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G T Allegerita

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Hello,

What do you guys think about the following idea for GT7:

Being able to import any JPEG image to the game for use as paint on your car.
This way you could create your own livery in Photoshop. Online matches would be much more interesting and personal because you could appreciate other peoples car art too.

I'm aware that there might be legislative reasons and/or demands from car manifacturors prohibiting this idea from becoming reality. If someone has more information about that then it would be interesting as well, hoping that there's a way to change that.

Ps. This idea came to my mind after playing aTony Hawk Proskater game many years ago. For this game it was possible to email a JPEG image to the development team after which they would bake it onto the face of your character. I used an image of the joker and the result was awesome.

Please let me know how many of you like this idea or any other thoughts about it.
 
Sure, I like it, but you'd need a way to load in a template of the car skin from the game to paint over. And I sincerely doubt it will happen like this. The opportunity for mischief is pretty high.

I wish though that people would get over their squeamishness about porn or NAZI mobiles. There are ample ways to ban people from online servers, and this should satisfy anyone's needs. This hypersensitive "I'm offended" routine people fall into wears me out.
 
Tenacious D
Sure, I like it, but you'd need a way to load in a template of the car skin from the game to paint over. And I sincerely doubt it will happen like this. The opportunity for mischief is pretty high.

I wish though that people would get over their squeamishness about porn or NAZI mobiles. There are ample ways to ban people from online servers, and this should satisfy anyone's needs. This hypersensitive "I'm offended" routine people fall into wears me out.
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Tenacious D (cool name)

Thank you for responding. You totally understand what I'm wishing for. Templates would indeed be perfect but it wouldn't be too much of a problem not having them because you could compare the result with your source picture, adjust that and reload it into the game, perfecting the result through trial and errror. Being able to stretch the picture within the game would also speed up the proces. However, it would still be so much easier and faster than using those paint/livery editors that some games have/had. It would also eliminate the need for that ludacris paintmuseum that GT5 had. What a torture room that was!

I'd also like to find out which legal reason stands in the way of this idea.

Is it, as you mention, because of intollerance to other peoples expressions?

Is it to protect children against "graphic" content?

Is it because of copyright issues that could turn up when people drive around in cars with Coca Cola logos or paintings and photo's from professional artists?

Is it because of fear from car manufacturors that some paintjobs will make their cars look less attractive?

Is it all or none of the above?

I hope to find out or better yet: I hope we will get the chance to decorate cars as proposed because in a time where games are getting shorter and more repetitive, this would be a good way to get more entertainment out of our 60 bucks.
 
...I don't mind a feature like this appearing in a future GT title - I'm not an artistic person so IF a livery editor lands in GT7 (hopefully) I wouldn't be able to make anything worthwhile. But with this feature, I could just upload a pic of my family and then use that instead.

However, shouldn't this thread be in Features Suggestion Forum instead? :confused:
 
JKgo
...I don't mind a feature like this appearing in a future GT title - I'm not an artistic person so IF a livery editor lands in GT7 (hopefully) I wouldn't be able to make anything worthwhile. But with this feature, I could just upload a pic of my family and then use that instead.

However, shouldn't this thread be in Features Suggestion Forum instead? :confused:
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Thank you for sharing your opinion and I like your point of view. I personally like to create things in photoshop so I couldn't have imagined how well this feature could cater to people who don't like to invest much time into creating a personalised car.

I didn't know there is a features thread. This discussion would fit there pretty well too I agree. I'm too laisy though, nor do I have the time atm to relocate it so I'll just wait and see what happens.

I'm a bit disappointed by the number of comments anyway allthough I very much like the quality of them :)
 
I hope this will happen so I can have the ultimate livery:
GreaterPC-DougDance.JPG
 
As far as I know, no game has ever been threatened by anyone for allowing custom graphics in their games, including manufacturer logos. There is an understanding from everyone that whatever a user incorporates into their personally owned games is their right, and no restrictions other than getting banned from online for offensive material has been the norm for decades. On this freewheeling libertarian basis, I do wish that not only will there be livery editors in every racing and combat game, but they be allowed to work with Photoshop, GIMP, Paint.net and most computer art programs. It could happen, but I'm not holding out hope that this will come to consoles any time soon.

G T Allegerita
Tenacious D (cool name)
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Actually, that's a funny story. When I wanted to join in 2005, I wanted a cool nick. A relative was a huge fan of Initial D, and that always stuck in my mind as having a cool ring to it, but I didn't want to just use it so I mulled over a few possibilities. Eventually the name "Tenacious D" popped into my head, and I thought it sounded perfect, not too arrogant, not too humble. I had no idea Jack Black even existed, let alone his band, so it's one of those coincidence things. I'd love to know how the heck he came up with that name myself. :P
 
Why only Jpeg? Why not PNG and GIF files as well? I've used both and they are really good when you want to use high quality logos.
 
SVX
.png or nothing, really. If it was JPEG I wouldn't bother, as they do not enable transparency unlike .pngs.




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I must be the only one that uses GIF (not to be confused with animated Gifs), they work for me. Admittingly though, I use PNGs more often since I can also make PNGs as well.
 
SVX
You're the only one that uses them, for a good reason. :lol: Look at that shocking colour banding and jaggies.
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That actually looks bad now that I've actually seen it up close. Guess after using ones that weren't that huge and never paying attention, I only now see why nobody uses them.

So yeah, PNGs...
 
I doubt its going to happen. Consoles have a unfounded fear of letting people import images of any kind into games. Basically they let the .01% who will upload something bad ruin it for everyone.

Uploading images from the HDD was a planned feature for Little Big Planet and was even demoed, but was scrapped before it launched and the developers said it would never become a reality.

Our best and really only hope is a Forza style livery editor
 
Given the whole vanilla, G-rated feel of GT, and Kaz being what appears to be a humble, reserved and likely conservative person, I would imagine he'd be absolutely horrified at the prospect of "penis cars" and the like in his game. I can't see him ever allowing such a thing to happen.
 
I don't think the format is all that important as long as the image is HQ.

One thing I forgot to comment on is the "emailing to the dev to get them to make a livery." While this sounds like a good idea on its face, I'm thinking PD are pretty wrapped up in work, and will be after GT7 launches, to tend to thousands of emails a week requesting custom liveries with attachments to use - less than 0.1% of even meager first month's sales. I have no doubt that Kaz would much rather we do all that work with a livery tool, and rely on members in the community to serve those who lack creative skills. It works very well in Forza, and this is one aspect which keeps a huge number of the fanbase involved long after a game is outdated, as with Forza 4.
 
Honestly, "emailing to the dev to get them to make a livery." is just too cumbersome. What they could do is have a folder setup for each person's account and that person can upload all the logos they want to use and when it comes to painting the cars using the Livery editor, they can select something like "Custom Logos" and there are the logos they can use to put on the car.

Another way (and its one I seriously wished more people on WMD would've been behind or that many more console racing sims would be behind) is the old Paintbooth from NASCAR 09. You download a template (In PDN or PSD Format), make it in a program and upload to your account in a folder.
 
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Would be cool but some idiots will try using nude or something silly. Its happend before with other games.
 
I think people need to look at the NASCAR painting community to see how morons like that are dealt with. Perfect example of how easily it can be policed.
 
The risks of this are more or less the same as a Forza-style livery editor, just with results that are more... realistic.

I think as long as it's policed, and the punishment for abuse is appropriately strict, this should be a non-issue. But knowing the easily-offended politically-correct world of today, I wouldn't hold my breath for such a feature to be added to a console racer anytime soon.
 
Lain
knowing the easily-offended politically-correct world of today, I wouldn't hold my breath for such a feature to be added to a console racer anytime soon.
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Quoted for utter truth.
 
I dont ever think this will be a possibility cause then they cant pump up the car count with duplicates as easily as they can now.
 
Arixant
I dont ever think this will be a possibility cause then they cant pump up the car count with duplicates as easily as they can now.
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Or they could multiply the total number of actual cars by the total number of liveries possible within the confines of the size of the resulting texture file, then proclaim that to be GT7's car count

1400 cars x 16777216 colors ^ (2048x2048) texture = GT7: Overloaded with cars!!!
 

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