Le Mans Cars - Should have a Dauer 962

[BKViper]

The mores cars I buy in the game, the more I have realized just how many of the Le Mans winning, and top competing, cars are in GT5.
You could almost run the winning car for every year since 1966!
The major glaring omission being Porsche, due to the licensing issues.
PD was able to get some street cars into the game via the "RUF loophole", which is nice to have a chance to drive them.
Looking over the list of Le Mans winners:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners
I noticed that the 1994 winner was a "Dauer 962". Now this car is basically a Porsche based car that was constructed by a small company.
I am surprised that PD didn't use that opportunity, like they did with RUF, in order to get a Porsche based race car into the game.

Looking over that list too, I wish they would have gone back a little further than 1966. The Ferraris from the early 60's as well as the Jaguar D-Types from the 50's would have been great additions to the outstanding lineup of Le Mans cars in GT5.

 

[NOS Waster]

We should also have the Koenig C62 because it was based on the Dauer 962

 

[slayer91]

I agree on the Dauer, and Porsche's 1996 and 1997 winners were built by TWR (Tom Walkinshaw Racing). Another absent LeMans-winning manufacturer that sticks out in my mind is Matra-Simca (MS670 won LeMans 3 times 1972-1974, plus they have a few other neat looking street cars). A few others not in the game that didn't necessarily win LeMans but were nonetheless successful cars: Alpine-Renault A442B, Jaguar XJR-12, Sauber-Mercedes C11, Alfa Romeo Tipo 33/2, 33TT12, and 33SC12, a mile-long list of Ferrari's, Ford GT Mk. I and Mk. II. Maybe also go the Kremer route to by-pass the Porsche licesing issues. You'd get the 935K1, 935K2, 935K3, 935K4, 962C, 917K81 (1981 modernization of the 917), CK5 (936 with a closed cockpit), CK7 and K8 (both 962's with open cockpits).

 

[BKViper]

We need to get slayer91 a job at PD.

 

[nervous24]

We need to get slayer91 a job at PD.

x2!

 

[sumbrownkid]

Didn't Dauer have huge Porsche backing at the 24 hrs?

Maybe that's why PD avoided this car, its too close to Porsche's image and history, and might have gotten sued if Porsche were anal about it.

Then again, the Porsche name itself gets tossed around liberally in the Ruf car descriptions.

 

[Samus]

Didn't Dauer have huge Porsche backing at the 24 hrs?

They did. I don't think they would be able to get something like this in the same way they couldn't get the NOMAD Diablo in GT3. Well they thought they could, then Lamborghini told them they couldn't but as we know it's still hidden away in some versions of the game.

 

[SS_1182]

I agree on the Dauer, and Porsche's 1996 and 1997 winners were built by TWR (Tom Walkinshaw Racing). Another absent LeMans-winning manufacturer that sticks out in my mind is Matra-Simca (MS670 won LeMans 3 times 1972-1974, plus they have a few other neat looking street cars). A few others not in the game that didn't necessarily win LeMans but were nonetheless successful cars: Alpine-Renault A442B, Jaguar XJR-12, Sauber-Mercedes C11, Alfa Romeo Tipo 33/2, 33TT12, and 33SC12, a mile-long list of Ferrari's, Ford GT Mk. I and Mk. II. Maybe also go the Kremer route to by-pass the Porsche licesing issues. You'd get the 935K1, 935K2, 935K3, 935K4, 962C, 917K81 (1981 modernization of the 917), CK5 (936 with a closed cockpit), CK7 and K8 (both 962's with open cockpits).

Hey, but the Jaguar XJR-12 is in the game isn't it?

 

[Svanum]

There should also be an endurance section in the Specials menu featuring Tom Kristensen. Kinda like the NASCAR one.

 

[slayer91]

Hey, but the Jaguar XJR-12 is in the game isn't it?

Nope just the XJR-9. Another interesting Jaguar race car was the TWR-prepared XJS-12 for the European Touring Car Championship.

 

[tireguage]

I would love to see the infamous Merc CLR from '99. It would be fun to do the Mark Webber "flip" while running down to Mulsanne, or the incredible Dumbreck shunt chasing the Toyota GT-1, which is in the game.

 

[Samus]

I would love to see the infamous Merc CLR from '99. It would be fun to do the Mark Webber "flip" while running down to Mulsanne, or the incredible Dumbreck shunt chasing the Toyota GT-1, which is in the game.

Yeah but instead of landing in the trees you'd just hit the ugly 2D tree wall. 👎 Plus that hill/crest on the Mulsanne has been virtually flattened out now so It probably couldn't happen now anyway.

 

[crooky369]

There's nothing between the GT40 (1969) and the Jaguar (1988) is there?

 

[johngt]

I was surprised we didn't see any of the Acura/HPD* Le Mans Prototypes what with PD being Japanese and Honda being Japanese...
(*Honda Performance Development)

Also, where are the GT1/2/3/4 cars? Since 2005 Aston Martin has had cars all in all four of those categories yet not a single one of them are in GT5 👎

 

[slayer91]

There's nothing between the GT40 (1969) and the Jaguar (1988) is there?

No, Porsche pretty much dominated LeMans from 1970 to 1987, winning 11 times over those 18 years, which would explain why there's no cars from the time frame.

1970-71 Porsche 917
1972-74 Matra-Simca MS670
1975 Mirage-Ford GR8
1976-77 Porsche 936
1978 Alpine-Renault A442B
1979 Kremer-Porsche 935K3
1980 Rondeau-Cosworth M379B
1981 Porsche 936
1983-85 Porsche 956
1986-87 Porsche 962

Of the 54 (many won more than once) LeMans winning cars, 11 are featured in GT5:
2009 - Peugeot HDi FAp
2006-08 - Audi R10 TDi
2003 - Bentley Speed 8
2000-02, 04-05 - Audi R8
1999 - BMW V12 LMR
1992-93 - Peugeot 905
1991 - Mazda 787B
1989 - Sauber-Mercedes C9
1988 - Jaguar XJR9
1969 - Ford GT40
1967 - Ford GT Mk. IV

 

[tireguage]

I was surprised we didn't see any of the Acura/HPD* Le Mans Prototypes what with PD being Japanese and Honda being Japanese...
(*Honda Performance Development)

Also, where are the GT1/2/3/4 cars? Since 2005 Aston Martin has had cars all in all four of those categories yet not a single one of them are in GT5 👎

I agree that Aston is woefully under-represented in the game. I want a DBR9, especially since some had PSP sponsorship.

 

[ebhk]

We need a Special Event, like Sebastian Loeb, Jeff Gordon, just with the Le Mans Track. then you ask, who should be the one who guides you through it?
It Should be Tom Kristensen of cause!

It's the only real thing I miss in the game!

 

[johngt]

We need a Special Event, like Sebastian Loeb, Jeff Gordon, just with the Le Mans Track. then you ask, who should be the one who guides you through it?
It Should be Tom Kristensen of cause!

It's the only real thing I miss in the game!

I love the idea, it could use all the cars he's used in the race (except the Porsche from 1997).

 

[Z1-AV69]

Of the 54 (many won more than once) LeMans winning cars, 11 are featured in GT5:

You missed one unusual suspect:

2009 - Peugeot HDi FAp
2006-08 - Audi R10 TDi
2003 - Bentley Speed 8
2000-02, 04-05 - Audi R8
1999 - BMW V12 LMR
1995 - McLaren F1 GTR BMW-V12
1992-93 - Peugeot 905
1991 - Mazda 787B
1989 - Sauber-Mercedes C9
1988 - Jaguar XJR9
1969 - Ford GT40
1967 - Ford GT Mk. IV

 

[slayer91]

You missed one unusual suspect:

2009 - Peugeot HDi FAp
2006-08 - Audi R10 TDi
2003 - Bentley Speed 8
2000-02, 04-05 - Audi R8
1999 - BMW V12 LMR
1995 - McLaren F1 GTR BMW-V12
1992-93 - Peugeot 905
1991 - Mazda 787B
1989 - Sauber-Mercedes C9
1988 - Jaguar XJR9
1969 - Ford GT40
1967 - Ford GT Mk. IV

The F1 GTR in the game is actually completely different than the 1995 LeMans winner. The one in game is a Long Tail, where as the one that won LeMans has a normal tail and was actually referred to as the F1 LM rather than F1 GTR. It kind of resembles the Stealth F1. I actually have the number 59 on mine like the '95 LeMans winner.

 

[Shinzah]

The closed top newer Aston LMP's. They look and sound great, and I'd happily buy one without fear that I wont blow an engine bank in waning hours of the 24.

Bentley. Peugeot. Imma lookin at you.

Also any porsche. GT. LMP. I don't care.

TRG 2002 GT entry would be ace

 

[MiniMarco]

I would really love to drive a short tail.

 

[slayer91]

Another couple I forgot were the Toyota TS010, Nissan R91CP, Jaguar XJR-14, and the Toyota SARD MC8. If you want a list a of Ferrari's that should have been included and didn't make it I would be more than glad to compile one for you.

 

[BKViper]

I agree that Aston is woefully under-represented in the game. I want a DBR9, especially since some had PSP sponsorship.

I was hoping to see one particular Aston..."One 7 7". Sex on wheels!

And what about all the great classics like the DB5?

But I guess PD didn't have room on the disk for a few more Astons, as it might have taken up space for the 35 Skylines or 25 RX-7s.

 

[slayer91]

But I guess PD didn't have room on the disk for a few more Astons, as it might have taken up space for the 35 Skylines or 25 RX-7s.

Your forgot about the 34 MX5/Miata/Roadsters

 

[alonsof1fan91]

I recently saw this clip at youtube:




We really need a Porsche 917 and a Ferrari 512 badly.

Edit:
As a Tifoso I hope that Ferrari returns to LeMans one day. Its so sad that they left the sport car championships in the 70s.
Another interesting fact, eventhough Ferrari only competed in Le Mans till 73, they won the 24h of Le Mans 9 times. Porsche won the race 16 times, but they could concentrate on Le Mans only (Ferraris priority was F1) and competed in more races.

 

[gtone339]

Of the 54 (many won more than once) LeMans winning cars, 11 are featured in GT5:
2010 - Peugeot 908 HDi FAp
2006-08 - Audi R10 TDi
2003 - Bentley Speed 8
2000-02, 04-05 - Audi R8
1999 - BMW V12 LMR
1992-93 - Peugeot 905
1991 - Mazda 787B
1989 - Sauber-Mercedes C9
1988 - Jaguar XJR9
1969 - Ford GT40
1967 - Ford GT Mk. IV

Its the 2010 version.

 

[Shinzah]

And is therefore the opposite of "Winning".

 

[slayer91]

Its the 2010 version.

But the car won in 2009.

 

[Joker-GTBR]

The Ferrari 333SP deserves to be in this game. Wasn't a LM Winner, but won many events