MOBO for Intel i5 2500k (or 3570K) + MSI GTX560TI

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I'm likely to be getting a Intel 3570K Ivy Bridge CPU and I'm not planning on overclocking. Do I need an aftermarket cooler (CoolerMaster 212)? I mean as long as I'm not overclocking should I even be concerned?

I hate starting new threads so I might as well change the title of this one and continue a new discussion:

A MOBO is the last thing left for my build and I'm going back and forth with my choices. So I pretty much can't decide on anything now. My build will have GTX560TI and either a Intel i5 2500K or a 3570K (since I'm no big CPU over clocker). This is where I get mixed up - do I need an Ivy bridge mobo? What is the best cost effective solution to my problem (that includes going for a 2500K). I was looking at the Z68 Gen3 from Asus but it's a bit too expensive. I'm not too sure. What are some suggestions or CPU/Mobo combinations that work well. (I may be going SLI in the future).
 
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I'm likely to be getting a Intel 3570K Ivy Bridge CPU and I'm not planning on overclocking. Do I need an aftermarket cooler (CoolerMaster 212)? I mean as long as I'm not overclocking should I even be concerned?
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One reason to get an aftermarket cooler regardless of if you're overclocking or not is the reduced heat, and reduced noise that will come from it. IIRC, the 212 can take any 120mm fan you throw at it, so you've got the ability to put some quiet, yet high air flow fans onto it. One of my friends has a stock cpu cooler on his Phenom II X4 955BE it is so loud for no apparent reason. So it's definitely worth it to just get a different cooler.
 
Of course a cpu cooler like the one that came with my AMD cpu has a 60mm fan for a high wattage processor will be loud. That's just the nature of a stock cooler which is designed to be 2.5" tall or less these days. The Intel stock coolers aren't that bad at noise since they are roughly 70-75mm fans but almost everyone hate are those plastic pins. Very annoying and and in a tight case it can be hard to tell if they are attached correctly. But of course when you get used to it, the design is not that bad.

A aftermarket cpu cooler will help extend the life of the processor by lowering the temperatures at load and idle. Ensuring that you clean the computer of dust will insure that you are not starving the computer of fresh air. For a cheap air cooler this one seems like it's good for the money and it would seem to have more surface area for cooling. I'm a fan of Sythe products and I've not found one that I hated.
 
Get it. My stock cooler with a 2500K hits up to 89 degrees. I hit about 75 while I game.
 
Plus with a stock cooler is easier to clean, get another fan and use a pull push design.
 
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Plus with a stock cooler is easier to clean, get another fan and use a pull push design.
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I think you mean an aftermarket cooler like the CM 212. But yes, much easier to clean. Plus with the cooler I suggested there is more surface area(compared to the CM 212 where that's a 120mm cooler and he should have room for it since it's a top down design for a 140mm fan) and four copper heatpipes to even out the heat. The brand has done good designs and despite the cheap price like the cooler I linked to, they don't look that cheap and add to the look of the case if your case has a window.
 
Yeah.

Was on my phone outside a computer fair and was typing quickly as it was cold as heck.

But before you get a cooler measure the width of the inside( front the top part of CPU to the edge of where the side will be.

Make sure your case can take the cooler you want to use.

Otherwise you may need to get one of these http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_845&products_id=18666

And since we are car lovers I am surprised you are not going for a Cooler Master V8 or V10

V8
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_845&products_id=7980

V10
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_845&products_id=8849

Thing with these 2 is they are heavy as heck.

Under 2 pounds for the V8(.86KG) and 3(1.2KG) pounds for the V10
 
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I really liked the 212 because it would also contribute to me case's airflow:
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I'm going to do a strict one-way route for my airflow (I'll also tone down the power of the exhaust fans to create positive case pressure to keep dust bunnies out). I don't care much about those other coolers because I think that they might conflict with the airflow. The 212 will help it if anything.

Edit: Is getting that extra CPU cooler 120mm fan actually worth it? :rolleyes: I mean the cooler is by the exhaust fans anyways.
 
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Just if I may pop in a suggestion: If you're strapped for cash (and I mean really strapped that you can't afford a 212), CM's TX3 is a great one. Being 92mm there's no problems for space, and as long as you don't start overclocking you'll be right. Ivy chips run very cool when at stock, since they've got a 77w TDP, but as soon as they see the volts, the temps absolutely 🤬 the bed.

If you're going to be pushing volts with your chip, you're gonna wanna look at getting something like a NH-D14 or similar, big, badass cooler.
 
A LCLC(Low Cost Liquid Cooling) unit like Corsair H60, H80, Antec Kuler H20 are not that expensive and are great if you will be overclocking or want even a more quite PC.
 
Have a corsair H80 water cooler myself. Very quite unit an at an affordable price also. Top temps, idle = 40 degrees c under load = 52 degrees c
 
Mm, although with liquid cooling units, airflow makes not a whole heap of difference. TTL (time to live customs) says in one of his videos (if I can find it, I'll post it) that he had Noctua NF-F12's on his H100 cooler. For a test of 4x 7970's, he put 160CFM Deltas on, to get a bit more airflow over the cards. Apparently the temps dropped by an average of 1 - 2ºC...
 
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Mm, although with liquid cooling units, airflow makes not a whole heap of difference. TTL (time to live customs) says in one of his videos (if I can find it, I'll post it) that he had Noctua NF-F12's on his H100 cooler. For a test of 4x 7970's, he put 160CFM Deltas on, to get a bit more airflow over the cards. Apparently the temps dropped by an average of 1 - 2ºC...
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Also depends on radiator design.

A Stock Corsair fan that is made to be quite over one that is made for good performance.
 
Go for an Ivy Briidge mobo, it gives you the best options for the future. I'd just go with the cheapest ATX Z77 board you can find. They all have multiple PCI-E, SATA III and room for plenty of RAM. Do you think you will need USB3 in the future?
 
But you won't get anywhere near 5Gbps.

Just like you never got near 480Mbps with USB 2.0

Fastest I have gone from my PCs HDD to a USB 3.0 drive was 115MB/s.

This was done by formatting my USB drive with 64kb sector sizes(4kb is default) and I was coping a 4GB movie.
 
Suggestion: Get a Gigabyte or MSI board. Why? Well both boards (most models, but not all) have an mSATA slot. This allows you to connect a micro SATA drive to the board via a tiny slot on the board. Saves space and allows you to use the caching feature that the Z77 chipsets have built in. :)
 

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