say he would do better in Champ Car since they have some Canadian swings in the season
 
I'd love to see him back in Champ Car (especially if he returns to Forsythe Championship Racing and teams up with A.J. Allmendinger and Paul Tracy).
 
JV is nowhere near the team player (by that I mean leadership in the organization, motivating the guys, etc.) that you see in the likes of MS, Mansell, Senna, and so on. Rather than work the car with the engineers, he seems to complain that they can't give him a car. Just my impression. He's a fairly good driver, able to use a very good car, but not able to work with substandard equipment and bring it up. Anybody remember where Benneton was when Michael came on board, or even where Ferrari was when he came to them?
 
JV has had a reverse career as such, peaked at the beginning then has free fallen ever since. He's started to climb back up this season but I agree with BMW in that he hasn't improved to a level where he can still mix it with the Buttons or the Webbers that BMW are desperate to beat.
 
The BMW deal with JV went off for some reason and one should take in consideration many things related to him (ie. his manager Craig Pollock) to point out what happen in an outsider POV. But it must be faced : Jacques tasted to the wine of F1 and now, 10 years since his arrival, the bottle is empty. It was already apparent that opportunities would be few past this season but why getting rid of him now and not after the Brazil GP?

Well I now agree that they might have found a better drive opportunity in Kubica even if it niks their friday 3rd car.

Post-Scriptum kind of edit : F1Rejects.com puts the reasons down clearly in their Hungary GP review. Much text there.
 
JV still has the talent behind the wheel, as a raw driver his skills are still right up there. What he lacks is his team player skills and ability to turn things round when things aren't so good. If a car isn't performing he lacks the knowledge to explain to his team what's going on inside the cockpit so they can get the best out of what's available. He also seems to get phazed far too easily by racing politics.

This is why he shined in good cars and racing formulas that have a much more even playing field like Cart had and like NASCAR/Busch will be. I don't believe he's ever managed to alter his driving style to fully suit the electronically aided modern F1.
 
He also makes I think plenty of driving errors in F1, although he had a good piece of form earlier this season.
 
Sureshot
Is he the World Champion with the fewest race wins in his career?

11 Wins iirc.
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A few other champions have less wins:

Farina has 5 wins (1950 British, Swiss, Italian, 1951 Belgium, 1953 German)
Phil Hill has 3 ('60 Italy, '61 Belgium, '61 Italy)
James Hunt has 10: ('75 Dutch, 6 wins in '76, 3 in '77)

I know there's more, but nothing else off the top of my head.
 
miss_schu
I am glad JV is no longer in F1!

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Why? Because of the rivalry between schumacher and villeneuve? You being a schumacher fan would obviously be biased. :indiff:

I never really liked villeneuve but now im starting to dislike him. I know there is a bitter rivalry between schumacher and villeneuve but i think villeneve went a bit too far when he commented about schumacher :nervous: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37047

Maybe he is starting to feel desperate and his cockyness is showing http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37051
 
Bubble Bunny
Why? Because of the rivalry between schumacher and villeneuve? You being a schumacher fan would obviously be biased. :indiff:

I never really liked villeneuve but now im starting to dislike him. I know there is a bitter rivalry between schumacher and villeneuve but i think villeneve went a bit too far when he commented about schumacher :nervous: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37047

Maybe he is starting to feel desperate and his cockyness is showing http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37051
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Playing devil's advocate here on the subject of Schumacher, he's not really saying anything new. Quite a few people have made very similar comments about Schumacer's conduct over the years, Damon Hill being just one.


The entire piece of BMW is no great surprise either, just about every driver dropped by a team will say that the team has made a mistake and actually needs them, so no big suprise in that. his remarks about Kubica are quite fair, he is an unknown quantity.

Regards

Scaff
 
Bubble Bunny
Why? Because of the rivalry between schumacher and villeneuve? You being a schumacher fan would obviously be biased. :indiff:

I never really liked villeneuve but now im starting to dislike him. I know there is a bitter rivalry between schumacher and villeneuve but i think villeneve went a bit too far when he commented about schumacher :nervous: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37047

Maybe he is starting to feel desperate and his cockyness is showing http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37051
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i'm agree with JV, shumacher play dirty and he's not a hero he win all this championship with a car very superior than they other ( i don't say he's a bad driver ) and i don't thing JV make a mistake to say that, yes he have a big mouth but he's like that since the beginning
 

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