Mazda 6, Yah Or Nah?

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Hey, guys, what's up? I'm sort of new into the car scene and I fell and love with the Mazda 6 5-door (hatchback) when I first saw it on Gran Turismo 4. If it wasn't for that game, I still wouldn't be interested in cars whatsoever. Anyway, according to one of my friends, he said that I shouldn't get a Mazda 6 because according to my friend's friend, he said he had engine trouble. Is this true? If so, can you guys tell me what to do if this happens? Thanks for your time.
 
Hmm well it does have the Duratec Ford 3.0 V6 for the top of the line model, which is also shared in the Ford Taurus Mazda Tribute and possibly a few more Ford/Mercury cars. From my Dad's Tribute with that engine, we so far have had no trouble with that engine. Except for it having trouble with starting up due to the battery. Other than that I have heard nothing bad about it's engine unless we're talking about the 4 cylinder engine.
 
Haven't heard anything bad about the new Mazda/Ford fours or the six. There are some people who have niggles with the AT, but I haven't heard of failures of those either. They're not the best engines in the world, but the quality is up there.

Ask your friend what his friend was doing to the car before the trouble started.

Oh, and yes, a definite Yea to a Mazda6. Sweet handling cars.
 
Well, um, what (according to your friend) constitutes “engine trouble”? That can cover a myriad of issues… That’s like going to a computer-help forum and saying “My computer is slow” – we need more info to be of any help. ;)

Anyway, I’m trying to find a used Mazda 6 for myself, but only if it’s in s trim – the i is a four-cylinder with a very narrow usable torque band (C/D said that it takes almost 3000rpm just for the clutch to hook up).
 
niky
Haven't heard anything bad about the new Mazda/Ford fours or the six. There are some people who have niggles with the AT, but I haven't heard of failures of those either. They're not the best engines in the world, but the quality is up there.

Ask your friend what his friend was doing to the car before the trouble started.

Oh, and yes, a definite Yea to a Mazda6. Sweet handling cars.
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I assume that my friend's friend as an AT Mazda 6. I want the Mazda 6 with a MT.
 
Sage
Well, um, what (according to your friend) constitutes “engine trouble”? That can cover a myriad of issues… That’s like going to a computer-help forum and saying “My computer is slow” – we need more info to be of any help. ;)

Anyway, I’m trying to find a used Mazda 6 for myself, but only if it’s in s trim – the i is a four-cylinder with a very narrow usable torque band (C/D said that it takes almost 3000rpm just for the clutch to hook up).
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A fine choice, Sage. My other half had a 2.3 as a lease car in 2004. I found it to be pleasantly sporty, and the exhaust note was surprisingly satisfying. Be sure to fill us in when you pick up your 6. :cool:
 
My bud, Jason, has a black Mazdaspeed 6 and he loves it to death. I mentioned him once on this site during an incident earlier this year.

Get the Speed6 if you want one. I drove Jason's twice now, and it really is a fun car.
 
I'll just say this:

Don't buy any car because you liked it in a video game.

Go out and drive the rest of the cars in that segment, you'll save hundreds and find a better suited car.
 
Yeah.... but if you test drive, you might end up buying it anyway. It's a nice car.
 
Mazda 6 👍 My only quibble is that the big torque is in the higher revs, and the clutch is a bit tricky; too low and it really bogs, too high and the wheels spin. Great car though; very connected to the road. My mom hasn't had any problems with hers. I'm considering buying one for myself once I graduate and find a job. Maybe the Mazdaspeed version :)
 
My parents had a 2.0 Mazda 6. It was great. Nothing ever went wrong with it in the 14 months we had it. The only thing we noticed was the ride was quite firm, but you notice it more on the bumpy roads of Britain I suppose. The car was quite sporty too, and fast enough for us (well, it feels slow now compared to the 3.0 Jag :)). My Dad was surprised when the car could actualy slowly accelerate up a hill from 30mph in 5th gear.
 
Samberto
A fine choice, Sage. My other half had a 2.3 as a lease car in 2004. I found it to be pleasantly sporty, and the exhaust note was surprisingly satisfying. Be sure to fill us in when you pick up your 6. :cool:
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Uh, notice I said “trying to find”, and with a budget of $15,000. ;) Not easy (I can’t even find a used Mazda 3 s for that price range). I actually did find a 2003 Mazda 6 s Wagon, in silver, for $14,995, but somebody snatched it up first. :grumpy:
 
Ev0
I think they're only shipping a limited number of the Mazdaspeed 6 to the US.
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How limited? :irked:

I went with Jason when he picked his up, and there 6 more on the lot, with 2 more coming in....

Then again, that was 2 months ago and I haven't seen any other Mazda dealer sellin' them.
 
5000 Mazdaspeed 6's to the U.S. each year. Shouldn't be a problem for availability; not that many people care about it (it's their loss :)) Only people who are really in the know are going to pay $30,000 for a Mazda sedan.
 
I have heard the car has horrible turbo lag, takes a while for it to start spinning, otherwise, its a really nice car in and out.
 
You’re referring to the Mazdaspeed 6, right? The Mazda 6 (in both i and s trim) doesn’t have a turbo.
 
RobcioPL
I have heard the car has horrible turbo lag, takes a while for it to start spinning, otherwise, its a really nice car in and out.
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Car and Driver said the opposite--that it has minimal lag, and a farily smooth power delivery.
 
For whoever has a Mazdaspeed 6 do not put anything less than high octane premium fuel...
The car knows what octane fuel it is burning by using a couple of sensors (Iat, fuel trims, cat. warm-up, etc.) If it senses 91 or below octane fuel it will open the wastegate up at 4200rpm to save the motor. You have no boost. From what I heard around half the cars got 87 from the port, so usually the complaint is right around when they pick the car up.

If you try to cheap out with the MPS 6, you won't have any boost past 4200 rpm as punishment.

I'd suggest trying to put the highest octane unleaded gas in the car that you can find. The difference in power between 87 and 93 in this car is probably around 50-75 bhp if its cutting boost OFF after 4200 if you run 87.
 
Personally, I do like the Mazda 6 better than the Honda Accord EX or Toyota Camry SE... The car fells much more sporty, and overall feels like a better value. The 6M tranny is a gem, but I really cannot say the same for the 3.0L Duratec V6... Although it was revamped to fit Mazda standards, its still a Ford-sourced V6 with a fairly modest power output and an overall thrashyness that is shared with most American V6 engines...

...But I digress, it is one of the best performance sedans out there. But beware:

1) The models can get expensive, fast. Many of the options on the car can only be had in a package, and some packages require the selection of several to just get (for instance) a sunroof.
2) The plain-jane four door sedan/saloon actually performs a bit better than the hatchback because of a slightly lower weight and slightly stiffer body construction overall. However, the station wagon may handle a bit better because of a better weight distrobution... But I am not sure.
3) Take a good look a MKIV GLX VR6 Jetta and Nissan Altima SE V6 before heading to the Mazda dealer as they are great alternatives to the 6s.
 
^guess what: any model of any car gets expensive fast if you start tacking on options. Ever see how much a fully loaded Camry or Accord goes for? Those two cars can start to kiss the $30,000 mark if you try hard enough. Camry? Booooooooring. Accord? Uuuuuuuuuugly. I'm seeing a lot of new 6's on the road, which is good, because maybe people are finally realizing that Mazda makes (and always has made) damn fine cars. 👍
 
STi or Evo ...no question about that.... the Madza might be ok, but you can't compare it to those two rally street versions.... :) 👍
 
Raghavan
Now why the hell would anyone get a MPS 6 when a Subaru Legacy is a bajillion times better?
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The Mazda is more powerful than the Subaru (275hp in the Mazda vs. 250hp), and the Mazda has a 6 speed transmission as opposed to the Subaru's 5 speed. I'd love to see a performance comparison between the two, but I'm sure the Mazda would have better handling. Also, the Mazda will most likely have a better resale value since it is a limited production model.

Max_DC
STi or Evo ...no question about that.... the Madza might be ok, but you can't compare it to those two rally street versions.... :) 👍
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Might as well be comparing apples to oranges at that point! The STi and the Evo are in a completely different league than the MS6. And a different price and insurance bracket too.
 
Ev0
Might as well be comparing apples to oranges at that point! The STi and the Evo are in a completely different league than the MS6. And a different price and insurance bracket too.
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Yes they are in a different league, concerning performance. The price of these three cars in Germany is the same : about 40 k EUR.
 
Raghavan
Now why the hell would anyone get a MPS 6 when a Subaru Legacy is a bajillion times better?
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Well, comparing the MazdaSpeed 6 Sport model
MS6:
$28,555 (GT=$30,485)
274Hp
mileage=19/25

Legacy 2.5 GT (c'mon, the stock Legacy has no chance)
$28,795
250Hp
Manual: 20/26 mpg
Automatic: 19/25 mpg

They are a bit equal in terms of cash, just the Legacy seems a little underpowered, and better or equal in mileage.

So, in terms, they are pretty equal.
 
Freedom Gundam
Hey, guys, what's up? I'm sort of new into the car scene and I fell and love with the Mazda 6 5-door (hatchback) when I first saw it on Gran Turismo 4. If it wasn't for that game, I still wouldn't be interested in cars whatsoever. Anyway, according to one of my friends, he said that I shouldn't get a Mazda 6 because according to my friend's friend, he said he had engine trouble. Is this true? If so, can you guys tell me what to do if this happens? Thanks for your time.
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Nah,


Mazda uses Ford engines and Ford is which "real car fans" know, is crap.
 
*McLaren*
Well, comparing the MazdaSpeed 6 Sport model
MS6:
$28,555 (GT=$30,485)
274Hp
mileage=19/25

Legacy 2.5 GT (c'mon, the stock Legacy has no chance)
$28,795
250Hp
Manual: 20/26 mpg
Automatic: 19/25 mpg

They are a bit equal in terms of cash, just the Legacy seems a little underpowered, and better or equal in mileage.

So, in terms, they are pretty equal.
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The Legacy looks much better imo, because Mazda screwed up the MazdaSpeed's grille, and the Legacy has AWD.
 

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