Momo force supported?

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Is there any news on whether the Logitech Momo Force (the red one) will be supported in the final version of GT4 or not? I know it doesn't work in GT4:P.
I've used the search but couldn't find the answer.
 
XLR8
Is there any news on whether the Logitech Momo Force (the red one) will be supported in the final version of GT4 or not? I know it doesn't work in GT4:P.
I've used the search but couldn't find the answer.
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I would recommend you use the Driving Force Pro steering wheel for GT4. It is specially made for GT4 and has 900 degrees of turning like a wheel car. I hear it's the best wheel out there ( i plan to get this wheel soon) so i would go for that.

As for the logitech momo force don't know.

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I already have the Momo Force and it's great (in terms of quality better than the DFP) so I'm not gonna buy another wheel. I use it for PC racesims, if the Momo Force is supported by GT4 I might consider buying a PS2 just for this game.
If it's not supported in GT4.. well, too bad for Sony :rolleyes:
 
Demos for GT4 support Wingman for PC, I'm sure that MOMO must be OK too 👍

Another one is the lost of 900º :grumpy:
 
Sadly, the MOMO will not be supported in GT4.

Technically, it was not supported in GT3 either, it just happened to work...
 
Giancarlo
What's so special about the Logitech wheel that makes it $150?
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I haven't got one so I read the discussions on this forum to find out - you should try to do that as well because there's some useful information in it.

But basically it has 900 degrees of turning (like a wheel wheel) and has realistic force feedback, turns realistically, feels good... Im sure you get the picture. But for further more conclusive info go to the link below:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44139

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Barbol
Well, if MOMO is not supported in GT3, I don't know of that we are speaking :dunce:
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I wrote technically it wasn't supported...the buttons on the MOMO were not easy to remap (they're not labeled on the wheel) and the MOMO would not save a calibration like the officially supported Drive Force (blue) Logitech wheel. It actually did (does) work in GT3, it's just not officially supported.
 
XLR8
I already have the Momo Force and it's great (in terms of quality better than the DFP) so I'm not gonna buy another wheel. I use it for PC racesims, if the Momo Force is supported by GT4 I might consider buying a PS2 just for this game.
If it's not supported in GT4.. well, too bad for Sony :rolleyes:
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you got the red one? the black "momo racing" is lower quality than the DFP, the red one has leather trim wheel and better pedals.. but other than that, the DFP outclasses it, (i had a red momo force, "gave" it to my dad and he got me a DFP in exchange).
the red momo looks very cool... but so does the DFP, both have a very gripy steering wheel, but the DFP is not leather (it still feels great) but the wheel itself is much better than the red momo force, cosmetics aside... but the pedals suck goats, there are ways to mod the red momo pedals to get them working with the DFP, or you could do what i did and sell your kidney to get yourself some pedals that are worthy to the wheel (pedals cost me 400+ bucks, high end ECCI brand pedals).

so logitech is pretty much just selling you the wheel when you buy a DFP, the pedals are umm.. disposable.
 
oh yeah, i forgot to answer your question, the red momo works on GT3, but does NOT work at all in GT4 (nothing, nada, zip). i tried it in prologue, and nothing, so it's safe to assume this will be the case for the final game. btw, the Driving force pro also works on the PC, and better yet... there are ways to get the full 900 degrees working, it's awsome in richard burns rally (it's best at around 525 degrees on that game) and it works great in live for speed. real racing cars or games with racing cars only (GPL, GTR, etc) have no use for the extra rotation of course.
 
speaking of the pedals i own the DFP. it is really a great wheel. i usually won't "shell" out 150 for something. last thing i got for 150 was those bose headphones and they were worth it too <8- ) anyways back to the wheel. someone said you can get other pedals? where and is there a set with a clutch? i can't stand having a hand operated clutch in lfs. i use a paddle for the clutch :crazy:
 
I agree that the Momo Force pedals are not very good, that's the reason I bought Act-Labs pedals with longer travel and a clutch pedal. I also have a GPL shifter.
But even if the Momo Force was supported by GT4 I'd still have to use the crappy Momo Force pedals without clutch and shifter :sick:

So this means I won't be buying a PS2 with GT4. Too bad, I like the number of cars and tracks (Nordschleife) in it but I think the game is not enough a simulation for me anyway. I'll stick with GPL, GTR, LFS etc..
 
blargonator
someone said you can get other pedals? where?
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here
and
here

However both sets do not come cheap...However I can assure you, both set of pedals will last 10x longer then any thing anyone can buy off a shelf in any game/hobby/electronics store today!

blargonator
and is there a set with a clutch?
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If you want a clutch for GT4, then you'll be waiting a very long time, as right now, there is no game (at least that I know of) on any console, that supports the use of a clutch.
(Hey, if there's one out there that someone knows about, let me know!)

However, if you want a clutch for PC racing, check out the first link above and then click on this link when you're done!

blargonator
I use a paddle for the clutch :crazy:
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Yeah, you are pretty crazy! (J/K) :-)

EDIT: Oh, and in case anyone needs to know..YES both sets of pedals are going to work with GT4 on your PS2! Matter of fact, Frex has designed their products just for GT4... :D
 
SimRaceDriver
here
and
here

However both sets do not come cheap...However I can assure you, both set of pedals will last 10x longer then any thing anyone can buy off a shelf in any game/hobby/electronics store today!



If you want a clutch for GT4, then you'll be waiting a very long time, as right now, there is no game (at least that I know of) on any console, that supports the use of a clutch.
(Hey, if there's one out there that someone knows about, let me know!)

However, if you want a clutch for PC racing, check out the first link above and then click on this link when you're done!


Yeah, you are pretty crazy! (J/K) :-)

EDIT: Oh, and in case anyone needs to know..YES both sets of pedals are going to work with GT4 on your PS2! Matter of fact, Frex has designed their products just for GT4... :D
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as a matter of fact, you can use any sets of pedals with the momo racing of DFP. Just use the cable from your DFP, chance the potentiometers (10 K logarithmic), build these pots and cable in any sets of pedals and connect them with (the original cable with the new potentiometers) your DFP or momo racing. You can even get real pedals from a car and connect them to the potentiometers (and cable).

These are also nice:http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/
http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Pro/

I can get the pro pedals (without electronics and pot meters) for $30.

The Frex pedals and the trackstar 6000 are 👍 👍 👍 .
 
cestmoi
as a matter of fact, you can use any sets of pedals with the momo racing of DFP. Just use the cable from your DFP, chance the potentiometers (10 K logarithmic), build these pots and cable in any sets of pedals and connect them with (the original cable with the new potentiometers) your DFP or momo racing. You can even get real pedals from a car and connect them to the potentiometers (and cable).

These are also nice:http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/
http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Pro/

I can get the pro pedals (without electronics and pot meters) for $30.

The Frex pedals and the trackstar 6000 are 👍 👍 👍 .
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Actually, in order to use those BRD pedals, which by the way I have, along with a DFP, you would need a converter that is adaptable to the PS2.

See, their first set of pedals, (2nd link above) refered to as their Pro pedals actually required one of these to work on the PS2.

Now, once they came out with their new pedal set (Speed7's - 1st link above) I called BRD directly (last month) & asked if they were going to extend this playability over to their new pedals and I was told that they are working on a new converter but it's probably not going to be available until sometime in early 2005...The reason for the delay was that they were working on finalizing this!

However, now that BRD has officially announced a release date for it, I'm hoping that converter comes out sooner & not later because my poor pedals are still sitting in their box, waiting to be used....and I swear, if this converter doesn't come out before GT4 does, I'll sell those pedals over on eBay & go buy a set of Frex pedals, that way there I won't have to worry about changing pedals and all that other BS if I want to play the PS2 or use my PC for racing.

Now, as for the ECCI pedals and ease of use, they are a direct plug-n-play replacement for the current DFP pedals...so the only work needed is to unplug the DFP pedals & plug in the ECCI ones..and then go race!
 
Yes, I don't like it either that you can't use the BRD (speed7) pedals with PS2.
I also hope that the new interfacebox (converter) will be available early next year. I agree, I have to switch pedals all the time myself.
When I use my PC, I use the speed7 pedals from BRD (GTR and RBR).
When I use the PS2 I have to switch pedals. I don't like it either.

Maybe the FREX pedals aren't such a bad substitute.
 
Perhaps a lot to ask, but can someone please confirm if the Momo Force works in GT4.
(Hope not, since I sold mine since it didn't work in GT4P....)
 
If it does, it will be a miracle....

That wheel was never intended to work on the PS2 as it was only marketed for PC users...only through chance were people able to get it to work on their PS2's...

Yet, even then I heard that not everyone could get it to work on their respective consoles. Then, to make matters worse, even when it was working, for instance with GT3, that did not indicate a full compatibility across the board in regards to other racing titles being able to recognize it as a supported in-game controller!

Now, add insult to injury, (as my gran-pappy always told me...) Logitech support never claimed and/or made any indications that it was meant for use on the PS2 and therefore they would not support technical issues from those callers trying to get the wheel to work with a particular game and the wheel not being recognized for one reason or another...

Of course, I could be wrong here....as all this is based on just heresay & speculation that I've picked up over the years....none of it comes from first hand experience! LOL!
 
Polyphony Digital made a conscious decision not to support the MOMO Force in GT4. Fortunately, the MOMO Force will work with modern PS2 games using the standard Logitech drivers.

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So, no Momo Force for GT4?
That way i'm not going to pay 150€ for a PS2 plus 65€ for the GT4 and then another 150€ for a DFP (the Momo Force is so much better (it's in leather and steel, while DFP is crappy plastic). And to those that say the Momo Force pedals are cr*p, well, at least the pots don't break after 6 months of usage (as those found on the Momo Racing and DFP))...
 
I will not sell my MOMO Force! And I am not fully sure GT4 will not support it! GT4 can be tiring with dfp, all modern racing games work perfect with MOMO Force(all tha I've tried like WRC4 and NFSU2 etc)! Why GT4 should not?
 
ArcticBlow
I will not sell my MOMO Force! And I am not fully sure GT4 will not support it! GT4 can be tiring with dfp, all modern racing games work perfect with MOMO Force(all tha I've tried like WRC4 and NFSU2 etc)! Why GT4 should not?
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Well if GT4 comes out you can try it for yourself. If it doesn't work, you always decide what to do.
 
Gil Abobeleira
So, no Momo Force for GT4?
That way i'm not going to pay 150€ for a PS2 plus 65€ for the GT4 and then another 150€ for a DFP (the Momo Force is so much better (it's in leather and steel, while DFP is crappy plastic). And to those that say the Momo Force pedals are cr*p, well, at least the pots don't break after 6 months of usage (as those found on the Momo Racing and DFP))...
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Well said, same goes for me. I'm not selling my good old Momo Force for a wheel that doesn't have the same quality and I really don't care about the 900 degrees function, race cars don't use it anyway.

I'm still waiting for a final confirmation here from somebody who owns GT4+Momo Force though.
 
Sorry to kick this thread again, but isn't there still anyone who can tell if the Momo Force will work in GT4? Over 1 million copies sold in 2 days, so there's gotta be someone between them with a Momo Force :dopey:
 
FYI....You can’t compare a PC wheel (MOMO Force), which, by mere chance alone, works on the PS2, with another wheel (DFP), which was built for the PS2 (Console) & GT4 specifically, but also, happens to also work on the PC!

They are two different wheels altogether!
It's like comparing Apples against Oranges!
 

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