Jeje6410 GT Sport Tune Garage (updates regurlaly / 18/03/22)

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i am no specialist in this, but as far as i understand it the whole gearbox is a very flexible tool that has great impact on the way the car behaves onder throttle,braking and acceleration.

The way the way the spacing/spreading of the gears is determined by the technique applied.

Correct me if i am wrong, but back in the gt5/6 days i think it was @praiano63 (Laurent, my friend, can you please help me here?) who developed the method of a "flipped gearbox":

--> first max "final gear" and then minimum "max speed", in the end spacing.

The gears got longer, and where in a different rev-band...
you had more acceleration from standing start,
and sometimes with "down-tuned" cars you could get rid of pumping...

There are more advantages but this should do for now... The gearbox was and sometimes still is one of the most powerful tools for tuning.

In GTS it still works, that was a big "eureka" moment when we had GTS-prologue and again when GTS came out... that it still worked...

Jeje (Jérôme) also uses this method a lot, but most of the time with a twist:

- sometimes he uses a higer minimum "max speed" setting
- but nearly always he uses the "final gear" minus 500 rpm and then spaces the gears

@Jeje6410 why?

so to give you a kind of simple answer:
the max speed setting provides the rev-band/location and the final gear the dimension of the total range (i know that is incorrect but it can be a way of thinking).

if you want to dig deeper in this subject, here on GTP are a lot of posts about this from the past (GT5/6) that still apply...

I hope it is all a bit correct and understandable, i hope that others can help here...

Grts Stefan from very hot holland

In GT6 I have always used the method of my friend @praiano63. And in GT Sport too . I learn this method in this @praiano63 's post :
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...mo-red-bull-x2014-junior.291084/#post-9004465
For yours explanations they are corrects and understandable my dear Stefan.👍👍
 
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Subaru WRX Gr.B Road Car - N500

498 ch
564,0 Nm
1197 kg
4RM

Ratio power 104% niveau 1
Ratio weight reduction 84% niveau 3

Traction control
1

Tires
Sport Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
+2

FC Suspension
F/R
99mm/110mm // 3.89inch/4.33inch
2.68hz/2.68hz
5/6
54/54
86/86
1.8/1.2
Out -0.04/In +0.10

Downforce
F/R
100/200

FC LSD
F // R
5/8/7 // 7/8/9

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 4.500
Max Speed 200 km/h
1st 3.102/106
2nd 2.385/138
3rd 1.930/170
4th 1.619/203
5th 1.391/236
6th 1.249/280
Final Gear at 3.566
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

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Good drive and enjoy :cheers:
 
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i am no specialist in this, but as far as i understand it the whole gearbox is a very flexible tool that has great impact on the way the car behaves onder throttle,braking and acceleration.

The way the way the spacing/spreading of the gears is determined by the technique applied.

Correct me if i am wrong, but back in the gt5/6 days i think it was @praiano63 (Laurent, my friend, can you please help me here?) who developed the method of a "flipped gearbox":

--> first max "final gear" and then minimum "max speed", in the end spacing.

The gears got longer, and where in a different rev-band...
you had more acceleration from standing start,
and sometimes with "down-tuned" cars you could get rid of pumping...

There are more advantages but this should do for now... The gearbox was and sometimes still is one of the most powerful tools for tuning.

In GTS it still works, that was a big "eureka" moment when we had GTS-prologue and again when GTS came out... that it still worked...

Jeje (Jérôme) also uses this method a lot, but most of the time with a twist:

- sometimes he uses a higer minimum "max speed" setting
- but nearly always he uses the "final gear" minus 500 rpm and then spaces the gears

@Jeje6410 why?

so to give you a kind of simple answer:
the max speed setting provides the rev-band/location and the final gear the dimension of the total range (i know that is incorrect but it can be a way of thinking).

if you want to dig deeper in this subject, here on GTP are a lot of posts about this from the past (GT5/6) that still apply...

I hope it is all a bit correct and understandable, i hope that others can help here...

Grts Stefan from very hot holland
Hello, first , i have to say that i did not invent the ''flipped transmition trick'' others players were using it before , i don't remember if it was possible to do it in GT4 , i wasn't tuning cars at this time.
Anyway , this trick was very efficient in GT5 and 6 , allowing to explore the peak of power on the rpm range where it stay , making the gear closer one to the other.
In GTS this is no more so performant to do the trick, there is almost no difference between a gearbox tuned with auto trans slider or with the flip.
It's is still valid to use it but for other reason than a better accel.

1st good point : having closer gears allow you to stay in the same a narrower rpm range . Nothing new but this time it's not for a better acceleration but this way you can for example accelerate earlier full gas out corner without loosing the rear end because you are staying away of the max torque peak zone , a very bad RPM range for you to fall in during a retake shifting to an upper gear . This combination together with a right LSD acceleration value ,help you to stay inline out of those medium and fast speed corners that you can find on most of the tracks. (Like parabolica last turn on monza , or first right turn out on suzuka.)

2d good point is that you have more free RPM range available to set each gear and because of this you will be able to set some specific gear to work better in specifics corners. ( Like passing all all the Suzuka S curves with the same gear at the ideal rpm range to nail all apex with the optimum grip ... or set a first gear to have a better acceleration out the next hairpin .... )


I will make a post in my garage thread about all this for sure with some video and graphics,

Have a good day friends.
 
so to give you a kind of simple answer:
the max speed setting provides the rev-band/location and the final gear the dimension of the total range (i know that is incorrect but it can be a way of thinking).

if you want to dig deeper in this subject, here on GTP are a lot of posts about this from the past (GT5/6) that still apply...

I hope it is all a bit correct and understandable, i hope that others can help here...

Grts Stefan from very hot holland

Thanks Steefpeef for your time in explaining this to me. Makes much more sense now!!
 
Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3 Road Car - N500

490 ch
487,8 Nm
1188 kg
MR

Ratio power 109% niveau 1
Ratio weight reduction 90% niveau 3

Traction control
1

Tires
Sport Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
-2

FC Suspension
F/R
80mm/93mm // 3.24inch/3.66inch
2.60hz/2.60hz
5/6
54/53
86/84
0.6/0.9
Out -0.04/In +0.30

Downforce
F/R
100/200

FC LSD
R
6/6/5

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 4.500
Max Speed 200 km/h
1st 3.195/105
2nd 2.445/138
3rd 1.967/171
4th 1.640/205
5th 1.400/241
6th 1.249/280
Final Gear at 3.252
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

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Good drive and enjoy :cheers:
 
Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 Road Car - N500

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Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

This tune can be use for all the races in GT League ( in Professional Pilot League Midship Challenge)

This tune is just great, my new favourite! A lot of control during acceleration and under braking, and if it gets loose a bit, it does not stab you in the back, and i could always catch it again, that gives great confidence and makes it possible to go closer to the limit and be consistent in the same time. The gearbox is very sweet.

thank you very much for it!
 
This tune is just great, my new favourite! A lot of control during acceleration and under braking, and if it gets loose a bit, it does not stab you in the back, and i could always catch it again, that gives great confidence and makes it possible to go closer to the limit and be consistent in the same time. The gearbox is very sweet.

thank you very much for it!

It's my pleasure to thank you for testing and using this RCZ. Thanks a lot my dear friend Stefan for writing yours impressions. It's a real pleasure for me to read your enjoy . Thanks again my dear friend :cheers: :cheers:
 
Alfa Romeo 4C Launch Edition - N300

270 ch
395,3 Nm
950 kg
MR

Ratio power 113% niveau 2
Ratio weight reduction 100% niveau 2

Traction control
1

Tires
Sport Hard at Sport Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
+1

FC Suspension
F/R
99mm/104mm // 3.89inch/4.09inch
1.60hz/1.60hz
4/8
59/62
89/92
1.5/1.0
Out -0.04/In +0.22

Downforce
F/R
0/0

FC LSD
R
6/6/14

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 5.000
Max Speed 200 km/h
1st 2.626/85
2nd 1.957/114
3rd 1.519/148
4th 1.222/184
5th 1.003/224
6th 0.862/280
Final Gear at 3.525
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

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Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

This tune can be use for all the races in GT League ( in Beginner Pilot League Sunday Cup)
 
My dear friend,
Continue the good work...
It's always a pleasure to drive your setups.

When you had time please do the Porsche Cayman GT4.

Regards,

Thanks a lot my dear friend for yours nice words. I will try to make it for tomorrow .
Thanks again my dear friend :cheers::cheers:
 
Honda S660 '15 - N100

92 ch
151,7 Nm
763 kg
MR

Ratio power 145% niveau 2
Ratio weight reduction 92% niveau 3

Traction control
1

Tires
Comfort Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
0

FC Suspension
F/R
125mm/136mm // 4.92inch/5.35inch
1.40hz/1.40hz
3/4
59/59
89/89
1.2/0.8
Out -0.04/In +0.10

Downforce
F/R
0/0

FC LSD
R
7/6/9

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 5.500
Max Speed 280 km/h
1st 2.137/74
2nd 1.534/103
3rd 1.140/139
4th 0.886/179
5th 0.703/225
6th 0.587/280
Final Gear at 5.322
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

15329712116555778965863936172276.jpg


Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

This tune can be use for all the races in GT League ( in Beginner Pilot League Light Weight K Cup)
 
Ford Focus ST '15 - N300

285 ch
409,4 Nm
1257 kg
FF

Ratio power 112% niveau 1
Ratio weight reduction 86% niveau 3

Traction control
1

Tires
Sport Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
0

FC Suspension
F/R
119mm/119mm // 4.68inch/4.68inch
1.30hz/1.30hz
3/4
59/59
89/89
1.2/0.8
Out -0.04/In +0.10

Downforce
F/R
0/0

FC LSD
F
5/8/7

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 5.000
Max Speed 200 km/h
1st 2.692/82
2nd 1.997/111
3rd 1.539/145
4th 1.231/181
5th 1.004/222
6th 0.857/280
Final Gear at 3.538
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

15329872721404885844262995645612.jpg


Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

This tune can be use for all the races in GT League ( in Amateur Pilot League World HatchBack Championship)
 
Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16

400 ch
437,2 Nm
1183 kg
MR

Ratio power 104% niveau 1
Ratio weight reduction 91% niveau 1

Traction control
1

Tires
Racing Hard at Racing Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
0

FC Suspension
F/R
58mm/68mm // 2.28inch/2.67inch
2.60hz/2.60hz
5/6
55/55
85/85
1.8/1.7
Out -0.04/In +0.26

Downforce
F/R
250/530

FC LSD
R
8/6/14

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 4.500
Max Speed 200 km/h
1st 2.577/118
2nd 2.004/152
3rd 1.645/185
4th 1.401/218
5th 1.223/249
6th 1.115/280
Final Gear at 3.260
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

15330709118912195757923959781591.jpg


Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

This tune can be use for all the races in GT League (in Beginner Pilot League Group 4 Cup)
 
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Sorry my friends but I can not offer other cars at the moment. My work takes me a lot of time in recent weeks. So I have more time to play and make money to buy the cars of the latest updates like the Mercedes F1 W08. I hope to come back very soon.

Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

Appreciate all the hard work you've done, and look forward to many more of your tunes in the future.
 
Sorry my friends but I can not offer other cars at the moment. My work takes me a lot of time in recent weeks. So I haven't more time to play and make money to buy the cars of the latest updates like the Mercedes F1 W08. I hope to come back very soon.

Good drive and enjoy :cheers:
Hello my friend, i've made all the money during my sleep and working time , with the rubber and DS4
The only difference now is that i use the veneno at N700 RSS tires against GR3. The veneno being a 4WD is a lot more stable and stay easier on his line.
Good luck.
 
Hello my friend, i've made all the money during my sleep and working time , with the rubber and DS4
The only difference now is that i use the veneno at N700 RSS tires against GR3. The veneno being a 4WD is a lot more stable and stay easier on his line.
Good luck.


Thank you very much for your advice my dear friend. But for 3 or 4 months I will be overworked. But if I have some time I will try.
Thanks again my dear friend :cheers::cheers:
 
Hello my friend, i've made all the money during my sleep and working time , with the rubber and DS4
The only difference now is that i use the veneno at N700 RSS tires against GR3. The veneno being a 4WD is a lot more stable and stay easier on his line.
Good luck.


Cheers fella, easiest Cr. 3,000,000 I've ever made :cheers:
 
McLaren 650S Gr.4

405 ch
423,1 Nm
1066 kg
MR

Ratio power 100% niveau 1
Ratio weight reduction 82% niveau 2

Traction control
1

Tires
Racing Hard at Racing Soft

Brakes front/rear distribution
0

FC Suspension
F/R
58mm/68mm // 2.28inch/2.67inch
2.60hz/2.60hz
5/5
54/54
84/84
1.8/1.7
Out -0.04/In +0.29

Downforce
F/R
250/550

FC LSD
R
8/6/20

FC Transmission
Final Gear at 4.500
Max Speed 200 km/h
1st 3.128/107
2nd 2.501/134
3rd 2.062/162
4th 1.761/190
5th 1.536/218
6th 1.376/243
7th 1.269/280
Final Gear at 3.299
For suits the track adjust just the Final Gear

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Good drive and enjoy :cheers:

This tune can be use for all the races in GT League (in Beginner Pilot League Group 4 Cup)
 
Sorry my friend... I never hit with the gearbox values...
How you make this values? You put the speed limit in 200km/h and the final gear into 4.500, then you put all the values of the gear.
When you finally have put all values, you change the final to 3.299?

I have a problem in excel, thats the way i put my gear... but your values i can't introduce.

regards
 
Sorry my friend... I never hit with the gearbox values...
How you make this values? You put the speed limit in 200km/h and the final gear into 4.500, then you put all the values of the gear.
When you finally have put all values, you change the final to 3.299?

I have a problem in excel, thats the way i put my gear... but your values i can't introduce.

regards
Did you adjust the final gear first and then max speed, gears and then the final gear ?.
 
Sorry my friend... I never hit with the gearbox values...
How you make this values? You put the speed limit in 200km/h and the final gear into 4.500, then you put all the values of the gear.
When you finally have put all values, you change the final to 3.299?

I have a problem in excel, thats the way i put my gear... but your values i can't introduce.

regards

Hi my friend
Sorry but my gears are good.
For all my tunes in first adjust the final gear, in second adjust the max speed, in third adjust the gears and then the final gear.

Good drive and enjoy :cheers:
 
Oh i see.
I never told that yours gears are bad...
I doesn't had understand how you put the values,
Ok... now i understand your steps...
Tonight i will try and give you a feedback


regards,

There is also a lot of interesting stuff in the posts #654 until #664 about this in this thread, that could be also interesting for you...
 
Thanks a lot to all.
Now it's perfect...
Steefpeef thanks for review the posts, but unfortanely i don't have to many time to play... I get the tune and put the tuning... I can't have time to adjustments...
:P
Regards to all,
 
I same thing is happening with me. I don't think that I will ever be able to compleat those 3 events. If you come up with a salution let me know please.

garystevens64
 
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