modding the enzo is paradox

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First of all I'm not really sure if the title, especially the word paradox, is right because I'm not a native speaker. However I think all of you can at least guess what I mean at the end of this post.

Yesterday I bought the Ferrari Enzo and started to drive it stock. I'm usually modding cars part by part after getting them known and then tuning them in the way I would like them to be.
However when I wanted to mod the enzo I noticed that no turbo or compressor could be built in. My guess is/was that it's already built in to get that power. However after that I saw that you can install a sports and normal air filter and my first thought after seeing that was: wtf, they build in a turbo/compressor but not a normal air filter??? what's wrong with ferrari.

Is there a real explanation for that, so my first thought is wrong or am I right and ferrari is not really clever?
 
You contradicted yourself. First you said no Turbo/Compressor upgrade was present yet an air filter one was. Then you said a Turbo/Compressor upgrade was present and there was no air filter upgrade.

Sorry, that's all I got out of it and now I'm slightly confused.
 
Its an interesting question...I wonder what type of air filters Ferraris come with from the factory?

I can say that the tuning options are strangely limited sometimes. For example, its very common to see tuned Corvette's with turbochargers in the real world, but in the game you cannot install them on any Corvette (afaik).
 
Xouved
You contradicted yourself. First you said no Turbo/Compressor upgrade was present yet an air filter one was. Then you said a Turbo/Compressor upgrade was present and there was no air filter upgrade.

Sorry, that's all I got out of it and now I'm slightly confused.
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Mh sorry for making myself not clear. I can't buy a turbo/compressor in the car parts dealer, however i can buy a airfilter and all the other stuff. So I thought the turbo/compressor is already built in and because of that I can't buy one in the dealer.
 
stadti
Mh sorry for making myself not clear. I can't buy a turbo/compressor in the car parts dealer, however i can buy a airfilter and all the other stuff. So I thought the turbo/compressor is already built in and because of that I can't buy one in the dealer.
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Oh okay.

Well if the Enzo has a turbo already as stock it would be slightly strange but if it's N/A and theres no turbo upgrade option it's not too paradoxical. And yes, I know you can put turbos on them in real life :) , and I would happily do it in GT5 if the option was available but it seems like a lot of N/A cars can't have a turbo added too them.
 
Really? I have about 300 cars in my garage and about 150 are partly or fully modded, but I've never noticed that the turbo and the compressor can't be built in. I always thought that you can build in 'either the one or the other, or sometimes both. I only noticed that case where you can't build in neither of them with racing cars, and I also thought that they already have one.
 
You can't justy whack forced induction on onto any old car! especially such finely tuned NA cars such as the enzo. many cars such as that require a specially made turbo designed to run with the engine at a very specific boost. i guess GT5 is emulating cars that have off the shelf turbos available for them.

i do agree though, you surely cant upgrade the enzo by putting a better air filter on it to help the engine breathe better, same with the exhaust systems and stuff like that on other similar cars!
 
Why buy a car like an Enzo only to change it?

I've got an Enzo and it'll be staying stock. I want to drive an Enzo. I don't want to drive an Enzo that I have added a turbo to, changed the suspension setup and generally mucked about with.

People clamoured to get Ferrari into GT, and now that they're there, they change them so that they're not Ferraris any more.
 
daan
Why buy a car like an Enzo only to change it?

I've got an Enzo and it'll be staying stock. I want to drive an Enzo. I don't want to drive an Enzo that I have added a turbo to, changed the suspension setup and generally mucked about with.

People clamoured to get Ferrari into GT, and now that they're there, they change them so that they're not Ferraris any more.
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I got 2 of each Ferrari. One modded and one stock:tup:. Have to say that driving the stock ones gives me a lot more satisfaction.
 
Yeah, GT has always (I think, but at least since GT3) restricted what kinds of forced induction you can use on cars. A lot of NA cars can't have turbo or superchargers, a lot of turbos can't be swapped to superchargers and vice-versa, and the Enzo is NA in real life so I guess it's just one with the mystery restriction.

You can put a turbo on anything, you just have to have the space (though there's a Youtube video of a turbocharged Subaru Brumby with the turbo actually poking through the bonnet, so...), a lower compression ratio or a block/cylinder head machined from granite and a few other bits. There's a twin turbo Enzo with 1,000+bhp, apparently, if you were to Google it, so I'm not sure why an Enzo can't be turbocharged.

Disclaimer: I'd never dream of modding an Enzo further than putting the wing on it (because it looks a little bit F40/FXX) and stickier tyres. It's more than fast enough as it is. The 458 Italia, however... Mine is only slightly less powerful and slightly heavier than my Enzo at the moment.
 
A paradox is a phrase/sentence which is contradictory to itself. While making sense it also makes a point against the sense that it implies.
Example: Every thing I say is a lie.
If this statement is true then you cannot believe the statement itself because the statement goes against exactly what it is meaning.
If every thing I say is a lie than how can you believe me telling you that. If I am lying about lying than I may not be lying but from the original comment you would assume I am.
Sorry if that's a bit confusing, I just confused myself so much typing it I'm not sure myself if it actually makes sense!
 
daan
Why buy a car like an Enzo only to change it?

I've got an Enzo and it'll be staying stock. I want to drive an Enzo. I don't want to drive an Enzo that I have added a turbo to, changed the suspension setup and generally mucked about with.

People clamoured to get Ferrari into GT, and now that they're there, they change them so that they're not Ferraris any more.
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Now we need to get Gemballas in, lol.
 
THE ONLY REASON I can see them not having a turbo available is because the enzo is N/A stock and it IS possible to get a better air filter for it (aftermarket) but they want to keep it N/A in game just like the Cerbera Speed 6, Gallardo 560-4, and many more.

Took Audi out because it isnt N/A but still cant upgrade Turbo.
 
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daan
Why buy a car like an Enzo only to change it?

I've got an Enzo and it'll be staying stock. I want to drive an Enzo. I don't want to drive an Enzo that I have added a turbo to, changed the suspension setup and generally mucked about with.

People clamoured to get Ferrari into GT, and now that they're there, they change them so that they're not Ferraris any more.
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QFT. My enzo is completely stock, my 599 only has a sport cat, air flter, and suspension. My 512 has mostly handling mods, with a few performance mods. I also have the mclaren mp4 which is mostly stock.

Modding the crap out of a super car just makes it a completely different car and turns it into any old highly modified car in gran turismo.
 

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