Mercedes F1 W08 On Mount Panorama

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Bought this car as I thought it would be great, and took it for a spin a out Bathurst, which I’m pretty good at.

Normally in the nismo gr.2 I can get through the top of th3 mountain pretty good. Coming towards the 2nd sector I drop 2 gears, the chuck it thorough the right the sharp left, before belting towards the sharp left hand at the end.

In the W08, even with no gas in and slowed right down, I’d oversteer, and I couldnt figure out why. Is the to simulate lack of Downforce? Or should this car only be steering very shallow?
 
meck_rb7
I hope it's broken. I don't think it fun to drive ATM. No news from PD, but i hope it will be patched next update!
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How would you know? I just found at real low speed that it would just oversteer, no brake not gas, just a sharp corner (The Esses and Forrest elbow mostly).

Oh and weirdly it's like an electric car in that dropping through the gears, it doesn't.....until you scrub speed off, and then if cycles down to the gear, meaning you cant use the drop ion gear as your braking cue.
 
coleadve
How would you know? I just found at real low speed that it would just oversteer, no brake not gas, just a sharp corner (The Esses and Forrest elbow mostly).

Oh and weirdly it's like an electric car in that dropping through the gears, it doesn't.....until you scrub speed off, and then if cycles down to the gear, meaning you cant use the drop ion gear as your braking cue.
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I noticed the best way to drive this thing especially thru slow corners is to keep a little throttle on when turning to help anchor the rear end, especially very slow speed corners. The chicane at Suzuka if I go thru there coasting I will spin every time even staying off the curbs.
 
fastone371
I noticed the best way to drive this thing especially thru slow corners is to keep a little throttle on when turning to help anchor the rear end, especially very slow speed corners. The chicane at Suzuka if I go thru there coasting I will spin every time even staying off the curbs.
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Yea and be in the gear one higher than you normally think to be in. It doesn't like 2nd gear let alone 1st. They're mainly for getting off the line.
 
I also think it’s worth noting that an F1 car from 2017 isn’t designed to go around Bathurst, so you might struggle in general.

Like if you look at Jenson’s lap he’s not in, what you would call, a full quali lap setup :lol:
 
100% stock car. No aids other than default ABS.

Third lap, and a lot of time to be gained, but I spun out next lap, so I figured I'd share this time.

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phil_75
So is this car broken or is this how it's supposed to be?
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I don't know, but if you brake early and wait for the downshift (or upshift i'm not sure what is what :lol:) to finish before you turn the wheels, then it's easier to drive, but I don't know if it is a bug or not.
 
I wouldnt buy it until they fixed it. I feel like I'm not interested in learning how to drive a faulty car.

You do need it if you want to do the leagues.
 
Isnt it like a real F1 that if you drive to slow the car is not controllable ? You need downforce and hot tyres.

I have not bought the car, so just asking.
 
Did a 1:40.745 lap with
- RSS tyres
- ABS on, all other aids off
- LSD Initial = 5
- LSD Acceleration = 20
- LSD Braking = 20
- Brake Balance = -1
- front Toe Angle = 0
- rear Anti-Roll Bar = 6
- all other car settings at default
- no Power/Weight upgrades







 
Clean Racer
Should I buy this car? Is it worth the credits? Is it useful with a power reduction to try and simulate a GP2 car?
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I bought it, it's a hard car to drive, but it's not impossible, I just brake early, releases the brakes and wait for the upshift or downshift to finish and then I turn the wheels, but you have to do this before the turn or the car will spin out, but it happens only in slow speed turns, but if I was short on credits I would rather buy the Mazda 787B or any of the other new cars and if it is a bug (which we don't know for sure yet) it will be fixed at one point.
 
I don't think the car is broken at all. There are many examples of how an F1 car is totally uncontrollable at low speeds whilst turning a corner. It will just spin. Does anybody remember when Richard Hammond from Top Gear tried driving Renault F1 car around a track. He could barely drive it because he couldnt get enough heat into the tyres or enough downforce at low speeds for it to stick to the tarmac. It kept oversteering on corners. Exactly how this car behaves at low speeds on sharp bends. I use a G29 wheel and I am really enjoying using this car
 
Macboyilija
Isnt it like a real F1 that if you drive to slow the car is not controllable ? You need downforce and hot tyres.

I have not bought the car, so just asking.
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Lewis Hamilton himself mentioned this exact technique to Kaz in the Nurbring lap video.

The car is not broken. You have to drive it differently.

It's not a Megane TRophy or Ford GT
 
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Macboyilija
So thats exactly as I thought, as @Leighton M also states.
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I drove it on Monza, quite fun. Have to be wide on the chicane's. 1:36.02 was my best time. For fun I ran a few laps at BB Raceway, Barely have to break!

Got cocky and did a quick race at Nurbring GP. That's where I started to run into problems. That track is tricky to begin with, add in that car and it's enough to drive you crazy.
 
I've been struggling with it doing the races in Campaign mode. I don't think it's broken. It's not meant to be easy to drive... it *is* an F1 car and there is a reason why not every driver who aspires to drive F1 makes it. So far I've been able to get it round Suzuka, but in a kludgy, amateurish manner. The chicane no longer causes me an issue, but the hairpin I was either under-steering off the track, even when nearly stopped, or spinning out. If you get too slow, the throttle response stops all together and the car doesn't accelerate for several seconds. You've pretty well much got to have a certain amount of throttle the whole time. So far my best finish has been P6. The F1 car from GT4 was much friendlier to drive.
 
Leighton M
I don't think the car is broken at all. There are many examples of how an F1 car is totally uncontrollable at low speeds whilst turning a corner. It will just spin. Does anybody remember when Richard Hammond from Top Gear tried driving Renault F1 car around a track. He could barely drive it because he couldnt get enough heat into the tyres or enough downforce at low speeds for it to stick to the tarmac. It kept oversteering on corners. Exactly how this car behaves at low speeds on sharp bends. I use a G29 wheel and I am really enjoying using this car
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You are right on the part where you have to drive a F1 car hard to have grip and warm brakes. But please explain me the downshifts then? I'm sure it's a bug and i'm sure you can drive around the bug a little bit, but this is not how a F1 car supposed to handle.
 
The car has a handling problem on downshifts
If you notice it’s like it pulls the clutch in when you shift down gears while your braking, then once you release the brake most it releases the clutch and as the revs catch up to the engine speed
A sudden dose of engine braking is delivered causing a spin

Best way to get around it is either hold higher gears so instead of 1st or 2nd try 3rd and 4th
Or trailbrake a long way into the corner so when you get off the brakes you can be turning less with less lateral load on a car and this clutch release won’t cause a spin

My thoughts anyway
And it seems to work that driving technique still awkward to drive though
 
Ryan Sandall
Best way to get around it is either hold higher gears so instead of 1st or 2nd try 3rd and 4th
Or trailbrake a long way into the corner so when you get off the brakes you can be turning less with less lateral load on a car and this clutch release won’t cause a spin
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This is good advice from Ryan.

Until something changes to the car, it's the technique to use to drive the W08 into slow corners without spinning. Never use 2nd gear, this car doesn't like it, and it will make you hate the car. Once this driving technique becomes familiar, the W08 eats up corners, and spits them out.

When it all clicks and it is understood how to drive this car hard, it's an intense experience to drive and control it....especially around the Nordschleife, it's mental







 
So they've fixed it now:
  • Fixed an issue wherein driving the Mercedes-AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+ 2017 (both Standard and Colour Variation models) it was not possible to properly shift down while braking.
 

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