My Logitech wheel experience so far

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Well, in curiosity today, I bought a wheel. I did buy the Driving Force PS2 unit, just wondering if they had fixed the shifting bug yet. They haven't. It should be fixable with firmware, because it's not a physical thing. I deliberately calibrated it at 70% turning lock, and it still wouldn't downshift while turning tightly under some circumstances. Not enough to render it useless; just annoying.

FWIW the red Logitech Wingman was exactly the same price, which is what prompted me to get the DF wheel anyway.

I was expecting the shifting problem. I was expecting to be several seconds slower. However, I wasn't expecting to be so under-whelmed by driving with the wheel.

Maybe part of the problem was that I couldn't get comfortable with the wheel set up. I have a great chair in my living room that offers perfect driving position for the DS2, but it was difficult to make it work for the wheel. The pedals walk around, even when used gently; though they operate pretty well. It's also VERY noisy, which is bad because I usually play after the rest of the household is in bed.

Yeah, driving with the wheel is more realistic. I guess. I was expecting more subtlety and more consistency. For instance, on the final chicane of Trial Mountain, at track out on the left side of the front straight, under the overpass, there is apparently a large curb. It's not really visible, and I never even noticed hitting it using the DS2. With the wheel, it yanked in my hands quite aggressively, making it very difficult to maintain smooth momentum across the finish line. Yet pingponging through the rock-walled gorge between the tunnels yielded hardly a nudge from the wheel. I also expected steering effort to disappear at the first tunnel exit, where the big crown in the track unloads the suspension before that next right. Nope - just like driving across a parking lot. People talk about this wheel being subtle enough to indicate tuning changes? Maybe after you've been using it for months.

But is it more fun? I'm not sure. It's definitely more work. It's probably more realistic. I can forgive its flaws, I can figure out how to get comfortable, and I can get over being slower - IF the game is more fun using the wheel. Unfortunately, after more than hour of seat time using my favorite cars on my favorite tracks, the jury is still out on that question.
 
I can't use a wheel efficiently unless it's fixed to a Recardo Stylie Arcade Machine :spin: Anyone else find this?..

Will they be releasing a proper :gt: Cockpit Seat thing designed to Hold the Logitech? 💡
 
Originally posted by Sk8rKiD
Why buy it if you know it doesnt work...
Because I figured that since it's aknown problem, that they might have corrected it.

I also said that I wasn't bothered by it.
 
I have the GT3 Logitech wheel...even though it make the game more real....i like the DS2 more....but when i race a friend i use the wheel just to see whole can win.
 
Originally posted by alexy2k
I can't use a wheel efficiently unless it's fixed to a Recardo Stylie Arcade Machine :spin: Anyone else find this?..

Will they be releasing a proper :gt: Cockpit Seat thing designed to Hold the Logitech? 💡

Hells yes, I tred GT3 with the whell in a racing style seat thing. It was awwwwesome, so awesome I was in HMV for an hour playing gt3 :D . then i used the wheel at a mates house and it was no way as fun.

Mind you I swear there are loads of those arcade seat things if you look around so im sure logitech dont need to make one. Although it would be nice to hve an official GT3 one I suppose. I think il stick to the pad for the moment and leave the wheel for real life driving, unless they make a Ds2 adaptor for my car :rolleyes:
 
FWIW the red Logitech Wingman was exactly the same price, which is what prompted me to get the DF wheel anyway.

That´s strange, isn´t it ?
I mean, the Wingman should be a lot cheaper...

Anyway, I also heard that the vibrating in the Driving Force was less powerfull than the GT Force.

Has anyone ever tried them both and can be able to confirm this?
 
i also bought the wheel about a week ago and must agree with a lot of what Neon Duke says
im still experiencing some dificulties but i havent noticed any of the bugs playing gtc
also i thing we must conced that with a pad we can all be Shummacher but behind a «real» wheel things are a little diferent!!! :(
i still havent found a confortable way of using the wheel: holding it in your legs makes the use of the pedals a little akward-with that device i can only be efective with low hp ff cars but the few times ive fixed it to a table (too low, terrible for my back) ive seen my rally driving improve a LOT!
But what i really enjoy are the pedals! theres nothing quiet like stepping on the gas after a tight turn and seeing your car acelerate!
all in all if youve already beat the game i think a wheel is the next challenge-just dont expect to go straight and win a race in the F1 championship! :)
 
anyway Neon Duke hope u keep us updated on your wheel experience
have u noticed if the break bug is only a graphics (?) problem during replay or does the car really break less?
fortunately its not there in gtc!
 
Someone has said that the braking force is only 75% of what you get with a DS2, but I can't confirm that from my short experience.

However, the shifting is a problem, definitely. In the last turn at Laguna, and in the sharp hairpin behind the Coliseum in Rome, the car would not downshift until I unwound the wheel. Not good.

I'm going to spend another couple hours using it. If I start to enjoy it more, I'll probably return the Driving Force wheel and hit eBay for a blue GT Force version. Otherwise, I'm just going to return it and stick with the DS2.
 
im sort of a one step at a time guy :) so im still using auto with the wheel (i confess i only recently began experimenting with manual with the ds2 in spite of driving a car with manual gear-im european! :D )
but i tried once or twice the manual with the df wheel and found it was easier to shift with L2 / R2 - have you rtied that?or its also possible to use L3 / R3
the worst part is that when u disconect the pedals your stuck with the pads for gas and breaks even after changing the config!
 
Originally posted by RUI
the worst part is that when u disconect the pedals your stuck with the pads for gas and breaks even after changing the config!
Yikes! I don't quite understand what your saying. If you disconnect the pedals, and reconnect them, you can't use them?

I disconnected my whole setup and went back to DS2 analog sticks with no problem.
 
sorry i wasnt clear Duke :)
what i meant was that the gear side pads are supposed to work as acelerator and break when u disconect the pedals thus i thought that changing the original config i'd be able to acelarate and break with L2 / R2 - but its aparently not possible
the pedals work ok when reconected!
my original point was: using the pedals and changing the config of the gears to either L2/R2 or L3/R3 may solve the problems of shifting while turning
 
ok :)
after a few hours practice i find the wheel still difficult and a bit unreliable and maybe not all that «realistic» - but sooooooo much more fun! :lol:
 
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