
I'd rather own a V8 Civic than a V8 Neon.
I'll take the Neon.
Or maybe a rotary, RWD Protege. Get the thing to shut up and you've got a sleeper (Although silencing a rotary should be illegal)
barryl: And why do rotaries suck (Again I must point out that it's "rotaries", not rotary's. I'd figure you'd have remembered that type of thing from english class.)?
Also, IIRC, the Frankenfocus didn't need to get tubeframed to fit an engine that is physically the size of a big block in width. (Actually, it's wider than a 427 side oiler.)
So I wouldn't jump to conclusions all that quick. I have done no reading on this car other than this thread, as I don't have the patience for extra pages to load on dialup. So, it WOULD be safe to say that I am relatively poorly informed on the subject of this car. However, can it be said that this car was poorly executed? If you have to hack that much of the car up, why didn't you simply rip EVERYTHING off it, make a tube frame, (nice and light, and VERY stiff, preferably.) and bolt all your panels onto that? So that the entire car is just sheetmetal wrapped around tubing and nothing else.
However, if a better approach had been taken, it wouldn't have been needed. It's fully possible to fabricate a k-member that can support a SBC. Might need to cut into the shock towers a little, but you could just ditch them with a Mustang II front suspension. (And maintain stiffness)
There's nothing you can't stuff a small block chevy in. Even if it WOULD be better with a Ford. (And a Ford would fit just as easily.)
toyomatt, if you can PROVE that there is not room for a SBC in the engine bay of a Civic, I might start rethinking that. Without those shock towers, almost anything will fit.
If a Focus can fit a mod motor in the engine bay while still having the shock towers intact, why the HELL can't a Civic support a SBC? Don't say weight, because an aluminum LS1 doesn't weigh all that much.
Since we were running a full vette drivetrain, we don't even need to clear the trans at the firewall, just the torque tube. So why did it need that much hacking, again? Sure, we need to cut upward a little to make it clear perfectly and raise the center of the floor. One or two tubes crossing through the firewall and it's gonna be STIFFER than stock. Sure, a little hacking at the back to get the rear suspension/trans in, maybe a couple crossmembers as well, whatever. Total weight added would be about 5-600lbs.
Back to barryl: If you like light weight and rev-happy cars, any RX-7 would suit you other than being RWD. You must hate rotaries because you got dusted by one. Why else would you?
Sorry to be a prick, but hey, it's the way I see things.