Le Mans Prototype World Championship

[F1WORLDCHAMPION]

I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a championship with Le Mans prototypes ranging from the old group C cars from the 80's and 90's to the almost current Audi R10's and Peugeot 908's. I have not seen any series that are currently running with only Le Mans prototypes so I thought I might make one.

The specs will be based around a 700 hp, 700 pp Bently Speed 8 which I think has a manageable speed while keeping the speed of a Le Mans Prototype. This car can consistently run in the 1:59's at spa and can sometimes get into the 1:58's. I only have about half of the LMP's so I would greatly appreciate some help with the specs.

The Championship will start in Britain then travel through Belgium, Germany, Italy and Monaco then go to Japan, USA, then back to Europe in Spain and finally it will finish with an Endurance race in France at Le Mans. There will be a race for every country featured in GT5 other than Switzerland. The tracks for each country will be decided by which is most popular. The races will last around one hour other than a 3 or 4 hour for the finale at Le Mans.

I would like to start this within 4-6 weeks but it depends on the interest. Races will mostly likely be on weeks without an F1 GP starting at 8-9 pm GMT on a Sunday night.

I hope to see some interest and if you have and recommendations or questions just let me know.

Cars(will be updated every day)
Bentley Speed 8- 700 hp 900 kg 700 pp (I'm driving this)
Peugeot 908 HDi FAP- 749 hp 930 kg 712 pp (turbo)
Toyota Minolta 88C-V- 729 hp 850 kg 709 pp (turbo)
Nissan R92CP- 798 hp 900 kg 706 pp
BMW V12 LMR- 857 hp 900 kg 711 pp (turbo)
Pescarolo C60 Hybride-Judd- 817 hp 900 kg 708 pp

Tracks(these may be changed)
London
Spa
Nurburgring 24h
Monza
Monaco
Suzuka
Laguna Seca
Madrid
Le Mans

 

[P1K3Y_M1k3Y]

Looks interesting

how long will the races be? (laps/time?)

depending on when you start I may join but i am currently running my own race series
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=284103

If you can wait until that has finished then that would mean my sunday evening where there no F1 full again

 

[surge9000]

You dont want to run Group C at london, madrid or monaco. That'd be like um... trying to drive a road car around a miniature golf course.

Group C was killed early 1990s. Anything later like speed8, audis, 908s are prototypes. They're different beasts, but running them together is in the spirit of Le Mans, so why not? The group Cs will be barrelling along mulsanne, but then the prototypes will catch up with better grip in the corners. It works out very even when on medium-fast tracks and they are both in *actual* race trim (not maxed out default).
If enough show interest, why not include GT(E)s as well?

Some *race, not qualifying or special mod* stats to help you out:

Min weight for group C: 800kg
Min weight for LMP1: 900kg
Max power for group C: wildly variable, around 700-900bhp
Max power for LMP1: 720bhp
Group C approximate average race laptimes at La Sarthe (post chicanes): 3:30
LMP1 approximate average race laptimes at La Sarthe (post chicanes): 3:30

The ACO always modifies weight to try to make the race more even. I suggest you do a pre-season session at La Sarthe under the guise of 1st race qualifying and check and permanently set weight and power there... unless you know average laptimes for all of the tracks and want to bore everyone every race with that.

ABS is banned, TCS is allowed. DONT F.U.C.K THIS UP LIKE FIA MEDIA AND MOST GT5 PEOPLE DO!!

If everything checks out, I'm in with a 787 spec'ed as true to the #55 1985 one as I can make it. Or if enough enter, I'll defer to a GT just to make it more real, and give the spaceships something to pass every now and then. At least for La Sarthe. Only IMSA/Group C/... ran at Nürenburg. None of them ever seriously ran anywhere else you mentioned except Suzuka or Spa, which I don't have. The other tracks are too short; listen to how strangled this poor group C Mercedes C9 is on the Nürenburg FIA track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQVWvNIzVSc

 

[WilliamsRCN92]

ABS is banned, TCS is allowed. DONT F.U.C.K THIS UP LIKE FIA MEDIA AND MOST GT5 PEOPLE DO!!

Might as well ban all aids because TCS is just useless in GT5.
And anyone that uses Group Cs with ANY aids is a complete moron in my eyes.
This is not FIA, this series is not rigged.

Well... F1WORLDCHAMPION, in my WEC, the Bentley was 591hp and we could achieve 1'59s at Spa... with ease might I add... So one-hundred-nine more horsepower would probably put it into the 1'56-1'57 range.

 

[freshseth83]

Yea, you should leave the Bentley to 600hp, the R92 to 660hp the 88CV to 640hp the BMW to 650hp the 908's to 640hp and the Pescarolo's to 660hp all stock weight.

 

[surge9000]

Seems a bit low, but lap times should be the ultimate test. I suggested figuring it out at La Sarthe because a) that's the grand finale race, b) it doesn't limit the audience to Spa snobs. Potential entrants will likely not bother if they cant do any testing, and c) they publish real ones for free:
http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers...ures-du-mans-2012-classifcation-after-24h.pdf

I've not seen ones from Spa (admittedly, I haven't searched) and the whole exercise is pointless if you just make them up yourself. Might as well set everything to default/max.

Of course you have to do something to prevent "tanking", so that's why I suggested using a combined qualifying/regulation setup the same as the ACO do.

...which you will find in the also freely available official rules, along with how wrong GT5 people normally get driving aids.

Unfortunately, they don't have a browsable archive as far as I know, which makes the group C stuff difficult and it likely was never put on the Internet because it didn't exist back in 1980s, so even the wayback machine wont help like it might for the available prototypes.