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[The Vanishing Boy]

^ Oh, I know that too. Maybe I mis-quote someone.

 

[JCE]

Are you implying that the Titan is with the same league as the 'cream-puff' Tundra?

Here are the full size medium duty pickup trucks sold in America:

Chevrolet/GMC 1500
Dodge Ram 1500
Ford F150
Nissan Titan
Toyota Tundra
Honda Ridgeline (HAHAHAHAHA! yea right)

So yes, I am putting the "cream puff" Tundra and the "manly" Titan in the same league because they are along with the other American trucks and are in direct competition.

And I'm not implying with the same full-size class. I'm using the F-Super Duty not F-150.

Then you would be in error to do so. The Super Duty and Heavy Duty trucks from the "big three" Amercan manufacturers aren't in the same class as the Tundra or Titan. The Tundra and Titan are medium duty pickup trucks--the others are Heavy or Super Duty trucks.

And also based on the website that you provided; it shows that on the 15 AOL users rates the Tundra 5 out of 5 stars while the F-150 has the same rating rated by 2 users.

That's fine that people on that one website prefer the Tundra--I hope they are happy with their choice. I think the sales numbers speak for themselves if you are going to bring "ratings" into the equasion.

Let me be clear on one thing, I would buy a Tundra over the Dodge and GM product. And it isn't because of its practicality and usefulness as a pickup truck. Its solely because I hate Dodge and I find the GM trucks have a horrid interior.

^ Based on my experience between the two trucks; my experience with the F-150 feels like it was anemic or something. The last-gen Silverado felt more meater of carrying it own weight around. The only edge that the F-150 has are, a beefy closed-box frame and its variety of cab-bed styles.

You're most certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I, however, won't agree with you here. The reason is, by "anemic" you are probably referring (and please correct me if I am assuming wrong) to its acceleration unloaded. Fact is, the Ford is geared towards hauling and towing and not accleration. The F150 does more work with less power versus the others. The Ford should actually be given an award for doing so much with so little in comparison to the others.

While the Tundra may spit out some good accleration numbers unloaded (and it does) that isn't the point of a truck. The only trucks on the market where acceleration are important are as follows...

Silverado SS
F150 Saleen/Roush
Dodge SRT-10

And that's the short list. If you like we can include the Titan and Tundra since they are pretty decent in acceleration--but will get walked by those three.

^ Did I just say, JDM-brand, not made in JDM-land?

If you added "-brand" then I didn't see it or was not paying attention. Either way I am not biased towards JDM companies--infact you will consistantly see me choose anything European, Australian, or Japanese (and even Korean) over anything American.

^ I like the Titan as of late thou.

The new(er) 2008.5 model is actually quite good. My only complaints are lack of options both inside and out, lack of a diesel, and lack of engine choices. Lack of a V6 Nissan? Bad move, the VQ37 would work VERY well in that truck if geared towards torque instead of bhp.

Independent? Toyota hired a random film company, stunt men, construction company & let them have a fully-optioned Tundra straight off a showroom.

The tests are real. Get over it, please.

I didn't bother to read the article(s) regarding the Toyota commercial junk. Even if they are real they look faked.

I STILL MAINTAIN someone needs to do those tests with all of its (the Tundra) competition in order for the real facts to become clear. Fact is, I won't get over it because Toyota has done a FANTASTAIC job of MARKETING. The others on the overall picture do a better job as a truck in terms of what a truck was designed for--hauling and towing.

What I love is Ford's response with its commercials that purposely take pot-shots at Toyota with a hint of sarcasm.

Now that all of my points have been countered and I countered the counters this particular issue should be concluded. So, now we can move on to why MT "settled" on the Tundra instead of giving the award to someone or something else. How can the most recalled truck irregardless of the performance arguements get the "truck of the year"? It boggles the mind.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> ...

Here are the full size medium duty pickup trucks sold in America:

Chevrolet/GMC 1500
Dodge Ram 1500
Ford F150
Nissan Titan
Toyota Tundra
Honda Ridgeline (HAHAHAHAHA! yea right)

So yes, I am putting the "cream puff" Tundra and the "manly" Titan in the same league because they are along with the other American trucks and are in direct competition.

^ I already know about that, but still; I'm not considering the Tundra as a 'cream-puff', the Ridgeline is (by comparison).

Then you would be in error to do so. The Super Duty and Heavy Duty trucks from the "big three" Amercan manufacturers aren't in the same class as the Tundra or Titan. The Tundra and Titan are medium duty pickup trucks--the others are Heavy or Super Duty trucks.

^ Who says that I'm comparing two different duty classes?

That's fine that people on that one website prefer the Tundra--I hope they are happy with their choice. I think the sales numbers speak for themselves if you are going to bring "ratings" into the equasion.

^ While the 'Big 3' already have reps for more than 50+ years while the other two just barely scratched 10 years. But for 'just' 10 years, these two (or three) aren't doing that bad as well.

Let me be clear on one thing, I would buy a Tundra over the Dodge and GM product. And it isn't because of its practicality and usefulness as a pickup truck. Its solely because I hate Dodge and I find the GM trucks have a horrid interior.

^ Same here, I'd take a SR5 Double Cab 6-seater long-bed 4x4. But on the HD-class, I'd pick the Sierra HD SLT, because its powered by Isuzu-engineered Duramax diesel.

You're most certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I, however, won't agree with you here. The reason is, by "anemic" you are probably referring (and please correct me if I am assuming wrong) to its acceleration unloaded. Fact is, the Ford is geared towards hauling and towing and not accleration. The F150 does more work with less power versus the others. The Ford should actually be given an award for doing so much with so little in comparison to the others.

^ I am not just talking about acceleration only (I'm not a fan for Drag races). But I'm implying on overall prowess, useability, and responsiveness.

While the Tundra may spit out some good accleration numbers unloaded (and it does) that isn't the point of a truck. The only trucks on the market where acceleration are important are as follows...

Silverado SS
F150 Saleen/Roush
Dodge SRT-10

And that's the short list. If you like we can include the Titan and Tundra since they are pretty decent in acceleration--but will get walked by those three.

^ Um, neither the Tundra nor the Titan are in the 'performance' class of full-size trucks. In fact it was Dodge's fault of bragging the HEMI as the 'power' bully in the non-performance group.

If you added "-brand" then I didn't see it or was not paying attention. Either way I am not biased towards JDM companies--infact you will consistantly see me choose anything European, Australian, or Japanese (and even Korean) over anything American.

^ I stated it few posts ago.

-> Infact 70% of the time, I'd pick a Korean over anything American too.

The new(er) 2008.5 model is actually quite good. My only complaints are lack of options both inside and out, lack of a diesel, and lack of engine choices. Lack of a V6 Nissan? Bad move, the VQ37 would work VERY well in that truck if geared towards torque instead of bhp.

^ I would also said the same thing too.

 

[Tornado]

But for 'just' 10 years, these two (or three) aren't doing that bad as well.

One of them did it better last time. That is the problem.

 

[1X83Z]

-> True I'm not a MT fan, but these magazine test their cars extensively on and off road. And none of us here in GTP can have that privilage (I wish me, YSS, and M5P to make our own assesments just like Top Gear).

Let's do it!

 

[BlackZ28]

Ive had hands on experience with this truck vs the silverado. it is no better.