I finally played Forza 4 for the first time yesterday. I am not sure how much I got completed. It seems that while I was doing the World Tour I completed 7 parts of the Clubman (Cup?). I tried to use my first car (Citroen C1) for as many races as I could but later I stared using the Lotus Elan. The first thing I noticed was that it was really easy to toss that C1 around, and when using the controller and "normal" steering setting I could easily counter steer when the back end started to step out. This made it really fun, but it didn't punish me for careless and overly aggressive driving. I am hoping that when the racing gets tougher I will have to use a smoother, cleaner approach to win races. Another thing that really stood out was how poorly the AI would sometimes drive, and how many times it seem they would deliberately PIT you. At Laguna Seca I would not attempt to pass anyone near the Corkscrew because any car that was behind me would spin me off the track. I liked that on "limited" (I think, may have been "light") damage, you would get charged for the amount of damage done. I finished one race with 1 Cr of damage... I guess that one could be "buffed out". I am not going to do any GT5 vs FM4 comparisons except for 1 thing. Turn 10 got the color of the grass right at Laguna Seca. I have never seen green grass there, its always brown.