Low rev drifting?

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After watching a couple other people drift I found out they drift around 2-5k revs and never go higher then that. I've been doing the complete opposite I been shifting at 9 thousand rpm.

Drifting at low revs?

Whats the benefits? does it create more speed? more angle?
 
I dont. I go all the way up to redline and bounce off the limiter if I need to gain a bit of grip. I usually only see wheel users mostly at 5k RPM in 5th, I only assume to save changing gear.
 
Yeah I've noticed that too. Not sure why, maybe something to do with the wheel. I use the ds3 and like to keep it at high revs, bouncing off the limiter. Although I wouldn't do that to much in my real car lol
 
I use a wheel and I rarely bounce off the limiter, first because it sounds ****, but more importantly coz it'll make my car straighten.
The only places I do it is when linking two close corners.
By the way my cars rarely go over 460hp (I don't like overkill tunes) so its not like they hit rev limiter at each throttle pressure.
 
Depends if we're talking N/A vs turbo, as well as high vs low displacement(type of engine as well, piston vs rotary)...then gearing also kind of makes a difference, size of the course...etc
 
Its funny because I do that to avoid pouring tons of smoke while exiting a corner, if I shift on my Supra for exemple (from 3rd to 4th) it'll smoke untill 2000rpm before the redline (and sometimes can be annoying for people behind).
Megamarc has a point!
I mainly drift 6cylinders turbo engined cars (1/2JZ mainly) so theres no real need to go really high on the rpm to drift on slow corners.
I just bought a Levin, next time I play I'm gonna try it and see if I need to hit the rev limiter.
 
The AE86 tends to stoping sliding when you hit the limiter as I seems to bounce off it slow. Unlike the RX7 which bounces fast off the limiter.
 
Almost everybody drifts at high rpm. What you see is the slow server. It's not fast enough to show the rpm changes while a car is drifting, that's it
 
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monsterGAUZ
Almost everybody drifts at high rpm. What you see is the slow server. It's not fast enough to show the rpm changes while a car is drifting, that's it
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This.
Most people do drift at higher rpm's, it just doesn't show in the replays or when spectating...
 
I wondered that because yesterday I saw Gauz on Fuji and he was in 5th @ 2500rpm on the last corner of the D1 section (even with 750hp it was kinda surprising).
 
Warren4649
I wondered that because yesterday I saw Gauz on Fuji and he was in 5th @ 2500rpm on the last corner of the D1 section (even with 750hp it was kinda surprising).
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I reved it to the limit ;) Alot of people asked this and it's everytime the same reason with the slow servers
 
Even using a high rev turbo on my RX7, sometimes stickin' it in 5th and just "low rev drifting" it is the best way.

Off topic : Is it good technique to come into a corner with a higher gear (e.g. 4th) and then whilst drifting in the corner, potentially drop the car a gear or two to keep grip?
 
I do it a lot! Either to get more angle (and then go back to the upper gear) or to tone down the drift (because sometimes my 4th is making me having too much angle).
 
I thought about the low looking revs in lobbys and came to a decision that its not that its slow servers.
You know if you have good andle at say 60 mph and it says 20 mph. The rev gauge is clocked to the speedometer.
If you dont understand ill try to explain better.
 
Its pretty much impossible to drift at 5000 rpm, Unless you have 5000hp then it makes sense, But if your talking about when you spectate you see low rpm drifting thats lag...

There's a reason why we use the clutch and use manual transmission

(to keep the rpm up)

With that being said I'll repeat myself, it's almost impossible to drift at that low of rpm.
 
Powellx235
I thought about the low looking revs in lobbys and came to a decision that its not that its slow servers.
You know if you have good andle at say 60 mph and it says 20 mph. The rev gauge is clocked to the speedometer.
If you dont understand ill try to explain better.
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I don't know how the speedo works in GT5, if its like in real life (in relation with the driving train) or if its just the relative speed (like with a GPS).
 
monsterGAUZ
Almost everybody drifts at high rpm. What you see is the slow server. It's not fast enough to show the rpm changes while a car is drifting, that's it
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That makes more sense. When ever I see you doing a hairpin your like in 5th gear at 2k RPM which I never understood how it could be possible.
 
If it does´nt bogg down the engine, i like to use it to create more forward momentum whilst keeping the same amount of angle. Nice for entering and exiting corners.

It does depend on the car though. I mostly do it in the Silvia K S13. 279Hp. Autum Ring mini reverse, i´m usually in 4th or 5th.
 
In my opinion, it depends more of the car than the driver. Take the AE-86 as exemple, even at 9k rpm on the 2nd and 3rd gears it still spamming lots of torque.
Otherwise some other cars after get the top rpm, it cuts the torque and regain the grip, what is awfull for a drift line.

And some cars cannot sustain low rev and still sending torque to the wheels. Right now i remember my Z4, witch is smooth on the 4th gear but stills sending the right ammount of torque to keep drifting. But taking again the AE-86 as exemple, if you engage the wrong gear while drifting, youre simply screwed because the engine will barely die.
 
daltonlm
In my opinion, it depends more of the car than the driver. Take the AE-86 as exemple, even at 9k rpm on the 2nd and 3rd gears it still spamming lots of torque.
Otherwise some other cars after get the top rpm, it cuts the torque and regain the grip, what is awfull for a drift line.

And some cars cannot sustain low rev and still sending torque to the wheels. Right now i remember my Z4, witch is smooth on the 4th gear but stills sending the right ammount of torque to keep drifting. But taking again the AE-86 as exemple, if you engage the wrong gear while drifting, youre simply screwed because the engine will barely die.
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A 4ag..... torque??? Bahahahahahaaa :D

Your right though, AE86s in real life too really need you to keep the shoe in through the corner. On entry most low powered cars, rely on the flick and then planting the throttle to keep the drift going.

big powered cars like V8s and very torquey engines get away with far less throttle input to sustain a drift as too much will see you spinning away all your grip and spinning out.

For example, my AE86 and 2002 requires almost full throttle everywhere after imitation.

My Z4m, S-bodies and some other cars with around 3-400bhp especially the NA ones such as most of my BMWs need a fair bit of throttle and maybe 3-6K and upto the redline out of the corner to keep the drift going.


Then in the case of my Viper and other huge torque monsters with grunt all through the rev range, I'm rarely using full throttle or need the let the engine rev to the redline apart from the odd track that has very long corners that would be flat out in 5th gear.
 
Different cars, different driving styles. Two cars I've been using quite a lot lately are the Lexus SC430 and the Honda S2000.

The Lexus has a 4.3 litre V8 with ~550hp and huge amounts of torgue, will pull in any gear and hence I find myself taking hairpins in 3rd at 3000rpm, then going right up the rev range to about 7000rpm before having to even think about changing gear. I find it pretty lazy to be honest! Haha.

The S2000 on the other hand is a 2 litre (?) turbo'd VTEC, meaning all the power and torque comes at about 5500rpm, meaning I'm forever changing gear in it. But, to me it's more enjoyable, know that if I let the revs drop too much it'll bog and I'll have to change down or lose momentum. It's a lot more work, but I find it more rewarding consequently. For example, earlier today I was doing the Fuji D1 section with it and had to change from 5th to 4th midway through the first corner as it was starting to bog, even at those high speeds.
 
RufusGonePunk
Different cars, different driving styles. Two cars I've been using quite a lot lately are the Lexus SC430 and the Honda S2000.

The Lexus has a 4.3 litre V8 with ~550hp and huge amounts of torgue, will pull in any gear and hence I find myself taking hairpins in 3rd at 3000rpm, then going right up the rev range to about 7000rpm. I find it pretty lazy to be honest! Haha.

The S2000 on the other hand is a 2 litre (?) turbo'd VTEC, meaning all the power and torque comes at about 5500rpm, meaning I'm forever changing gear in it. But, to me it's more enjoyable, know that if I let the revs drop too much it'll bog and I'll have to change down or lose momentum. It's a lot more work, but I find it more rewarding consequently. For example, earlier today I was doing the Fuji D1 section with it and had to change from 5th to 4th midway through the first corner as it was starting to bog, even at those high speeds.
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Qft
 
daltonlm
In my opinion, it depends more of the car than the driver. Take the AE-86 as exemple, even at 9k rpm on the 2nd and 3rd gears it still spamming lots of torque.
Otherwise some other cars after get the top rpm, it cuts the torque and regain the grip, what is awfull for a drift line.
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Thats so true!
Unfortunately at low-mid RPM's most cars put out to much torque, which leads to a twitchy line if your pedal management isn't good.
It's hard to find the right setting for each track.
 
just depends on wheel speed vs ground speed ideally you want to be in the right gear for your speed too be in the sweet spot of your engines torque for max responsiveness to increase/decrease slide, ideally lol. some areas of torque and combinations of wheel speed are easier than others for example a low speed corner exit could take some easily controllable max power slide the entry and midpart of that very same corner would have required a much much more precise control of wheel vs ground speed hence the "feathering" or pulsing of thr throttle to keep your rpm/wheelspeed just right.

once you get better control of your slides you will be able to slip in and out of grip much more smoothly the key to which is weight transition and throttle control

wouldn't say there's too much choice about it you drive to suit the engine, cars weight handling and the track etc.
 
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