Judging how rare a car is

[ajns73]

Both MYGT5 and GT5Cars websites have a rarity score for their databases. I have found that they are wildly different on 75% of the cars. I believe that both use the total appearances in garages as a measuring stick, so borrow glitching shouldn't really effect the numbers as the more garages the cars show up in the less rare they are scored. Anyway, which site is more accurate with regard to rarity, and are there any other/better resources for determining how rare a car is?

 

[Techy]

No car in the game is rare other than DLCs and X1s, of course. However since you're speaking in how many people own said car, then MyGT5 would have a bit more accurate measure, due to how many people uses this site to organize their GT5 Items. However the rarity shouldn't be taken too seriously, as they're also people who doesn't even have a MyGT5 account but has said car(s).

 

[W3H5]

I think the pre-cap trading destroyed any form of rarity any car had. It's a shame as most cars now are worthless unless they are over the trade limit.

 

[jedi09]

In short, the games UCD is pre-determined by PD. I'm not sure how many "days" there are but some cars appear less "days" in the "year" cycle of the UCD. This is how some people judge rarity of cars. I'll try to find a post of what I'm talking about.

 

[ajns73]

In short, the games UCD is pre-determined by PD. I'm not sure how many "days" there are but some cars appear less "days" in the "year" cycle of the UCD. This is how some people judge rarity of cars. I'll try to find a post of what I'm talking about.

I understand this, however, it seems that borrow glitching and pre-cap trading has pretty much made how often a car comes up useless as a measure of rarity. The way the websites do it, a certain random sampling of garages and what cars are in them, seems to be more accurate at this point since it deals in actual cars represented rather than a theoretical limit based on how often they show up in the UCD. I am just wondering if they update those figures constantly and if there are other resources that might be even more accurate.

 

[BryCivicSi]

I would go off the MyGT figures. It is based off of the # of people registered and if they own the car. I assume it is up to date. When I was looking for cars, it seemed accurate. And seeing how all the Miatas are super rare, that seems accurate. Only collectors will collect all 3 billion variations in the game.

 

[jedi09]

I understand this, however, it seems that borrow glitching and pre-cap trading has pretty much made how often a car comes up useless as a measure of rarity. The way the websites do it, a certain random sampling of garages and what cars are in them, seems to be more accurate at this point since it deals in actual cars represented rather than a theoretical limit based on how often they show up in the UCD. I am just wondering if they update those figures constantly and if there are other resources that might be even more accurate.

Oh, I misunderstood and completely agree. Someone else might want to chime in on this. I had no idea there was a way to track what cars users have in their garages.

EDIT: So only registered garages can be tracked. This makes more sense.

 

[seadog777]

There is an easy way to judge it....

The more you want it, the more rare it will be.

Simples.

 

[Xavier2342]

There is an easy way to judge it....

The more you want it, the more rare it will be.

Simples.

I agree, a car doesn't become rare until it becomes something that you actually want and start hunting for, that can't necessarily purchase right away from the NCD. 👍

edit: However, for the sake of trading in the Marketplace I'd use mygranturismo.net

 

[gthead01]

I think the label "rare" is completely subjective, and therefore irrelevant in terms of statistics. If you want it but can't get it, it is rare, even though I have 5 of them.
Sorry, I will go back to sleep.

 

[ECGadget]

No car is really too rare... Maybe the stealth cars are and the Chromeline ones... But because of all this duplicating, no car is rare anymore. As is no ''rare'' paint. This is why I hate duping. It wrecks the game.

*waits for 100 people to turn against me*

 

[friedi]

yeah no car is rare... why people all the time ask "is this car rare?" some brainers....

 

[DAG0-CHOPPERS61]

They might be new to the game.

i had all the cars before april. all i did was trade like crazy, before they capped it and 1 trade a day.

 

[Alex 3074]

I think the pre-cap trading destroyed any form of rarity any car had. It's a shame as most cars now are worthless unless they are over the trade limit.

^^ This , rare cars were good until the cap . Here's hoping these days are lit up again some time , before the cap the Market place was moving fast constantly , and when that day came ....... Well it's just slow , refresh , refresh , refresh , same :yawn:

 

[Duck]

Why another car rarity thread?

 

[Outeke]

Rare never really existed, not before and not after any cap.
The rare level on mygt, if you look at it, are cars like MX-5 etc from which there are too many in the game. Not so many people are interested in having all of them, so the least bought (and added to mygt) becomes rare level 10....

Everybody complaining about duping and collecting...this is what PD wanted right? over 1000 cars, 1700 gears, 2500 different colors (5900 unique), 279 horns, 1300+ museumcards, and they keep adding.....
Japanese people are all collect-addictive.

 

[Crazed_Coupe]

Both MYGT5 and GT5Cars websites have a rarity score for their databases. I have found that they are wildly different on 75% of the cars. I believe that both use the total appearances in garages as a measuring stick, so borrow glitching shouldn't really effect the numbers as the more garages the cars show up in the less rare they are scored. Anyway, which site is more accurate with regard to rarity, and are there any other/better resources for determining how rare a car is?

I like to think that no car in GT5 is necessarily rare but there is no way to see a 100% accurate idea of which ones are rare and which ones aren't.

 

[ajns73]

Well, it seems this is a baseball card question in the end. Except for the ones that only still exist in 1s and 2s (Honus Wagner's tobacco card), value is completely determined by just how much someone wants it. However, it would seem that MYGT5, if is constantly updated, has the most accurate info on rarity based on cars at-large. And in the end, that's really want I want to know. Unless anyone has anything further to add as far as resources that track rarity (or lack therof), I think this can be considered a closed topic.

 

[Crazed_Coupe]

Well, it seems this is a baseball card question in the end. Except for the ones that only still exist in 1s and 2s (Honus Wagner's tobacco card), value is completely determined by just how much someone wants it. However, it would seem that MYGT5, if is constantly updated, has the most accurate info on rarity based on cars at-large. And in the end, that's really want I want to know. Unless anyone has anything further to add as far as resources that track rarity (or lack therof), I think this can be considered a closed topic.

Well MYGT5 doesn't take demand into account because there could be one of the random Honda S2K's in the UCD that no one hardly has or wants that has a rarity number of 8 while the Chaparral 2J Race Car is owned by a lot more people and more wanted has a rarity scale of 3.

MYGT5 rarity scale is based on how people people go to the website and click on the cars they have it their garage.

 

[ajns73]

Well MYGT5 doesn't take demand into account because there could be one of the random Honda S2K's in the UCD that no one hardly has or wants that has a rarity number of 8 while the Chaparral 2J Race Car is owned by a lot more people and more wanted has a rarity scale of 3.

MYGT5 rarity scale is based on how people people go to the website and click on the cars they have it their garage.

Agreed. Demand is too hard to predict. I was looking more at practical rarity than theoretical. That is, if there are 100 GT5 players and only 1 has X car, it is rare. Obviously, not every GT5 player is represented on MYGT5, but I am willing to accept it as a statistically significant source with the sampling it has. Again, this is why I think looking at what is actually owned is more instructive than figuring it from the statistical probability that a certain car will show up in the UCD X times over X number of days. Going with the garages also takes into account borrow glitching and pre-cap trading because it deals directly with cars-at-large instead of theoretical number of cars that could be out there.

 

[DDAAVVIIDD82]

All the glitching and duping, not only does it make things less rare but it also takes the fun out of the game. I can't deny grinding seasonals and using my uber-fast UCD refresh method, but these idiots that spend their time trying to cheat the system all the way to the top ruin any game. GT5 is not unique. If these fools can't play straight, why do they bother playing at all? Does having a seemingly impressive game status drastically raise your real-life social ranking? *gasp* Cool it David...that vein in your forehead isn't getting any smaller.

 

[ajns73]

All the glitching and duping, not only does it make things less rare but it also takes the fun out of the game. I can't deny grinding seasonals and using my uber-fast UCD refresh method, but these idiots that spend their time trying to cheat the system all the way to the top ruin any game. GT5 is not unique. If these fools can't play straight, why do they bother playing at all? Does having a seemingly impressive game status drastically raise your real-life social ranking? *gasp* Cool it David...that vein in your forehead isn't getting any smaller.

There is no doubt that the less than honorable methods of filling ones garage are distasteful. Unfortunately, they are a fact of life. Which isn't to say we should stop trying to close the loopholes, but this is what we have at this point, so better to be as accurate as possible while taking that garbage into account than to just turn a blind eye or pretend it doesn't exist or didn't happen. I know you weren't suggesting that, but in starting this thread I was trying to find a way to decide which cars in the UCD to buy first time around and which could wait.