Lowest PP Challenge Triple! - 4a, 4b and 4c: Season Events 29/12

[Conza]

Online A Challenge has given us 3 different PPs to work under - which makes this latest version so much more awesome!

4a - High Speed Ring

I've completed this using one of my favourite all time cars, a Volkswagen Lupo GTI with a respectable 353PP starting point.

I was going to start at 360PP, but the Lupo jumped out from the list (ordered PP Desc.) as a good choice, and hey, won it first time. Watch out for 1st and 2nd place, they took more than the first lap for me in my Lupo.

I think this 'might' be possible with as low as 335-340PP, see how you go good luck! Record is 353PP

4b - Trial Mountain Circuit

I think a difficult starting point should be about 420PP - but amazingly the record is also...


353PP!
I went into this thinking 'oh yeah, 3 races, all 400PP, should be fun', beat the first challenge, onto Trial Mountain.

Initially being immediately slower I thought 'oh, well, it’s a slower track than the High Speed Ring' when it was loading an NSX Type-R left me a bit confused/shocked 'Huh? Under 400PP, oh well'.

Drove around, and narrowly missed 1st place to, you guessed it, the NSX Type-R. This irritated me but determined, I had another go, still thinking it’s a 400PP event.

I got my lap time down to the high 1:42.X, and on the 4th lap I got my time down to 1:41.1! Which was crazily fast, fast enough after being in 2nd for 2 laps, to catch the NSX on the 2nd last corner (just before the giant chicane), I passed him, and he was immediately on me, but with a corner cut here and there, I got away and won with more than 3 seconds to spare!

So good luck beating my 353PP with that one, remember its 500PP max, I'll be pretty impressed if anyone can beat this with a 360PP/355PP car let alone anything under 353PP (Has to be under to knock me off).

4c - Grand Valley Speedway

The lowest typical opponent is a 619PP, so I think a good 570PP should be possible here, possibly lower, haven't attempted this one yet, but I'm in the mood to try it with an E9X M3, and I'll see how I go with 570PP.

And that's all the events here covered!

Remember as usual, we are using Racing Soft tires, and any mods go, its all about the PP, increase your weight to up the power, decrease power to increase the aero, anything you like, the car and the number is the only thing important.

Also, a side comp for the lowest tires is sort of piggy backed off this, this means any PP goes, and the lowest tires win, Comfort Soft 451PP > Sports Hard 450PP, that should cover you in case you want to know if you're the 'Tire king'.

Enjoy people! Since this is so diverse I can't wait to hear some of the combos attempted.

 

[StevenDunn99]

I stuck RS on the new Toyota 86GT and turned up the engine limiter to give me 345 PP - I took the lead before the tunnel on the third lap for an easy win.

I can still reduce the 86GT's PP by adding weight and with TM being one of my favourite circuits I may give this a bit more attention over the coming days with other cars.

EDIT: +200kg ballast to give 334 PP. I took the lead on L3 as before but needed a transmission tweak.

 

[pauloSandar]

I won the first one using a tuned VW Schwimmwagen, so it's obviously easy. The third one was a bit more difficult, but still quite easy to win.

 

[-raVer-]

Won Trial Mountain with a stock 335 PP Mazda 2 on RS vs. a Shelby Series One SuperCharged by 0.5 seconds.
3rd was the Griffith 500 , 19 seconds back.

Total RaceTime was 8:46.389 and the best lap was a 1:43.3xx



raVer

 

[Conza]

I stuck RS on the new Toyota 86GT and turned up the engine limiter to give me 345 PP - I took the lead before the tunnel on the third lap for an easy win.

I can still reduce the 86GT's PP by adding weight and with TM being one of my favourite circuits I may give this a bit more attention over the coming days with other cars.

EDIT: +200kg ballast to give 334 PP. I took the lead on L3 as before but needed a transmission tweak.

You're talking about Trial Mountain right?

Won Trial Mountain with a stock 335 PP Mazda 2 on RS vs. a Shelby Series One SuperCharged by 0.5 seconds.
3rd was the Griffith 500 , 19 seconds back.

Total RaceTime was 8:46.389 and the best lap was a 1:43.3xx

raVer

If the above is for TM, then I think you'll have to try again at 333PP, I know I will be, but even still good job to both!

 

[-raVer-]

You're talking about Trial Mountain right?



If the above is for TM, then I think you'll have to try again at 333PP, I know I will be, but even still good job to both!

Won TM with a 322 PP , stock New Beetle 2.0 on RS vs Lotus Esprit V8 by 1.8 seconds.


Is that enough for you ?




raVer

 

[Conza]

Won TM with a 322 PP , stock New Beetle 2.0 on RS vs Lotus Esprit V8 by 1.8 seconds.

Is that enough for you ?



raVer

Probably too low for me to beat, but I love a challenge, so 321 here I come (Lupo GTI for sure for the first attempt)!

 

[-raVer-]

Probably too low for me to beat, but I love a challenge, so 321 here I come (Lupo GTI for sure for the first attempt)!

I guess the Lupo has too less power and weight.
Try something with more power and weight , the Beetle had 105 ? bhp at 1220 kg.

btw you have to try it stock to be better , since the Beetle was stock


raVer

 

[Conza]

I guess the Lupo has too less power and weight.
Try something with more power and weight , the Beetle had 105 ? bhp at 1220 kg.

btw you have to try it stock to be better , since the Beetle was stock


raVer

Well, no I don't, I just won it 321PP! As the comp says, its all about the PP, so now 320 is the number to win with, my Lupo did it 9:01.165, with a best lap (final lap) of 1:46.991

It has 99BHP 1175kgs (after full ballast), I think its fully broken in too.

It's also stock anyway, spare for the transmission, since the car started off being more powerful, it couldn't rely on its now 'too large' transmission to properly use its power for this track, so a custom transmission, power limiter and a ballast was all that was changed.

Now I wonder if it can win the first comp too? Somehow I don't think so, considering how much speed it needs and the limited laps, but hey, I think it'll be the new record for that one too if it does...

EDIT: Well not with the same transmission mind, but yes, small transmission tweak and hey presto, 1:27.230 best lap total time of 4:28.857

New record for both now - I still haven't got around to winning with the third challenge, I keep being greedy with the PP, I've done silver with a 575PP, anyone beaten it with something close to that (hopefully a bit higher)?

 

[-raVer-]

i have a new PP record for the TM race , but if I tell you , you won´t believe it.
I only say , it is far less than 321 PP.

If I have the time and the possibility (only have the PS3 for Internet) , I upload a video of that race.


raVer

 

[Conza]

i have a new PP record for the TM race , but if I tell you , you won´t believe it.
I only say , it is far less than 321 PP.

If I have the time and the possibility (only have the PS3 for Internet) , I upload a video of that race.


raVer

Nice! I actually like it when there's a new challenge, from within a challenge, please do upload it, you may as well tell us what you did it in and with, so I can try (and from the sounds of things try and fail).

 

[-raVer-]

Nice! I actually like it when there's a new challenge, from within a challenge, please do upload it, you may as well tell us what you did it in and with, so I can try (and from the sounds of things try and fail).

OK , it is a...

Opel Corsa Comfort with 83 bhp and 306 PP


raVer

 

[Conza]

OK , it is a...

Opel Corsa Comfort with 83 bhp and 306 PP


raVer

Awesome, look forward to the upload dude - I think I'm gonna bring out the Panda!

305PP here I come!

Btw, that couldn't have been stock could it?

 

[-raVer-]

Awesome, look forward to the upload dude - I think I'm gonna bring out the Panda!

305PP here I come!

Btw, that couldn't have been stock could it?

Totally stock , not even an oil change but with RS tyres


raVer

 

[Mike Rotch]

Nicked GVS in a 111R by 3 seconds - 520pp and RS Could probably make it at 515pp with some cleaner laps (best was a 1:51xxx).

 

[StevenDunn99]

OK , it is a...Opel Corsa Comfort with 83 bhp and 306 PP raVer

Looks like today's challenge is to win TM with <300 PP.

 

[Conza]

Looks like today's challenge is to win TM with <300 PP.

The next stage is for our drivers to get out and crash all the other cars then walk with a PP of 1

 

[BWX]

Didn't notice Trial Mountain was 500pp til after I won it with a GT86 w/400pp that I used on the first 400pp event.

There was an NSX ('02 I think) rabbit car in the lead, I beat it the second race. Was a good challenge though.

edit.. on S/H tires.

 

[SlyckTires]

Won GVS with a stealth GTR on 540pp but i think I got lucky with the opposition - tried later on 530 and wasn't even close

Also won trial mountain in a bone stock Toyota 86 '12 on 402pp and sports hard tyres, by 5 sec

 

[Conza]

I've been able to get 2nd with relative ease using low PP, its usually first who I cant even see.

 

[-raVer-]

Here we go with the Corsa





raVer

 

[StevenDunn99]

I've been able to get 2nd with relative ease using low PP

Similar here with 300-305 PP, getting 2nds and 3rds depending on the field but 1st eludes me. I have been playing with the Golf GTi Mk1 and Ford Ka.

UPDATE: Won with 304 PP. Ford Ka, stage3 turbo, all intake upgrades, custom tranny set at 106mph, RS and Power Reduction. Two things that made a difference;
- adding all intake updates and reducing the power further to compensate meant that I could climb the hill just a little faster
- getting a lucky grid; as anyone who tries this will know the big problem is top speed on the two long straights, so you need a grid that gives you as many chances as possible to slipstream plus have no runaway leader(s).

 

[Conza]

Similar here with 300-305 PP, getting 2nds and 3rds depending on the field but 1st eludes me. I have been playing with the Golf GTi Mk1 and Ford Ka.

UPDATE: Won with 304 PP. Ford Ka, stage3 turbo, all intake upgrades, custom tranny set at 106mph, RS and Power Reduction. Two things that made a difference;
- adding all intake updates and reducing the power further to compensate meant that I could climb the hill just a little faster
- getting a lucky grid; as anyone who tries this will know the big problem is top speed on the two long straights, so you need a grid that gives you as many chances as possible to slipstream plus have no runaway leader(s).

I was talking about 4c, not 4b but anyway, nice work, upload a vid and youll be the current leader.

 

[StevenDunn99]

nice work, upload a vid and youll be the current leader.

I do not have the replay. Not really bothered about an 'official leader' just keen to try something different to see what I can do. From my efforts I do not think I can do 300PP, I will maybe have one more go later.

I do not think of it so much as skill (TM in a low powered car does not need a lot of skill) as being creative in finding a car and setup that might do it, but I am running out of ideas.

Nice idea to suggest this though, it is fun. 👍 Although we already knew, it also reinforces how huge an advantage/PP RS give you.

 

[Conza]

I do not have the replay. Not really bothered about an 'official leader' just keen to try something different to see what I can do. From my efforts I do not think I can do 300PP, I will maybe have one more go later.

I do not think of it so much as skill (TM in a low powered car does not need a lot of skill) as being creative in finding a car and setup that might do it, but I am running out of ideas.

Nice idea to suggest this though, it is fun. 👍 Although we already knew, it also reinforces how huge an advantage/PP RS give you.

Yeah I prefer RS as you can get the full potential out of the car that way. Alright, raVer is still the current leader, as it stands anyone who can beat 304PP leads.

We also have 4a and 4c to think about people, so there's two other challenges for you there.

 

[dudeondacouch]

Nicked GVS in a 111R by 3 seconds - 520pp and RS Could probably make it at 515pp with some cleaner laps (best was a 1:51xxx).

That must have been a lucky draw.

Running 1'49.0 laps and still WAY off the leader.

 

[Conza]

That must have been a lucky draw.

Running 1'49.0 laps and still WAY off the leader.

Yes, I won with a lead for two laps, in a 650pp car, and I was in the 1:41s, so this does sound very challenging