Lumina question

[takumi64]

A friend of mine said the Chevrolet Lumina is a RWD car.
But I've heard from other people that it's actually a FWD. Is this true?

 

[1X83Z]

Both the Lumina sedan and the Lumina APV minivan were front-drive.

 

[skip0110]

I think the only RWD minivans were the Aerostar and the Astro/Express. Wait, was the wacky mid engined Previa FWD or RWD?

 

[ND4SPD]

And the earlier Mazda MPV's.

 

[1X83Z]

I think the only RWD minivans were the Aerostar and the Astro/Express. Wait, was the wacky mid engined Previa FWD or RWD?

The Previa was rear-drive, though an all-wheel drive version was available throughout its entire life. In fact, by 1995 the majority of Previas were All-Trac all-wheel drive models (if you ever want to fool someone ask them what the only supercharged, Japanese all-wheel drive car is - it's the Previa).

The Astro and Express are two different models. Astro's twin was the GMC Safari, not the Express, which is a larger cargo van built by Chevrolet (whose twin is the GMC Savana). Both are indeed rear-drive (though the majority of Astros and Safaris have been sold with all-wheel drive for years) but most stop short of calling the Express a minivan (and if you were to include the Express in a list of RWD minivans you'd have to also include Savana, plus the Dodge Ram Van, Dodge Sprinter, and Ford E-series).

And the earlier Mazda MPV's.

If you classify them as minivans.

 

[Duke]

If you classify them as minivans.

Which they are, to everyone except possibly you.

 

[toyomatt84]

Which they are, to everyone except possibly you.

What? Am I not mistaken if this is a Chevy Lumina?

 

[skip0110]

We're talkign about the APV.

 

[Duke]

What? Am I not mistaken if this is a Chevy Lumina?

I was referring to this:

And the earlier Mazda MPV's.

If you classify them as minivans.

The Mazda MPV is a minivan, except Doug seems to think differently, for some reason I've never been able to fathom.

 

[GroupB]

Don't forget there was also a Lumina coupe for a while

 

[Emohawk]

This? I think those are pretty cool, actually.

 

[Firebird]

It is entirely possible that your friend is talking about the overseas Chevrolet Lumina, based on the Holden Commodore and Monaro, which is RWD.

 

[1X83Z]

The Mazda MPV is a minivan, except Doug seems to think differently, for some reason I've never been able to fathom.

The current MPV is obviously a minivan.

But I absolutely categorically REFUSE to classify THIS THING as a minivan, just because the manufacturer wanted it so:

I won't play lackey to manufacturers. Car magazines do it enough. By 1997, the MPV was a five-door (hinged of course - not sliding), four-wheel drive (NOT all-wheel drive) SUV. It was aimed at SUV buyers, styled like an SUV, and had interior and exterior dimensions of an SUV. It was actually a pretty decent SUV too, if you could get past the stupid minivan crap (I recommend them used - I love the styling).

Meanwhile, same vein: the Buick Rendezvous IS a minivan. Once again, the manufacturer can say what it wishes but when you give a vehicle a minivan platform, a minivan powertrain, minivan seating, a minivan ride, minivan styling, minivan dimensions, and upscale minivan options, it's a minivan. If it looks like a duck...

 

[skip0110]

But I absolutely categorically REFUSE to classify THIS THING as a minivan, just because the manufacturer wanted it so:

I won't play lackey to manufacturers. Car magazines do it enough. By 1997, the MPV was a five-door (hinged of course - not sliding), four-wheel drive (NOT all-wheel drive) SUV.

That is just so biased. Maybe in the later years Mazda tried to put a crossover spin on their minivan, but just because it has 5 doors and 4WD (and you can find a picture of it mounting a rock) does not make it a SUV. The 1st gen Odessy had 5 doors--and it was very much a minivan. And the MPV did not even have 5 doors--it had 4...there was no rear door on the driver's side, just like a sliding-door minvan. The MPV looks much more van-ish if it's not sitting on a rock.

 

[1X83Z]

That is just so biased. Maybe in the later years Mazda tried to put a crossover spin on their minivan, but just because it has 5 doors and 4WD (and you can find a picture of it mounting a rock) does not make it a SUV. The 1st gen Odessy had 5 doors--and it was very much a minivan. And the MPV did not even have 5 doors--it had 4...there was no rear door on the driver's side, just like a sliding-door minvan. The MPV looks much more van-ish if it's not sitting on a rock.

The MPV All-Sport (the one I pictured) is the one I'm angry about - it was the 1997 and 1998 Mazda MPV. Indeed, the All-Sport model did have five doors, in addition to SUV exterior and interior dimensions, SUV styling, four-wheel drive, and an SUV ad campaign. The only thing that made it a minivan was Mazda, who said it was. Previous to 1997, MPVs got more and more SUVish as the years progressed, but I concede that those models were vans.

The first-generation Honda Odyssey and twin Isuzu Oasis had five hinged doors but minivan dimensions, styling and advertising. They didn't offer a six-cylinder engine, either, or all- or four-wheel drive.

 

[kingkn8]

A friend of mine said the Chevrolet Lumina is a RWD car.
But I've heard from other people that it's actually a FWD. Is this true?

What year is his lumina because that are select few years where they did make a RWD performance model lumina with a w8 for a motor really rare if he has it tell to hang on to it. If it is any other motor that than W8 such as a v6 (2.8,2.5,3.1,3100,3.4 twin dual cam, 3400, or 3.8 series 2) that it is a FWD

 

[Driftster]

Looks, just like a SUV

Speaking of SUV's Anyone see that new SUV that is supposed to break all the previous boundries of SUV'S? It'll go over anything I mean it looks rugged as all hell

Not to mention you can offroad with a handicapped child strapped in the back!

 

[1X83Z]

Looks, just like a SUV

The funniest part is that you completely missed every single post I had on the topic:

The current MPV is obviously a minivan.

The MPV All-Sport (the one I pictured) is the one I'm angry about - it was the 1997 and 1998 Mazda MPV.

Not only did I say the MPV All-Sport (1997-1998 only, which I also said) was the only one I thought was an SUV, I even said the current MPV - whose picture you posted - was unquestionably a minivan. So all you did was prove your inability to read once again.

As I said - funny.

 

[Driftster]

People just have no sense of humor these days my goodness M5, for once look for someone's replies as something else than a blatent insult. Look at them for comedic irony. Or is it too much laughter risks prostate problems?

 

[Sniffs]

huh. british freind of mine said that it looked more like a Vaux Senator. tho this does confirm my suspicions. BTW...america had a Z version for the chevy.
mine was FWD...and underpowered. 140 something Hp/PS, probably 100kw?...pushing 4300 lbs/1950 KG of car around

 

[1X83Z]

People just have no sense of humor these days my goodness M5, for once look for someone's replies as something else than a blatent insult. Look at them for comedic irony. Or is it too much laughter risks prostate problems?

I realize you said it sarcastically, but you meant what you said, which I found comedic because you chose not to read my posts but rather to simply reply, a tactic you've perfected.

 

[Delirious]

would you consider a suburban a minivan if it had rear sliding doors instead of normal doors? would you consider the dodge caravan a "cross over SUV" (for a lack of a better description) if it had normal doors instead of rear sliding doors?

 

[1X83Z]

No, everyone's completely misinterpreting the things I said. The hinged doors were just one of about ten factors that made it an SUV - go back and re-read it. Hell, in that post I later said that the Buick Rendezvous is a minivan... and it has hinged doors!