Just For The Record...Route Plan

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As some of you know in July I'll be attempting a Guinness World Record for the longest tour by motorbike in a single country. I was debating whether or not a thread would be interesting to read for y'all as I know I'll be asking for lots of tips and advice and I don't really want to clutter other threads with questions on one specific topic. So here is.

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The Overview:

The current World Record for a journey by motorcycle in a single country stands at 18,300km (11,372 miles) by an Indian bloke done in his native country. My aim is 20-22k kilometers around China over a 3 month period.

The attempt will be unsupported meaning no following vehicles to carry supplies. Currently our team consists of three riders; me (Mr. Shem), my Chinese colleague and co-adventurer Slash and a Canadian friend of mine who asked if he could join. I have doubts about my Canadian friend as he is 200lbs (of fat), unfit, closing on 40 years old and doesn't seem to be comfortable roughing it. So for now I'm assuming he's coming but it could go either way, not that I'm fussed.

Highways are out of the question as Chinese law prohibits bikes from using them meaning the route will be covered on everything but. We'll ride mountain paths, desert plains, tundra/ grasslands, village roads of asphalt, dirt and rubble.

Each day will require around 8-10 hours of riding depending on the road quality and the distance already covered. One day a week is scheduled for a rest stop in a hotel/ motel/ hostile (not a typo). For the most part we will camp by the road-side or at designated overnight areas.

I'm yet to select the bikes but have a guaranteed 2 bikes and 20,00RMB for fuel & food costs from my sponsor, Motor Head China (my stepmother's company). I'm hoping your views will help with selection. The bare minimum requirements are reliability, comfort and fuel economy, though, we will be needing to average 500-800km per day so speed might need a slight look in, too. My initial thoughts are to take a very standard Honda CG copy (Chinese version) which is a good all-rounder but I'm more inclined to select something in the 250cc ball park due to previous experiences with China's mountains. Note: anything larger than 250cc is out of the question. End of story.

Media wise, I have tried to coincide the return day with the first day of CIMA Motor Show in mid October, China's second biggest motorcycle trade fair held right here in CQ which my dad runs the foreign marketing affairs for, so a big party basically and lots of TV coverage. Also, since my father & I (we sometime work together) is a freelance motorcycle journalist doing editorials for MCN, British Dealer News, KiwiRider and several other international publications I'm sure some of my journal of the trip can be published in real time. (If you read British Dealer News and have seen any articles written about China's bike market, you can almost be certain I wrote it, check the name.)

I'm yet to begin any prep work other than small purchases which will be used for the trip - just things I pick up here and there. The paperwork is extensive and on top of all of the requirements for evidence Guinness need for verification all of it needs to be translated in to Chinese so signatures can be collected from the relevant officials along the way. My kit list has been growing and shrinking in my head as I think of new things to add and then discount them as necessary; the bare minimum of kit will be taken to keep us lightweight and in order. Anything unnecessary will not be take. Over the next few weeks I will begin to piece together the outfit from the ground up in preparation for a mid July launch.

For now that is about the most I can say as I'm exhausted just thinking about the shear grandeur of this undertaking. The next update should include my mapped route.

Further reading: Man & Machine. Route Plan. Accommodation Dilemma.

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Firstly I'd like to ask if anyone has taken on any kind of similar challenge and what that experience was like. What did the planning involve and how did the task pan out in the end? I'm sure plenty of you have been on some great adventures.
 
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The longest trip I've ever driven was a mere 1,000 kilometers. I don't think it can compare to that. :lol:

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Been looking forward to this. And once you start, I'll want an interview and some photos so we can spread the word. (I'm sure a number of us will)
 
Or don't spread the word so people don't try to break the record too soon :P
 
Good luck, Mr. Shem!

My longest trip on a motorbike was about 700km - one day trip. Man, it was butt pain afterwards. :lol:

I`d like to read a report on weekly/daily basis - pending on events/landscapes etc. Of course: PICTURES!!!
 
Yay, Go Shem! :D

GTP sponsorship? Hmm, hmm... ;)

I was once saved from a lake by a rescue dog for charity. Does that count? Oh, and I bought the Band Aid single in '85.
 
Crap, 22 thousand kilometers over rough roads?

I don't know if saying "go Shem" or "save your butt Shem". It will be an amazing accomplishment, though. I don't have a lot to contribute here as I don't even know how to ride a bike :lol: but man, you have my entire respect.

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Get to know him well...

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Sport a GTP logo perhaps? I wonder what Jordan would have to say about that...

EDIT: AT, I haz deez rather fetching undies >

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AT, I haz deez rather fetching undies >

Mmm, nice. I'm sure my nan had some of those but for a different problem.

In all seriousness, I'm pretty impressed with this whole endeavour and your grit at giving it a go. I think you're one lucky chap to have a chance at this. 👍
 
Very lucky, and I won't deny that. Not many people have an opportunity like this. It will take blood, sweat and tears to complete....the paperwork but I'm sure I've got what it takes....all together now..

♫...to be a record breaker!♫
 
"Note: anything larger than 250cc is out of the question. End of story."

Personal preference, Chinese laws or another reason?
 
"Note: anything larger than 250cc is out of the question. End of story."

Personal preference, Chinese laws or another reason?

Licence issues, fuel economy issues, issues with the law and the factory that is sponsoring me only do up to a 250. It's just best that it's done this way to avoid any unnecessary agro.

My personal preference would be a courier special like an FZ400 or a CB500 but what with those being hard to come by here and certainly not being able to find spares for them on the go they are beyond my grasp.
 
It's not only cars out here that have a smaller displacement. Bikes tend to be smaller, too.

SHEM's reasons are possibly personal. 250cc is more than big enough for the speeds and roads being covered, and wrestling a heavier bike around on rough roads for 8-10 hours a day will get tiring. Also, fuel economy.

Oops. Tree'd.

So, factory limits? I can dig. Perhaps they can make it more challenging and cap you at 50cc? :D
 
I guess the advantage of Chinese bikes is that they use older Japanese tech and are easy to fix/replace :P
The 250cc should be enough for someone with your weight. For that Canadian, I'm not so sure, although 90kg should still be ok.

The added bonus of a CB500 is that it makes mountain roads less stressfull because it has enough power. And they don't weigh that much.
 
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There were 3 of us driving but I've done 3,000 miles/4,828km (Fargo to Columbus, Ga to Fargo) in just over 2 days. Doing that 5 times back to back? No thanks. :lol:
 
Perhaps they can make it more challenging and cap you at 50cc? :D

My next attempt at a World Record will be the under 50cc longest distance. :sly:

Fact is, if I have any trouble with my licence, like it getting cancelled or lost for whatever reason then a 50cc will be my only option as no licence is required.
 
As a 250 rider, I think that makes perfect sense, particularly considering Shem is doing anything but highway riding. Not that a 250 can't ride on the highway -- my Ninja can twist past cars with ease at 90mph, although my dad's '81 Yamaha struggles with 60mph -- but he should have all the power he needs for where he'll be riding.

Sounds awesome, Shem. You da man!
 
Good luck with your endeavour Shem! I'm not really much help with anything else, so I'll leave it to people who know their stuff. 👍
 
Good luck Shem, I spent about 2 hours reading your thread in the Infield. I wish you all the best for this.
 
I can't imagine doing this kind of trip off-road. I understand it's not all actually cross-country, but unimproved roads on a bike just sucks after a while.

I've done 1500-mile weekends on my FJR, a little bit bigger than you're talking about, and on high-quality paved roads. My hat's off to you for this effort.

This has nothing to do with your effort, but it was my first thought when I saw your post. If you want to see some high-mileage fanatics, there is an group here called the Iron Butt Association. The minimum ride to qualify is a certified 1000 miles in 24 hours.

Every two years those guys have a rally. The entrants (invitation only) are given a packet just before the start, from which they learn the point values of places they are supposed to visit. The idea is to collect the maximum number of points during the 10 or 11 days the rally runs, and to arrive at checkpoints on time. Higher point items are more difficult, of course, either by mileage or other access difficulty. The slogan for the rally has been "10,000 miles in 10 days," although in the 2011 event, several rode over 13,000, one did over 14,000 miles!

But these guys are on big bikes, like BMWs, FJRs, Gold Wings, etc. And (mostly) paved roads and freeways. (And no, I'm not one of them. Yet.)

So for what you are planning, I have deep respect and admiration. I look forward to hearing about it later!
 
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For those who think that riding a motorcycle for all that distance will bring hell upon my bottom, let me give you the low-down on my recent experiences.This is a trip which will demand: Fitness. Check. Stamina. Check. Mental mettle. (Prozac) Check. And perhaps an immunity to vibration sickness. :lol:

I'm accustomed to riding, it seems to be in my nature, being male, loving speed and machines and all. I ride a bicycle as my main mode of transport, not because I'm cheap or poor, but because I don't get speeding tickets, traffic doesn't exist on a bike, the fitness benefits are beyond any motor vehicle comparison and like some of you out there I picked up a bike as a small boy and gelled with it. I'm a bike nut basically. I think nothing of doing 100km lap of the city within a couple of hours, especially if I have the chance to dice with traffic at break-neck speeds. :D

Thanks to years of extensive riding I'm not only at semi-pro level (physical) fitness I also have buns of steel. Some have mentioned my poor behind and that I might well end up with some farmers after this tour, but if I haven't developed any yet the last month and 1000km+ on a carbon fibre saddle with nothing but a slither of leather for padding then I'm looking good for the long haul.

My esteemed travelling partner, Slash, is as fit as me, if not stronger but less athletic, due to his larger muscle mass, but then again I do have more than a few inches on him height wise. My Canadian buddy is pretty much on the other end of the spectrum and thinks nothing of a 3 shot tequila dessert after a 3lbs T-bone steak. Yes, he's a huge dude and I've told him he needs to drop at least 25-30kg before the tour otherwise he won't make the finish.

So we're the meat machines, let me introduce the mechanical ones.

Thus far I'm yet to decide what bike to take. We'll each have our own preference and I'm inclined to go for comfort over handling since we won't be breaking the 80mph barrier anyway.

Here's the factory's line up www.motorheadgroup from which we will have free reign although they are a builder not a manufacturer so anything goes regarding engine specs and frame components. I'm listing here some 'off the shelf' models we could choose from if we desire.


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More details are available in the link to the site. All of the bikes will of course be kitted out with panniers and all kinds of travelling storage for our gear.


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If you want to see some high-mileage fanatics, there is an group here called the Iron Butt Association. The minimum ride to qualify is a certified 1000 miles in 24 hours.

Every two years those guys have a rally. The entrants (invitation only) are given a packet just before the start, from which they learn the point values of places they are supposed to visit. The idea is to collect the maximum number of points during the 10 or 11 days the rally runs, and to arrive at checkpoints on time. Higher point items are more difficult, of course, either by mileage or other access difficulty. The slogan for the rally has been "10,000 miles in 10 days," although in the 2011 event, several rode over 13,000, one did over 14,000 miles!

I will definitely check out that group, perhaps they have a forum where I can chat with some of the veterans of high mileage.

I'm wondering if my attempt would be enough to earn me a spot on their guest list for future rides. I think 1000 miles in24 hours is a bit impractical for my WR attempt but I'd definitely give it a crack in future if it put me in with a chance of getting an invite to their association.
 
Awesome stuff.

I don't want to state the obvious, but since you've said you'll be riding on some poorly-maintained roads, and you've got dibs on a dirt bike, that one seems like the obvious choice. I'm guessing you're tall enough for one at the very least.

Only fuel might be an issue on that, since dirt bikes tend to have small tanks. But I can't imagine it'll be too thirsty.
 
My current commuter is a dirt bike, military spec, and has a touring tank on it.

I've done over 150km on the reserve tank alone the last week. In total it holds around 30 litres. Yup, it's a beast. :D Fuel shouldn't be an issue anyway as I plan to take a spare Jerry can as there's no telling the distances between stations in the wilder parts of China.

Also, there isn't any trouble in having a touring tank switched for a standard one.
 
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