Midfield Supercar Shootout '15 Review
NO weight reduction, stock trans and no aero? Interesting idea that left me skeptical until I trued a few. Brilliant idea, and great list of cars. So
@CSLACR I say thank you for a great Shootout, to the tuners I say great job and great tunes.👍👍
All tunes were given 10 laps in each direction, a few tunes received a few extra laps.
Time set to 13:00 for both directions since that removed shadows from reverse.
Tested with DS3, manual trans, left stick steer, triggers for brake/gas, ABS 1, sensitivity +2.
Arcade Mode with Grip set to real.
Tunes were tested in the order listed, but were reversed for the reverse layout, i.e.; 1-13 then 13-1 with my tune being last in both directions to be as far removed from it as possible. Any questions concerning the review, please just ask. If DC explanation wanted, I will explain. These are my impressions and may differ from others. My times are the best I could achieve, if slower than your own I apologize but gave it my best effort.
@doblocruiser :
Lap time forward - 1:11.476
Lap time reverse - 1:12.493
Combined - 2:23.969
Average - 1:11.984
DC - 8.5
Personally, (obviously) I am more of a Vette guy and have never been a fan of the Brute that is the Viper. This tune felt like what a Viper is, fast but hard to keep the rear in check. It had a tendency to slide the rear or jump sideways on throttle, and the brakes could have been a bit better to slow this beast down. When I could keep it straight it was not bad.
Reverse was a different animal, much better and seemed to suit the tune better. Surprisingly quick in this direction and much more enjoyable. Still could slide but was easier to control strangely enough. Tackling the crest was fun and set up a really could lap time. The car choice was a tough one and you took the challenge and did very well. Great job.
You matched the time of the Scud in reverse.
@Brewguy44 :
Lap time forward - 1:11.589
Lap time reverse - 1:13.049
Combined - 2:24.638
Average - 1:12.319
DC - 8.5
Read the beginning of the review above. This was one of the best Viper tunes I have ever driven. Stable, easy on throttle and gave confidence. Excellent handling and for the most part the brakes did their job. What hurt this car was what helped it in the downforce, but the biggest issue in my opinion was the stock gearbox. It seemed to be to far stretched to be competitive with the faster cars. Still, I really enjoyed it and gave a higher DC for that reason.
@DaBomm4 :
Lap time forward - 1:11.766
Lap time reverse - 1:13.550
Combined - 2:25.316
Average - 1:12.658
DC - 8
It takes a brave soul to tackle an F40 with no ballast and no weight reduction to aid this beast. I took one to the latest TT and only completed 2 laps, got the gold and got out. That was after 8-10 incomplete laps where I aborted and changed setting, and yes reduced weight and added ballast. You managed to improve the car quite well but I still had a hard time keeping it under control. Many good laps ended when it decided to be unruly and let the rear decide where it should go (no worries, you won't get a bill to repair the guardrails
). I applaud the effort and bravery, but it was more than I was able to handle.
@xande1959 :
Lap time forward - 1:10.363
Lap time reverse - 1:12.944
Combined - 2:23.307
Average - 1:11.654
DC - 8
Goodwood turned me off to this car but your tune started to change my mind. Early braking helped entry, if late you would miss it, would understeer if too fast in, oversteer too fast out. Still was not bad and put up a good time.
Reverse was a completely different story as it just did not mix with my driving. Never found a good line and was always searching for grip. Slid too much and the time suffered. Better driver will likely reward you with better times.
@shaunm80 :
Lap time forward - 1:10.790
Lap time reverse - 1:12.146
Combined - 2:22.936
Average - 1:11.468
DC - 8.8
The more stable and comfortable of the two 458's, faster on reverse. Forward I left too much time on the track as it should have been 3 tenths faster. Just a hint more rear rotation and it would have been awesome.
@TurnLeft :
Lap time forward - 1:10.528
Lap time reverse - 1:12.283
Combined - 2:22.811
Average - 1:11.406
DC - 8.8
The faster and wilder of the two 458's. Could 4 wheel drift if pushed too hard but just felt faster than shaun's. The one thing I did notice was on longer corners, the nose liked to raise quick causing understeer. If I lifted, it dropped quick causing a see-saw effect if not properly controlled with the throttle. Still, faster than shaun's forward. Well done Sir!
@Otaliema :
Lap time forward - 1:10.615
Lap time reverse - 1:12.493
Combined - 2:23.108
Average - 1:11.554
DC 8.8
Just like shaun's 458, aided with the downforce, stable and safe with still an ability to throw around enough to make it quick. Just not as fast as the 458's. Brakes worked well and no notable handling issues for me. Good job building one I didn't need to drift to go fast (remember, I cannot drift a lick
).
@Motor City Hami :
Lap time forward - 1:10.980
Lap time reverse - 1:13.031
Combined - 2:24.011
Average - 1:12.006
DC - 8.5
An excellent tune that did everything right, except go fast. Maybe just a touch of mid-corner understeer but great launch on exit. Guess this is why the car is referred to as Godzilla, it was glued and felt faster than the time showed. I believe this car was (and felt) heavy and under powered compared to some of the others. Still, an incredibly enjoyable tune.
@787bcgr :
Lap time forward - 1:10.577
Lap time reverse - 1:13.290
Combined - 2:23.867
Average - 1:11.934
DC - 8.5
Just like Hami's, felt heavy and slow with just a little more willingness to rotate. His was better on entry, this one mid-corner. Forward it may have benefited by going immediately after Hami's which made it feel like a 20 lap run instead of ten. On reverse, yours was up first returning the favor. Different but felt very similar and the average times show it. Well done.
@Thorin Cain :
Lap time forward - 1:10.360
Lap time reverse - 1:12.166
Combined - 2:22.526
Average - 1:11.263
DC - 9.2
If there was a sleeper tune in the field, this was it. How does a Raging Bull sneak up on you? By giving more than expected. Juan Pablo Montoya said, to drive a NASCAR at Martinsville you need to enter the corner like a gentlemen but exit like
AN ANIMAL. Easy in an fast out made this tune fantastic. Could have a bit of an attitude on entry and mid-corner but more than made up for it on exit and pulling down the straights, like a bullet out of a gun. Awesome through the crest on reverse if taken just right.
I really loved this tune, fantastic job.
@DolHaus :
Lap time forward - 1:09.327
Lap time reverse - 1:12.251
Combined - 2:21.578
Average - 1:10.789
DC - 9.5
Another big surprise!!! This thing was tempermental and needed to be driven a certain way. Somehow, I really got along with it by keeping slightly on throttle through the corners and squeezing the throttle gently. The lap times just continued to drop. It was frustrating though as I had 2 or 3 laps where i was ahead of the ghost and believe I could have gotten under 1:09.
Just failed to get it done.
Reverse however, was not this tunes friend, still fast but much more difficult to achieve. Still, it was sooo fast forward, it was deserving a high DC in my book. Outstanding tune, just don't do reverse with it.
@Ridox2JZGTE :
Lap time forward - 1:10.764
Lap time reverse - 1:13.842
Combined - 2:24.606
Average - 1:12.303
DC - 8
Jekyl and Hyde tune, fast forward once I figured out what it needed, over demanding in reverse. Too much understeer on reverse and I never got it right to get it fast. When driven right and patient however, it was fast forward. Not quite the underdog of
@DaBomm4 , but a tough choice non-the-less. Hopefully some else will get it better in both directions.
@brian wolf :
Lap time forward - 1:09.906
Lap time reverse - 1:12.013
Combined - 2:21.973
Average - 1:10.986
DC - 9.7
Brit in a Yank Tank? Well, this was 2nd fastest forward, 2nd fastest reverse, but maybe the best tune in the field. Easy to have fun and go fast, just keep the rear in check on exit. Very willing to maneuver through the S curves in both directions and very consistent as well. Only thing it needed was a better coat of paint. Maybe Jetsream Blue Metallic Tintcoat, or Laguna Blue, maybe LeMans Blue from the '06 Z06 or even Dusk Blue. Could have given you another .2 DC
Thanks for a wonderful drive, the crest was a bit tricky or else I might have gotten a better time on reverse.
@Bowtie-muscle :
Lap time forward - 1:09.986
Lap time reverse - 1:11.431
Combined - 2:21.417
Average - 1:10.706
DC - 9
Very happy with this tune as is, maybe just a little better on entry and it may have been as good as brian's. Do believe mine was a touch better on exit and easier over the crest. Managed 2 really good laps on reverse otherwise it would have been behind his in time. I can see how others would choose his over mine although I would choose my own. In the end I expect mine to be behind his in lap time and DC. But I would not change anything, definitely not the paint anyway.
**All Combined times and averages are subject to human error. 
and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I had to look up a word you used in the wiki dictionary,
, nice
, that suits me well
. 
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I can't believe I was the only person to choose it. My first choice got stomped on...twice (458) So I sought out a back up, it was a toss up between this and the Gallardo in the end and after half a lap in this the choice was too easy. What a machine this car is PD gave the Super Fast Bat a whole lotta love 
I only had time to run it on forward. Happy nonetheless, considering that I kept changes at minimal from the setup it was based on even though it's more than 200kg heavier.
