Le Mans 2011

[Bobert power]

OMG im so excited to see this. But this will be intense for audi and peugeot. i really dont like peugeot cause they try to steal the spotlight and they choose f1 drivers, who dont have skill in concentration. but i root for audi, good guys awesome cars, etc. Who do you choose for Le Mans! vote any class

 

[Clark]

It's too early to make a thread for the race itself, there is already a general discussion thread for LM.

 

[Bram Turismo]

OMG im so excited to see this. But this will be intense for audi and peugeot. i really dont like peugeot cause they try to steal the spotlight and they choose f1 drivers, who dont have skill in concentration. but i root for audi, good guys awesome cars, etc. Who do you choose for Le Mans! vote any class

Peugeot trying to steal the spotlight?

I'm sorry but that is just utter nonsense. What you are basically saying is only Audi deserves to win Le Mans. Everyone else just wants to "steal the spotlight". Peugeot have working immensely hard on their program to be where they are now. They deserve to win as much as Audi does.

Please spare me the F1 drivers nonsense as well. It is more than clear each and every driver at Peugeot are as good as the crew at Audi.

As of right now and from what I have seen throughout the season so far the Peugeot 908 is a better package overall.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Peugeot trying to steal the spotlight?

I'm sorry but that is just utter nonsense. What you are basically saying is only Audi deserves to win Le Mans. Everyone else just wants to "steal the spotlight". Peugeot have working immensely hard on their program to be where they are now. They deserve to win as much as Audi does.

Please spare me the F1 drivers nonsense as well. It is more than clear each and every driver at Peugeot are as good as the crew at Audi.

As of right now and from what I have seen throughout the season so far the Peugeot 908 is a better package overall.

Agree with everything but the last - bolded - part. The cars that will face each other at Le Mans have only met once yet (at Spa) and on one-lap pace the R18 seemed faster.

True, they didn't replicate their practise pace in the race, but I'll always wonder if what happened is that they went for a very conservative engine management in the race, after being fooled by Peugeot's "sandbagging" (voluntarily or not) in the practise sessions.


Regardless, all cars finished the race, but the one that was hit with more serious problems was a Peugeot. And .... a 6 hour race is nothing compared to the grueling challenge of Le Mans. 6 hours into Le Mans is nothing, we didn't even reach the night

 

[SmittMan]

Is this thread for the race, the series or both??

 

[Bram Turismo]

Agree with everything but the last - bolded - part. The cars that will face each other at Le Mans have only met once yet (at Spa) and on one-lap pace the R18 seemed faster.

On a one lap qualifying pace the R18 did indeed seem faster but the Peugeot was equally as fast as the R18 in race conditions, as well as they seem to run a more fuel economical car. During the race the Peugeots never had to give in to the laptimes of the Audis. In fact, I think the fastest laptime of the race was set by a Peugeot.

They only have met once, yes. But what is my verdict after Spa? Both cars are incredibly close performance-wise to each other, but in the end consistent race pace, fuel economy, as well as being spared from small incidents took the Peugeot team to the victory. Keep in mind the grid positions they started the race from.

Oh, and it also helps a lot if you have an Alexander Wurz behind the wheel apparently 👍

 

[Akmuq]

I still think that it Bourdais will put the #9 on pole( sounds unlikely doesn't it) and the #7 will win the race. But neither will be a one-two-three for Peugeot. As for best of the other P1s, I'd say Pescarolo.

 

[Bobert power]

Peugeot trying to steal the spotlight?

I'm sorry but that is just utter nonsense. What you are basically saying is only Audi deserves to win Le Mans. Everyone else just wants to "steal the spotlight". Peugeot have working immensely hard on their program to be where they are now. They deserve to win as much as Audi does.

Please spare me the F1 drivers nonsense as well. It is more than clear each and every driver at Peugeot are as good as the crew at Audi.

As of right now and from what I have seen throughout the season so far the Peugeot 908 is a better package overall.

well you got me with the spotlight thing but f1 drivers have power but lack concentration as said

 

[Bobert power]

Peugeot and Audi are equal performance wise with Peugeot having power but Audi is lightweight due to a light v6 not a heavier v8

 

[Hun200kmh]

As for best of the other P1s, I'd say Pescarolo.

Nahhh .... it'll be the Highcroft car and team, minus Pagenaud, plus Marco Werner ... (disclaimer: I'm a fan, therefore biased )

Bobert, I understand you're new here but please do not double post (make posts in succession). If you have something to add and you're still the last poster, just edit your original post 👍

 

[Tired Tyres]

well you got me with the spotlight thing but f1 drivers have power but lack concentration as said

Do not claim personal opinion as fact.

 

[MitchZ06]

well you got me with the spotlight thing but f1 drivers have power but lack concentration as said

Total BS, a normal F1 race is around the same amount of time as an average stint in an enduro. BTW, WTF do you mean "have power"?

Peugeot and Audi are equal performance wise with Peugeot having power but Audi is lightweight due to a light v6 not a heavier v8

Even more BS...you do know that they both weigh the same as theres a minimum weight limit in P1? At the Le Mans test day the Audi was 3 seconds or so faster than the Pug, Peugeot more likely than not sandbagging to avoid any ACO wrath for being too fast. However at the race last weekend at Spa the Peugeots were much faster than the Audis so theres no firm indicator here on who will perform better.

 

[Bobert power]

Total BS, a normal F1 race is around the same amount of time as an average stint in an enduro. BTW, WTF do you mean "have power"?

Even more BS...you do know that they both weigh the same as theres a minimum weight limit in P1? At the Le Mans test day the Audi was 3 seconds or so faster than the Pug, Peugeot more likely than not sandbagging to avoid any ACO wrath for being too fast. However at the race last weekend at Spa the Peugeots were much faster than the Audis so theres no firm indicator here on who will perform better.

Woah take it easy mitch! I wasn't paying attention to Le Mans testing this year since i forgot about it but i never thought audi would be faster than peugeot but im more audi ish. But good luck to both teams at Le Mans and the aco wrath part makes since and audi qualified 1st 2nd and 3rd but audi went sluggish by pit or garage. Idk but peugeot was slightly fast so they are even to me now. Like i said good luck to both

 

[hawkeye122]

How bout GT? Im hoping Andy Prialux and the BMW RLL team can take it to the top, after the Art Car crashed last year...

 

[gogatrs]

How bout GT? Im hoping Andy Prialux and the BMW RLL team can take it to the top, after the Art Car crashed last year...

Flying Lizards FTW!
They've been at a disadvantage in the ALMS this year though.

You can't fit anything else into the engine bay of the 997!
I believe it's a 3.8 liter engine if I'm right?
But Porsche has just released the 911 GT3 RS 4.0.
The 4.0 referring to the engine size.
Which means, if Porsche decides to use that chassis/engine combo, they should be up to pace with the Ferraris, Vettes, and BMWs.

Their mechanics are the best.
I've seen them finish refueling the car and changing tires before the driver is even buckled in!

 

[hawkeye122]

Flying Lizards FTW!
They've been at a disadvantage in the ALMS this year though.

You can't fit anything else into the engine bay of the 997!
I believe it's a 3.8 liter engine if I'm right?
But Porsche has just released the 911 GT3 RS 4.0.
The 4.0 referring to the engine size.
Which means, if Porsche decides to use that chassis/engine combo, they should be up to pace with the Ferraris, Vettes, and BMWs.

Their mechanics are the best.
I've seen them finish refueling the car and changing tires before the driver is even buckled in!

Im kinda tired of Porsche. I know it's the standard car, and when they aren't disadvantaged like they are now, the do fairly well. But there just so many, im not a huge fan. But, IF i had to choose a team, it would be Flying Lizard. But since it's inception a few years ago, I've taken my love of BMW's outright, and are now using it to support the team.

LMP? Well, this year I'm undecided... I dont like the low-key colours of the R18, I preferred the R15+. I'm an Audi fan, but this year... things arent too brilliant.

I'm going for Highcroft to get the upset, and I suppose I'll stick by Audi another year

 

[Bram Turismo]

How bout GT? Im hoping Andy Prialux and the BMW RLL team can take it to the top, after the Art Car crashed last year...

I've been rooting for the Flying Lizards for quite some time now, but to be completely honest the Corvettes, 458s and BMWs seem to be the downright faster car.

Looking forward to when they may start use the new GT3 RS 👍

 

[MitchZ06]

Flying Lizards FTW!
They've been at a disadvantage in the ALMS this year though.

You can't fit anything else into the engine bay of the 997!
I believe it's a 3.8 liter engine if I'm right?
But Porsche has just released the 911 GT3 RS 4.0.
The 4.0 referring to the engine size.
Which means, if Porsche decides to use that chassis/engine combo, they should be up to pace with the Ferraris, Vettes, and BMWs.

Their mechanics are the best.
I've seen them finish refueling the car and changing tires before the driver is even buckled in!

Geez gogatrs you're a Porsche fan but dont know they use the 4.0l engine in the 997 GT3 R?

Flying Lizard and the other GTE Porsches actually got a weight break of about 20kg before or after Sebring (cant remember, dgaf about Porsches...CORVETTE FTW! ) so they're actually being let off in terms of performance balancing.

And I'm yet to see a driver change take as long as it takes to refuel a car this year

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Audi got thrashed at Spa on race pace, but Spa is a higher downforce track, and Peugeot have traditionally run the Spa race with a Spa setup, whereas Audi have run it with a Le Mans setup.

It'll be close between them though, that's for sure.

Elsewhere, I hope that the BMW's can win, but I think that Ferrari will have sorted the 458 out by mid-June, and that looks like an absolute weapon.

 

[Furinkazen]

If the Aston AMR-One's can make past 3 hours I'll be amazed. I doubt they'll beat the P2 cars sadly...

 

[MitchZ06]

If it makes it. From the current rules of the ILMC they have forfeited 2 rounds and so will lose a spot at Le Mans, enter Kronos in the old Lola Aston . It'll make a good comparison between the new car and the old car however I've got a feeling AMR will lend Kronos a new AMR-One, 3 drivers and some money....

 

[Bobert power]

Audi got thrashed at Spa on race pace, but Spa is a higher downforce track, and Peugeot have traditionally run the Spa race with a Spa setup, whereas Audi have run it with a Le Mans setup.

It'll be close between them though, that's for sure.

Elsewhere, I hope that the BMW's can win, but I think that Ferrari will have sorted the 458 out by mid-June, and that looks like an absolute weapon.

Go audi at le mans they did well at spa but will be better al le mans for sure
I like tommy miller in bmw but the art car is my fave but porsche has been racing 911 so long they,re not my type anymore and the amr 1 wont survive in my predictions if they kept the lola they might have survived they were great with lola but seeing the open lmp with a fin is awkward but good luck to aston this year

 

[MitchZ06]

Go audi at le mans they did well at spa but will be better al le mans for sure
I like tommy miller in bmw but the art car is my fave but porsche has been racing 911 so long they,re not my type anymore and the amr 1 wont survive in my predictions if they kept the lola they might have survived they were great with lola but seeing the open lmp with a fin is awkward but good luck to aston this year

Tommy Milner isnt with BMW anymore, he's driving for Corvette Racing....

My predictions for Le Mans:

LMP1
Peugeot and Audi wont get a 1-2-3 finish this year, they'll both be on the podium but I'm not willing to be on who'll be on the top step.
The AMR-One will only be a single entry (with the possible 'lent' Kronos car) and will get shown up in reliability by the older Lola Aston from Kronos.
Rebellion will get positions 7 and 8, they're just the best of the petrol LMP1s.
Pescarolo will be 9th going by the above.

LMP2
Oreca will be up there, same with Level 5 if they can sort their suspension issues (multiple failures on seperate races...). Oak, Strakka and RML will also be outside chances for the win.

GTE-Pro
It'll be a fight between BMW, Corvette and AF Corse right thru this race. The Corvettes are fast this year and are proven winners at Le Mans albeit in a higher class. BMW and Ferrari have had past success so no doubt any combination of the three will be on the podium this year, please be Corvette 1-2....

GTE-Am
This class could go either way with Larbre former GT1 winners, CRS a very fast outfit, Flying Lizard are pure class and AF Corse are strong in the F430. Robertson Racing will really have their work cut out to win against such strong opposition, sadly I dont think the GTE Ford GT will make the podium this year.

 

[Hun200kmh]

If you reserve 1st to 6th to the factory teams you are simply forgetting the winner and 2nd placed cars at the longest race so far: Sebring.

Highcroft is by far the best non-diesel LMP1. And if Oreca plays it nicely, they'll be up there ready to take advantage of any problems hitting the factory teams.

 

[MitchZ06]

Yes my bad, totally forgot about HPD since they werent at the test day....

HPD should be up there but I dont think they'll get anywhere higher than 4th (prove me wrong HPD) and Oreca will be strong with the older car but it'll be in the same boat IMO. The top 10 will definately be Audi, Peugeot, HPD and Oreca, no doubt about it.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Well, it's Le Mans ... you never really know. Who would've guessed last year, before the race, the Peugeot meltdown (Oreca car included).

There's no race like this one. Nothing in motorsports beats it. And we are less than a month away for the next edition, with a promised clash of titans. Looking forward to it! 👍

 

[Bobert power]

Well, it's Le Mans ... you never really know. Who would've guessed last year, before the race, the Peugeot meltdown (Oreca car included).

There's no race like this one. Nothing in motorsports beats it. And we are less than a month away for the next edition, with a promised clash of titans. Looking forward to it! 👍

Last year i was a true peugeot hater but i laughed a the meltdown i believe one 908 had the louvers with tape over them making no cooling which caused a fire to the car i loled so hard i loled for 10 minutes.Btw mitch i doubt audi and peugeot will get 1-2-3 finish for their cars but at least one peugeot and one audi will be on podium so i agree with you mitch

 

[MitchZ06]

As per the AUP.
# You will post all messages in English.
# You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.

Cmon man its not that hard...

 

[Bobert power]

Oh dear... Sorry about that i'm used to the texting way. But anyway back to the thread subject.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Highcroft is out. And their partnership with Honda has ended ... I feel like saying a few 🤬 words ...