My New Concept

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Here's a concept that I made a few days ago. It can be used on cars with an FF-drivetrain to remove some excess understeer. Tell me whether it would work or not. I highly doubt it.

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Okay, i'm sure this idea has never been used before. It works similar to an aeroplane wing. The airfoil shape creates less pressure on the top of the airfoil than the bottom, exactly like an aeroplane wing. This would make the front lighter and have less grip than the rear tyres, which in turn, reduces excess oversteer.

Anyway, what do you guys think?
 
Seems like you would have trouble seeing past it or at the front of your hood when parking.

Manufactures try to eliminate lift from the front bumper not give it more and giving the front tyres less grip would increase understeer.

At low speeds when the understeer is greatest the wing wouldn't produce much lift anyway if the theory worked.

BTW I may have mis-interpreted some of what you said, not sure.
 
The reason the idea has never been used is because you wouldn't be able to see anything past the front wing.

Most modern cars have front bumpers designed to reduce lift already... and if you want even more downforce, you can buy a splitter, which is a wing that goes under the front bumper.
 
Thanks everyone for your replies. In response to the replies, I have changed the basic design of my concept...

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Now, the airfoil has been turned upside down and placed on top of the car, leaning towards the front. Visibility would be restored and understeer would be improved at high speeds.

In addition, it would be nice if the driver could also adjust the location of the upside-down airfoil. Therefore, one could also change the grip settings of either the front or back of the car in any way they want.

Now, would this work?
 
According to your picture, the wing would be pressing down on the front and rear wheels equally, adding a bit of downforce, but not as much as if it were on the rear of the car, because on most car designs, a functional rear wing feeds from the air deflected off of the body of the car.

Also, as niky said, there are already bumpers and splitters that employ aerodynamics in the front area of the car.
 
Yeah, the car that I drew doesn't quite display the concept well enough. Anyway, I didn't know that they already had installable airfoils on cars. I guess I was a bit too late.

By the way, thanks everyone for the feedback. I greatly appreciated it.
 
amp88
40 years too late. It's too impractical to be of use on a road car anyway.

I have to agree. No offense, but no matter where you put your "invention" on the car, its already been put there before a long time ago by someone else. Keep trying though, maybe with new ideas and designs, who knows, ya might come up with something new. :indiff:
 
Wolfe2x7
According to your picture, the wing would be pressing down on the front and rear wheels equally, adding a bit of downforce, but not as much as if it were on the rear of the car, because on most car designs, a functional rear wing feeds from the air deflected off of the body of the car.

Also, as niky said, there are already bumpers and splitters that employ aerodynamics in the front area of the car.

additionally, you increase drag, reducing certain aspects of performance, and look like a tool in your bewinged monster.

there are FF cars that handle well;lotus elan, renault clio, citroen saxo etc. just that the packaging and or costs dont make it worthwhile in most cases. and understeer is seen as favorable since its easier to control for the unwashed masses than oversteer.
 
:lol: I reember seeing a whit MR2 with a wing stuck on the bonnet, it looked stupid. Also having the win on the roof will create downforce on the center of the car resulting in a more even spread of extra downforce on the front and rear wheel's, it's not as effective as the wong being either over the front wheels or over the rear wheels. Having it over the front whees as has been said will cause problems for the driver, it'd block his view. Having it over the rear and it's no different to a wing on a Toyota Supra or Subaru Impreza. And as has been said, you can craft a front bumper to create the donwforce you need and if you need more you can add a splitter. If you came up with that idea by yourself then good thinking, not too practical but at least you've got the creative imagination.
 
Actually come to think of it after looking at your first drawing I'm pretty sure that wing would cause lift since it looks like an airplane wing.
 
Condraz23
Here's a concept that I made a few days ago. It can be used on cars with an FF-drivetrain to remove some excess understeer. Tell me whether it would work or not. I highly doubt it.
^This directly contradicts this:
Condraz23
This would make the front lighter and have less grip than the rear tyres, which in turn, reduces excess oversteer.
Are you reducing understeer or oversteer?

Creating lift on the front of the car is a really bad idea.
 
He knows, he changed the wing round so it created more pressure ontop of the wing in post 4.
 
Tell me that's a photoshop :eek:.

That's just wrong.
 
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