My pitstop seem to take too long

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Okay so in the daily races where fuel consumption is active, I always seem to lose time during pitstops. Even when I pit in the same lap as the guys around me, I'll be 3-4 seconds behind after the stop.

I noticed that before the tyre changes start, there are a few seconds where my pit crew does nothing? Is that normal? Is there a way to prevent that?
Why else could I be losing time?
 
Arctic_
Okay so in the daily races where fuel consumption is active, I always seem to lose time during pitstops. Even when I pit in the same lap as the guys around me, I'll be 3-4 seconds behind after the stop.

I noticed that before the tyre changes start, there are a few seconds where my pit crew does nothing? Is that normal? Is there a way to prevent that?
Why else could I be losing time?
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You don't have to change tires.
If you change tires, it adds a few seconds to your pit time.
Other than that - pit times are random(ish), sometimes you pit faster, sometimes you pit slower.
 
Make sure that you work out in your head how much fuel you need to refill, and stop refueling accordingly during the refueling process.
 
Sean Renon
You don't have to change tires.
If you change tires, it adds a few seconds to your pit time.
Other than that - pit times are random(ish), sometimes you pit faster, sometimes you pit slower.
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But everyone changes tyres in todays race because the wear is extremely high. And since it happens everytime it can't be random.
 
Jamie Bbbbb
Make sure that you work out in your head how much fuel you need to refill, and stop refueling accordingly during the refueling process.
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yeah I do that. When I have e.g. 5 laps remaining I always go for 4.7 or 4.8 so thats the absolute minimum.
 
Arctic_
yeah I do that. When I have e.g. 5 laps remaining I always go for 4.7 or 4.8 so thats the absolute minimum.
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OK well other than that I don't know what the issue could be. But using the % is a bit more accurate. So if you have 20% after 5 laps then you only need to refuel up to 80% (add a couple extra % to be safe). :)
 
The pit crew is standing there because its refueling. You can stop refueling sooner to make your pit times sooner but you have less fuel.
 
Most of the time when I see the crew waiting they are in the pit box waiting for the car to arrive. Some pit lane lengths are pretty long.
 
People most likely save more fuel than you and have to refuel less time in pits. I never drive on 1 fuel all the time, in corners I go to lean 3 or 4 and on straights back to 1 or 2. You can save lots of fuel like this and your pit stops will be much shorter.
 
Do you select your tires while the car is approaching your pit box? What I mean is that it took me a few times to realize the game was waiting for me to press "X" to confirm I wanted the same tire compound while it auto drove my car to the box. By doing that, there was no time where the crew was stationary while my car was jacked up in the pit box.
 
Do you enter the pit lane at full speed? My first time I thought for some reason I had to cruise down the pits but I have found that as long as there isn't a corner you can go into pit lane at full speed.
 
CastrolNSXJGTCJ
Do you select your tires while the car is approaching your pit box? What I mean is that it took me a few times to realize the game was waiting for me to press "X" to confirm I wanted the same tire compound while it auto drove my car to the box. By doing that, there was no time where the crew was stationary while my car was jacked up in the pit box.
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gmaki
Do you enter the pit lane at full speed? My first time I thought for some reason I had to cruise down the pits but I have found that as long as there isn't a corner you can go into pit lane at full speed.
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Yes I do both of these things.
 
Must be differences in refueling.
I had the same problem today. I lost 5sec to a Megane and 2sec to the same car (M4) on the 8 Lap LagoMaggiore.
Watching the replays, I figured things out, though:
Indeed the Megane did not refuel at all! While my fueling took about 5sec.
The M4 that was chasing me refueled much less than I did. Approx. from 42 to 52 vs. 42 to 59.
I was exactly on 0.1 laps left at the end, so optimal.
The other guy must have used his intelligence and driven at less than full power during the 4 laps he was behind me.
 
Do you guys ever notice when the AI comes out of pit... They are at like full speed coming out? I swear, as they come out, while I'm passing the pits, Its like they are at top speed shooting out of there.
 
First time I've seen this thread.

Regarding most of the responses, note that the OP says "I noticed that before the tyre changes start, there are a few seconds where my pit crew does nothing?"

Refuelling comes after tyre changes.

I don't have an answer.
Pitlane speed is pitlane speed.
I understand/assume that the delay in seeing your car reach the pit-box is inline with your pit position and pitlane travel distance, so everyone is slightly different.
It may be part of this process, just the graphics falling inline with the time required.
It seems unlikely every time this happened there was an impending penalty.
So while it does sound unusual, I'm less inclined to think something sinister is happening.


@nuu1212
No need to run "less than full power".
Short shifting is your friend. 👍
 
zzz_pt
Nothing wrong with this IMO.

My take on the issue:

The higher you start on the grid, the longer your crew will wait (provided you choose the tires immediately after entering the pit lane). This happens because the game has to account for the distance the car needs to cover from the start of the pit lane until the pit box. The higher you start on the grid, the longer the distance will be, because usually the driver in pole position has the first pit garage.

Since the game doesn't show the animation of the car driving through the whole pit lane until it reaches the garage, that time needs to be added somewhere. And I guess the waiting of the pit crew reflects just that.

Also, it might be important to add that this makes sense IMO. If we saw the animation of the car entering the pit lane, the driver who started last in the grid would have way less time to choose/select his tire option. With the system we have, all the drivers have the same time, I guess, to make their choices. Then, the game makes the calculations automatically.

Since you started 3rd and you mashed the buttons to select your tires as soon as you entered the pit lane, the game made the time adjustments when the car reached the garage. You would have to wait that time anyway, there or somewhere else, with another screen.
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Tristan Jones
To test this would we see if there is a shorter time to end of pits after pitstop for higher grid players?
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I don't think there is any question the delay between seeing your car vanish at the start of pitlane to when it reappears at your pitbox is relative to the theoretical time it takes to get to your respective pitbox.
And of course you get to see your car drive down pitlane after being serviced, with the time spent travelling relative to your pitbox position.

My only question was the delay before the pit crew began work.
And my assumption is that it is still a function of the time it takes to get to your pit box, just a graphics display issue.
 
I have seen this too

Arrive in pit box. Nothing happens for 2-3 seconds then tyres get changed and refuelling starts.

Gone in with more fuel than a car I’m battling so my refuelling is quicker and come out behind the battling car. How do I lose over 1 second to the car when my pit should be quicker as my refuelling takes less time and we both change tyres?
 
Jamie Bbbbb
Make sure that you work out in your head how much fuel you need to refill, and stop refueling accordingly during the refueling process.
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Isn't that what the wee diamond is for above the fuel gauge when you pit?

Note: it's always there in custom raced, not sure about sport mode!
 
nissman
People most likely save more fuel than you and have to refuel less time in pits. I never drive on 1 fuel all the time, in corners I go to lean 3 or 4 and on straights back to 1 or 2. You can save lots of fuel like this and your pit stops will be much shorter.
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I save fuel, that I earlier gear shifting (Gr.3 porsche)
 
BSDShoes
Your pit box might be on the very end of the pit lane if they're just standing there waiting for your car.
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Yes, but a pit crew stood still while your car is stationary IN the box, BEFORE they’ve changed tyres or put fuel in, surely shouldn’t happen?
 
This happened to me yesterday. The car was there, stationary for a few seconds with the pit guys just stood frozen before doing anything
 
Tassie_tiger
It seems unlikely every time this happened there was an impending penalty.
Short shifting is your friend. 👍
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1. You are implying that penalties are "served" automatically during the stop!? (i.e. just added to the standing time)
2. Is there any empirical data on short shift vs fuel mix?
 
This happened to me. The pit crew just stare at my car for 1-2 secs. The fix is to enter the pit lane under 80 ish kph. Dunno the exact limit but I thinks it’s the game's way of telling you that you entered the pits too quickly, by giving you a penalty
 
I had a pit stop yesterday where I felt like the crew was idle for a bit before they did anything. It would be interesting if someone did some analysis on this. I wonder if there's a random element to it to keep races interesting.

Secondly I kind of wish you could get an indicator of where your car is in the pit lane, on some tracks it takes a long time for your car to arrive.

Also you guys know that you don't have to actually calculate how much fuel you need right? There's a little diamond indicator over the fuel bar that shows you exactly how much you need to finish the race.
 

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